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[KaiserShep]

ULT1M4T3xPL wrote...

Seriously, am I the only one around here that wonders why the hell the Asari didn't know about the Reapers?

I mean, they were using the beacon for thousands of years. Are you saying they never bothered to ask what happened to the Protheans? The VI had all the information about the Crucible - shouldn't it like, I don't know, warn them about the harvest?

The way I see it, there are 3 explanations:
1) Bad writing
2) Asari Goverment consists of useless idiots who ignored the biggest threat in history
3) (Insert crazy conspiracy theory about Asari going into stasis so they have 50000 years to prepare for the next cycle)

So yeah, can't say I felt sorry for them in ME3

Thoughts?

I'd chance a guess that the Asari did not really know about the reapers all this time, because the story was made up as it went along, and in ME1 and perhaps 2, the beacon on Thessia simply did not exist yet. 

Edit: The cipher was still a requirement.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 16 juillet 2013 - 11:14 .

[KaiserShep]

Barquiel wrote...

This is addressed multiple times in the game. To use the beacon, you need to be a prothean, or at least have the cipher. The asari couldn't activate the beacon.

Liara: I've studied Protheans my entire life. If I'd been shown the beacon on Thessia earlier...
EDI: You would have needed Shepard's cipher to comprehend it.

I totally forgot about this. 

[Foolsfolly]

SinerAthin wrote...

I believe that the main reason why the player so often did not care was because the player never got a chance to establish any emotional connections to the planet in the Mass Effect series.

If we're being serious (why are we being serious) this is true.

The most we see of any of the homeworlds are the ones that look like stretches of desert. We're supposed to care about earth just because it's our own planet and we're supposed to care about other planets despite the fact that we've never stepped foot on any of them.

Had they had the foresight ME1 and ME2 would have set up those planets and then we'd see them fall and feel something. Hell, no one Shepard even knows is on Palaven or Thessia or Sur'Kesh. Everyone we've ever met is on other planets.

It's one of the reasons Tuchanka and Rannoch work better. We know the people and places from years before the plot brought us back to them.

[David7204]

I doubt that.

I wouldn't have included content on the homeworlds before ME 3.

[Foolsfolly]

David7204 wrote...

I doubt that.

I wouldn't have included content on the homeworlds before ME 3.

Why not?

ME1 had us traveling around in the backwoods of the galaxy. The Citadel was the only place we went that had a population larger than Rhode Island. ME2 gave us Ilium which for all intents and purposes could have easily been Thessia.

It would have been nice to go places and see great places... and then hurt to see those places and people fall to the Reapers.

Instead nowhere we've ever been falls to the Reapers. Think of seeing side characters from Ilium or Omega or the Citadel fighting for their lives as everything got turned upside down in the face of an intergalatic threat wiping out all civilization.

It would hurt to play that game. Instead they expect us to have empathy for a place that's just one level full of nameless NPCs (or in Palavan's case not even that).

[KaiserShep]

This is why the Citadel is the most meaningful place we ever see attacked. For however senseless the Cerberus coup attempt may seem, it somehow has greater effect simply because it's a familiar place that is now a combat zone. With Earth, nothing is particularly recognizable. We know it's Earth, but it lacks life. At least with Illium, it's a bustling city with lots of traffic in the background. It's just too bad we don't get to see the effect of the reapers. Wherever we are on Earth just looks clean and empty. To be fair though, it IS in Canada.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 16 juillet 2013 - 11:37 .

[Armass81]

Asari enjoyed the status quo a little too much.

[Foolsfolly]

KaiserShep wrote...

This is why the Citadel is the most meaningful place we ever see attacked. For however senseless the Cerberus coup attempt may seem, it somehow has greater effect simply because it's a familiar place that is now a combat zone. With Earth, nothing is particularly recognizable. We know it's Earth, but it lacks life. At least with Illium, it's a bustling city with lots of traffic in the background. It's just too bad we don't get to see the effect of the reapers. Wherever we are on Earth just looks clean and empty. To be fair though, it IS in Canada.

I didn't even know it was Vancouver until the Normandy broke atmo and I saw the Pacific ocean. I mean for the city that has to stand in for "The Earth City" man it was underwhelming. It may have been Bekkenstein for all the hell that placed looked familiar.

[HellbirdIV]

Han Shot First wrote...

I fully support a fvck Tevos option as well.

During the scene in her office in ME3 she gives Shepard that look. You know the one.

Asari are probably just naturally drawn to redheads.

[spirosz]

HellbirdIV wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

I fully support a fvck Tevos option as well.

During the scene in her office in ME3 she gives Shepard that look. You know the one.

Asari are probably just naturally drawn to redheads.

Asari wished they were like Jack. 

[spirosz]

StreetMagic wrote...

Tevos was dead long ago. She doesn't like redheads.. or anyone else.

Who Liara?  She can fond of anyone, before, currently or after Shepard.  

[Barquiel]

HellbirdIV wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

I fully support a fvck Tevos option as well.

During the scene in her office in ME3 she gives Shepard that look. You know the one.

Asari are probably just naturally drawn to redheads.

I noticed that too, but I already ship her with Aria

[Slayer299]

It was sad to see Thessia fall to the Reapers, but there was no more emotional connection to it than there was to seeing Earth fall when the game began. Having the coup by Cerberus (and that was totally derp), much less the Reapers taking the Citadel meant more than either Earth or Thessia. And that is because we didn't know either of them one iota, what city were we in when ME3 began and why should I care? The same went for Thessia, it was important because of the beacon, to Liara (*if* you were romancing her and *didn't* hate her guts) and that's it.

If they gave us time to actually spend time on either, such as having Thessia as a hub world as some point before people here might actually care more and stop being happy over the Asari getting slaughtered (although there seems to be a correlation with those that hate the Quarians just as vehemently over their political leadership as well and getting happies over the Geth wiping them out.)

[o Ventus]

David7204 wrote...

The asari did not 'fail' for not building a bajillion dreadnoughts because Shepard says so.

...

What?

[HellbirdIV]

Barquiel wrote...

HellbirdIV wrote...

During the scene in her office in ME3 she gives Shepard that look. You know the one.

Asari are probably just naturally drawn to redheads.

I noticed that too, but I already ship her with Aria

Why? Aria is disgusting.