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[legion ME3]

 OK so it shows most people choose the Geth the 2nd most chosen was peace between both and the least was The Quarians where choose the least. I choose peace because I see it as they best way finally the Quarians get to live on rannoch again and the geth become individuals and have feelings and emotion. Also you get both as war assests and it equals up to 1000. Lastly because killing legion makes me feel like a dick he was one of my favorite squad members and tali killing herself is upsetting I romanced Tali and she seemed so happy about getting a home world and trusts Shepard a lot also a dick move to and even more of a dick move if you romance tali Shep tells her he will make her a house on rannoch and when you get back on the normandy after choosing the geth everyone is upset with your choice Garrus is sad,  Joker is upset, Ashley cries over tali's death, Liara is somewhat emotionless, and Javik is just pretty pissed if you choose the geth.

[Erez Kristal]

Most people went for peace by bioware statistics, thats not really a choice.
You should open a geth-quarrian thread. we had a 40 pages of that one not long back http://social.biowar.../index/16761029

Modifié par erezike, 16 juillet 2013 - 05:44 .

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Yeah see the thread. I plugged Legion on my last run, though, for the lolz.

[Excella Gionne]

erezike wrote...

Most people went for peace by bioware statistics, thats not really a choice.
You should open a geth-quarrian thread. we had a 40 pages of that one not long back http://social.biowar.../index/16761029

Hahaha! Yeah, I remember that thread. That thread ws full of ideas from both sides and the one's in the middle. The Geth-Quarian threads can start small, but they can really out of control, hence, the fire on the thread.

To the O.P.: It's mainly based on a moral choice on how you judge the Quarians and the Geth & Legion. I would love to list my opinion on Legion's stand point and the Geth's based on the Quarian's decision, but I am so tired of doing that. Hahaha... I usually just pick peace between Geth & Quarians by choosing the INTIMIDATION dialogue: [Warn the fleet]. It's way much better in Renegade.

[Anubis722]

*Sigh* just to let you know OP this thread will be turn into a another Quarian vs Geth thread. just giving you a little bit of warning, anyway

Canon-Quarians
AU-Peace

[DeinonSlayer]

God, another one?

I ignore that stat. 92% of players cure the genophage, despite 64% having Wreav (who vows bloody retribution on the galaxy after the cure) instead of Wrex. What that tells me is that those stats are polluted by newbies mindlessly clicking the top of the wheel every single time - peace is impossible in non-import playthroughs (the 64% figure is a good indicator of how many playthroughs were non-imports), and regardless of the situation (Wrex-Wreav, Tali-Raan, Legion-SoullessKillbot), the pro-Krogan and pro-Geth options are always at the top of the wheel.

Each of my playthroughs had a different combination of factors contributing to the situation. I roleplayed each character in accordance with the personalities I came up with for them.

Playthrough 1 (Nolan): Colonist/Ruthless/Paragade.
Genophage: Wrex survived/Eve survived, did not reveal sabotage, cured after tense discussion.
Rachni: Released the queen in ME1. Abandoned the queen in ME3 (too much risk of indoctrination).
Rannoch: Tali survived (romance)/Legion died on suicide mission. Emptied a clip into the Geth VI.

Playthrough 2 (Jane): Spacer/Ruthless/Renegon
Genophage: Wreav present/Eve died, did not reveal sabotage, talked Mordin down.
Rachni: Import from ME2 - original queen dead. Recruited the Rachni Breeder as a foil to Wreav. Backfired.
Rannoch: Tali survived/Legion survived. Made peace.

You get the picture.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 16 juillet 2013 - 06:10 .

[Nole]

On my first and canon playthrough, I sold the geth to Cerberus, so no peace for me, and I obviously chose the Quarians.

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

 blow up the synthetic noobs.Geth are traitors and deserve a traitor's death.

Synthetics don't "die" tho.

Modifié par IntelligentME3Fanboy, 16 juillet 2013 - 06:13 .

[Barquiel]

On my first ("canon") playthrough I couldn't make peace between the Quarians and Geth (I didn't recruit Tali in ME2), and I sided with the Geth. The Quarians were the clear aggressors in this conflict. On my second playthrough I sided with the Quarians and my third Shepard went for peace.

Modifié par Barquiel, 16 juillet 2013 - 06:17 .

[Bfler]

Peace. Always the best solution.

[Zazzerka]

Peace because of the bro Geth Prime.

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

Bfler wrote...

Peace. Always the best solution.

Peace is boring.Everyone lives happily after lol.It's also unrealistic

[Jadebaby]

I destroyed them so when I got to the ending and met the catalyst, it all made total sense... I regret doing it though, since they would have made great friends in a synthesized galaxy.

[GimmeDaGun]

1. "The Shepard" who's closest to my vision as canon and closest to me personally (certainly not identical or resembling me) is Robert - yeah that's my first name- Shepard: Earth born, sole survivor, engineer, a smart but scarred and gritty, down to Earth, sceptical Roman Catholic guy with a kind and caring heart under his protective shell. A devoted Alliance loyalist (he treats it as his own family and Anderson as his father, in Ashley he finds a kindred spirit and slowly falls in love with her), and an enemy of Cerberus. Spared the Rachni, sacraficed the original Council in order to destroy Sovreign and save the Citadel, destroyed the Collectors' base of operation, cured the Genophage. Not hostile towards them, but highly sceptical about AIs and machines. Morally a paragade. He did not let Legion to upload the enemy's' code to the Geth Concensus. He found it way too risky and dangerous, nor did he fully trust Legion and its motives. He did this despite he could have bartered truce between the two sides. Eventually he desroyed the Reapers.

2 Axel Shepard. Born on a colony, butcher of Torfan, a professional, cold and calculating black ops infiltrator with an "the end justifies the means" attitude. Has quite materialistic views and mostly a renegade character who does not fully trust anyone, but with a good load of paragon decisions also. Always had trust issues and was never really good at being in a relationship: usually he just uses the women who are attracted to him for short term sexual pleasure gain, so he behaves accordingly. He did not really care for either group but took the risk and bartered peace between the Geth and the Quarians since he needed as many troops and ships for the goal as possible. It was a leap of faith, but the situation was dire. In the end he decided to end the conflict with the Reapers by taking control over the Intelligence in order to watch over the Galaxy and maintain order and peace by his means and standards (but did he?).

3. Angel Shepard: spacer, hero of Elysium, engineer, a very intelligent and diplomatic idealist person with a rich upbringing and New Age type of views. Him being a gay person, he builds up a romantic relationship with Cortez. Mostly paragon who believes that artificial life is just as alive as organics and deserves a chance for a peaceful life among the others. To him it was a no brainer to barter peace between the two "species". In the end he realised the sad truth about the Reapers and understood that the only way to resolve all the suffering of past, present and future generations and civilizations is to embrace the Intelligence's idea by sacraficing himself in order to forge eternal peace in the Galaxy by Synthesis.

I'm yet to play a character who destroys the Quarians, but I have to plan that guy out carefully. I will need a total anti-hero feel guy with believable motivations. I'm also thinking about doing a playthrough which ends by refusing the use of the Crucible.

So it all depends on the character I roleplay. This is part of why I like this series, though I haven't played it for a while nor I plan to do so for some time, since after 4 playthroughs (total trilogy runs) it has become a bit boring for me. 

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 16 juillet 2013 - 07:00 .

[HellbirdIV]

Original playthrough;

Legion died in the Suicide Mission, so I had no option for peace.

The quarians were dicks. Colossal, major uber-dicks for the entire duration of the Rannoch arc, plus all the crap they pulled in ME2.

The geth were not innocent - they turned to the Reapers in desperation - but, with the Reaper upgrades, they were sapient individuals. Billions, possibly trillions of souls.

Billions of geth versus a few million quarians? Statistics favour the geth.

Who has the better fleet for the war against the Reapers? The quarians have many small and pathetic ships that are horribly outdated and never made for war. The geth have an even larger fleet than the quarians - the only species that does - of highly advanced multivector warships with literally no other purpose than combat.

The Geth don't need resources. They don't need food and medicine. They have ground combat platforms like Juggernauts, Primes and Colossi. As the invasion of asari and salarian space showed, small teams of commandos aren't very useful against the Reapers - and small commando teams are the only good infantry units the quarians have.

And, finally, this:

The quarians chose to start this war while the rest of the galaxy was besieged by the Reapers. They knew the galaxy needed their help. They knew Rannoch would be destroyed by the Reapers even if they had succeeded in taking it. But they didn't care. They were so obsessed with revenge on the geth and taking back their planet that they ignored trillions of people dying elsewhere in the galaxy, just to benefit themselves.

If they were willing to let the galaxy burn to save themselves, then they don't deserve my help. Their deaths were well-deserved and ultimately their own doing, not mine.

In the end I had to destroy the Geth as well - and EDI, and whatever else - to save the galaxy. It's what they wanted, though. Fight the Reapers - to the death.

[DeinonSlayer]

The closest I've come to destroying the Quarians was my paragade FemShep engineer, Laura. I headcanon that she's the sister of my canon MaleShep, Nolan, who in this universe was killed on Mindoir, whereas in his universe, he survived and she was taken by the Batarians. Nolan (Colonist/Ruthless) is wracked by guilt over having failed to protect her - it was always her dream to join the Alliance; he was content to stay where he was.

In her universe (Colonist/Sole Survivor), however, she isn't the glowing paragon of humanity Nolan imagined she would have been. She could never let Mindoir go, vowing to never let it happen again. She's with Cerberus. She was ALWAYS with Cerberus, all through the events of ME1. Not a bad person, per se - she is happy to help members of other species (pilgrimage data, Saleon, etc) so long as it doesn't conflict with human interests.

It's an interesting character to roleplay. For instance, she released the Rachni Queen intending for Cerberus to capture her (explains the Cerberus-Rachni missions which follow - they failed to contain her after capture), intentionally failed Thane's loyalty mission, allowing Kolyat to kill the anti-human politician. Left David with Overlord (starts having doubts in Cerberus here - never saw the Kahoku missions in ME1, only the Rachni-Cerberus ones), Tali exiled (discouraged war, but supported Xen before finding Legion), rewrote the heretics, seeing them as potential cannon fodder (sided with Legion in the loyalty conflict, then brought Tali back on board).

Things got heated come ME3. What's a Shepard to do who doesn't view synthetics as alive (unlike some of my other Shepards, including Nolan) when forced to choose between what she sees as millions of innocent people and a big, nasty Geth fleet to throw at the Reapers? I went with the former, because this same Shep lost her nerve when it came down to shooting Mordin (Wreav/Eve) and didn't trust Reaper tech after Cerberus got indoctrinated, but you can see where such conflicts can be interesting.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 16 juillet 2013 - 07:26 .

[teh DRUMPf!!]

Peace.

'Best interests in the galaxy.

I can't choose the geth, not with Shepard standing around like an idiot not even trying to stop the quarians.

[Necrotya]

Peace bro

[ShepnTali]

Peace everytime.

[KaiserShep]

Peace. Of course, if peace was not an option, I'd simply pick the Quarians.

[Kataphrut94]

I lucked out getting peace on my first playthrough and have gone after it every time since then. Now, I'm hoping to do a run where peace is impossible and see how things go when I have to actually choose.

I'm probably going to go with geth because they are clearly the wronged party in this war. That said, I believe the game gives you crap from everyone for doing that, so we'll see if I still have the heart when the time comes.

[DeinonSlayer]

Kataphrut94 wrote...

I lucked out getting peace on my first playthrough and have gone after it every time since then. Now, I'm hoping to do a run where peace is impossible and see how things go when I have to actually choose.

I'm probably going to go with geth because they are clearly the wronged party in this war. That said, I believe the game gives you crap from everyone for doing that, so we'll see if I still have the heart when the time comes.

Both sides were wronged. Legion's slideshow conspicuously leaves out the events between "the Geth start defending themselves" and "billions of Quarians are dead." There's no mention of Geth isolationism in ME3, and barely any of the Heretics.

There's a good amount of gray to the whole issue; the writers unfortunately were a bit heavy-handed trying to generate sympathy for the Geth in the final installment. I honestly think that was done to disincentivize people from picking Destroy - the choice to shoot the tube is relatively easy if the Geth already died above Rannoch.

[Jonathan Seagull]

In my "canon" playthrough (which was the first), Shepard made peace. He was friends with both Legion and Tali, and was the diplomatic sort, so it worked out well.

In my second run, my Shepard was more aggressive but very pro-alien and had a soft spot for Tali. She was also wary of AIs and Legion died during the collector base attack, so she supported the Quarians (or more accurately, did not support the Geth) and killed the Geth VI when it attacked her.

Third Shepard was very distrustful of aliens but had a slight interest in technology. Never saw Tali again after Haestrom and gave Legion to Cerberus. When it came time to choose, he didn't necessarily care that much about "Geth rights," but still felt that they would make stronger allies. And yes, his girlfriend Ashley was pissed.