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[FlamingBoy]

Eamon696 wrote...

Demon Velsper wrote...

Funny, I could have sworn they said the exact same thing about Dragon Age 2.

And they said the same thing during Mass Effect 2, whats your point?

Every developer say this about their games.  Its about getting the most sales as possible.

Thats the problem, there is no love for the product, only the money they can generate.

A product must be more than simple monetary value and to create a game that is "broadly appealing" (quickly becoming my least favorite words in the industry) is not the way to do that.

Yes games need to make money, however if the games exists for the sole purpose of making money (or making as many sales as possible) The product has no value.

I was watching an interesting video which discusses the change in philosophy in the games industry, to summarize.
     "Developers used to make money to make games, now they make games in order to make money".
and thats the problem.

[NS Wizdum]

Bioware needs to watch this:
http://www.escapistm...-Fun-Priorities

Stop trying to make games "appeal to a wider audience". Make them for a specific audience, and make them fun.

[levyjl1988]

Also like Dragon Age 2 they should give players the ability to change the protagonist's facial features, respec, change classes at any time throughout the game if they are not satisfied.

In Skyrim if players weren't happy with the character's facial appearance they can can change it. The same can be done in Fallout 3, Dragon's Dogma, Saints Row the 3rd. So why not Mass Effect?

[Han Shot First]

Meh. That's just marketing speak.

Has there ever been a game series in existence that hasn't had devs claim the latest sequel would appeal to both fans and newcomers? The same thing was said about Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3, and if there is ever an ME5 or ME6, you'll hear it said about them as well.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 21 juillet 2013 - 03:41 .

[AlanC9]

It'd be awfully stupid to tell 1/2-1/3 of the potential customers that the game won't appeal to them

Modifié par AlanC9, 21 juillet 2013 - 06:58 .

[Han Shot First]

AlanC9 wrote...

It'd be awfully stupid to tell 1/2-1/3 of the potential customers that the game won't appeal to them

Pretty much.

"We're making this game for diehard fans. If you've never played a Mass Effect game before, ****** off!"

That doesn't exactly make for a good business strategy.

[Iakus]

Han Shot First wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

It'd be awfully stupid to tell 1/2-1/3 of the potential customers that the game won't appeal to them

Pretty much.

"We're making this game for diehard fans. If you've never played a Mass Effect game before, ****** off!"

That doesn't exactly make for a good business strategy.

Yeah.  Much better to wait until they have the cash in hand before saying "Sucks to be you"

You know, like with fans in ME3 

[AlanC9]

Heh. Yep, getting the order right is key.

[ME859]

iakus wrote...

And Mass Effect 3 was "The best place to start"

Gonna take a lot more than that to convince me.

I miss being able to take everything at face value.  It's gotten to the point where I'm just happy they didn't say "Next Mass Effect will appeal to Call of Duty fans."  Though I do expect that quote to show up sometime before release which never makes sense.  COD fans don't pay attention and existing fans get frustrated.

[KotorEffect3]

iakus wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

It'd be awfully stupid to tell 1/2-1/3 of the potential customers that the game won't appeal to them

Pretty much.

"We're making this game for diehard fans. If you've never played a Mass Effect game before, ****** off!"

That doesn't exactly make for a good business strategy.

Yeah.  Much better to wait until they have the cash in hand before saying "Sucks to be you"

You know, like with fans in ME3 

You don't speak for all fans.  Many of us were happy with ME 3

[shingara]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

iakus wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

It'd be awfully stupid to tell 1/2-1/3 of the potential customers that the game won't appeal to them

Pretty much.

"We're making this game for diehard fans. If you've never played a Mass Effect game before, ****** off!"

That doesn't exactly make for a good business strategy.

Yeah.  Much better to wait until they have the cash in hand before saying "Sucks to be you"

You know, like with fans in ME3 

You don't speak for all fans.  Many of us were happy with ME 3

 Dito, i love ME3. That said i want the new mass effect to be new and fresh and not play any of the crew. That may sound off to some people but i dont wanna know how the new branch of mass effect games will finish. Within the crew minus a few we know where they end if they plant us within a time period between 1-3 giving very few avenues that any new ME game can go forwards upon.

 And without shepard in the picture whilst retaining the universe that in my eyes requires going way forward in the timeline to create a new story that can be built upon without destroying cannon that is set in place right now. If they want to give us a chance to play garrus etc then do it as a dlc for 2 or 3 not as a main game for 4.

 And tobe fair to let us play as one of the crew without us knowing shep can only be done within the 2 years they were that tiny bit dead.

Modifié par shingara, 22 juillet 2013 - 05:34 .

[Iakus]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

iakus wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

It'd be awfully stupid to tell 1/2-1/3 of the potential customers that the game won't appeal to them

Pretty much.

"We're making this game for diehard fans. If you've never played a Mass Effect game before, ****** off!"

That doesn't exactly make for a good business strategy.

Yeah.  Much better to wait until they have the cash in hand before saying "Sucks to be you"

You know, like with fans in ME3 

You don't speak for all fans.  Many of us were happy with ME 3

And you don't speak for all fans either.

So put the tape measure away.

[Cainhurst Crow]

There's nothing in this article that's new for mass effect, other than the old team from kotor is working on the new IP, which is awesome news.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

iakus wrote...

And Mass Effect 3 was "The best place to start"

Gonna take a lot more than that to convince me.

Read the topic title and this was exactly my first thought even before I entered the topic.


Good to know I don't stand alone with that level of scepticism.

That's a very long strech to be honest. I mean, what should he have said.

"The next mass effect will be absolutelty inacessable to new fans. In fact, the games being coded so that unless you have mass effect saves to import, you won't even be able to play a new game."

Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 22 juillet 2013 - 11:55 .

[shingara]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

iakus wrote...

And Mass Effect 3 was "The best place to start"

Gonna take a lot more than that to convince me.

Read the topic title and this was exactly my first thought even before I entered the topic.


Good to know I don't stand alone with that level of scepticism.

That's a very long strech to be honest. I mean, what should he have said.

"The next mass effect will be absolutelty inacessable to new fans. In fact, the games being coded so that unless you have mass effect saves to import, you won't even be able to play a new game."

I take it on the other angle, saves will be able to be imported and it wont require an ultra fresh start so its friendly to old players aswell as new players. This wont impact upon new players but it will allow old players to bring bonus's and bonus elements into the new title.

Modifié par shingara, 23 juillet 2013 - 12:02 .

[B.Shep]

Morocco Mole wrote...

I doubt there is going to be a save import feature in Mass Effect 4.

At least not from previous games.

[shingara]

B.Shep wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

I doubt there is going to be a save import feature in Mass Effect 4.

At least not from previous games.

 Id be happy with an import into a new era just to have sophie and the fish.

[Cainhurst Crow]

But yanik didn't say mass effect NG was the best place to start, for starters. He said it would be friendly to both old and new fans, big freaking difference there. We are not talking about the best place to start for new players, that doesn't have anything to do with this conversation. Stop dragging up old things that this person didn't say or do like some vindictive **** and discuss the actual topic at hand for a change.

[ShaggyWolf]

iakus wrote...

I just hope by newcomers, they mean "WIll have zero connection with the original trilogy outside general setting"

Same here. They botched the original trilogy so bad with ME3, the best thing they could do is write a new story that basically forgets it ever happened. Imo.

[stonbw1]

shingara wrote...

B.Shep wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

I doubt there is going to be a save import feature in Mass Effect 4.

At least not from previous games.

 Id be happy with an import into a new era just to have sophie and the fish.

You know, I hope the connection with ME 1-3 is de minimis.  I'm happy leaving my ME1-3 experience as a great memory and start something fresh.  Granted, I'd be excited to see a familiar face or planet in ME5 and beyond, but not every 3 hours of gameplay.    If I get more than one or two instances of familiarity in ME4, I'll be unhappy and will know its just a franchise play.