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The Warden and Hawke's disappearance needs to be resolved [And do you think they should appear?]


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#51
Urazz

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They better not make the inquisitor disappear as well unless we find out why the major heroes are disappearing beforehand.

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Felya87

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I would love to see again my warden. sadly, with how now appear Elf, I'm terryfied!!!

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You know the game KOTOR 2 where the Jedi Exile and Atton talk about whatever happened to Revan and what he did and what happened and then it was established as such?

Just do that. Its that simple.

Modifié par Vit246, 16 juillet 2013 - 10:15 .


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Angrywolves

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But who in DAO and DA2 would know that ?

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Nobody "knows" that.

They heard rumors from a friend who heard from a friend who heard from a friend.

Example. Atton called Revan a woman. The Exile can either agree or "correct" Atton and then it was established as such.

The Exile can claim rumors that Revan saved the Republic or sided against the Republic and then it was established as such.

Modifié par Vit246, 16 juillet 2013 - 10:47 .


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This is why you always do the ultimate sacrifice, lol.


Seriously, if ANY game gives you the option to die at the end of the game, always take it. It's the ultimate form of closure, and the developers can't **** with your character.

My Warden was in a romance with Morrigan and he still rejected the ritual, haha.

Hawke though, at least my own Hawke, I imagine is dead. She started the rebellion with ruthless prescision, and I imagine her and Anders (who she also romanced) would be the number one target for Templars.


But yeah, I can really see Bioware canon killing both the Warden and Hawke; it's the simplest solution. The Warden probably needs to go on their calling soon anyway (I swear I read that excessive Darkspawn taint accelerates the degeneration massively, and the Warden if alive *killed* an Old God. That **** is gunna be faster than a hobo with a dog), so the Warden is actually quite easy to canon kill. Hawke though, is trickier, but again... it just makes the most sense from a writing point of view.

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The Baconer wrote...

I hope the Warden is confirmed dead in DA:I.


And I hope Hawke's mutilated body is found with a pike shoved up his backside. <_<

#58
ames4u

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I can guess why they vanished; they saw the script for DAI and decided that vanishing into obscurity was preferable to being involved in whatever 'plot' that contains. Hey, at least its logical.

In fact, I think I may even try drawing this for deviantart. :P

Ignoring that, the problem is, the Warden and Hawke would not simply 'vanish'
without their LI in tow. If the Warden chose not to go through The Looking Glass,
they would be out hunting for whoever the eff is meddling with world events and would
at the very least send word to their LI as to what they are doing or to at least let them know
they are alive and kicking. Unless of course they are the Ultimate Sacrifice type
in which case it doesn't matter.

I can understand why, say, Leliana and Zevran wouldn't recieve word; they are
doing their own sneaking about so hunting them down to give them a letter wouldn't
be so easy.

Hawke is clearly fine because his/her @ss is plot proof. :pinched:

But I just do not see there being an easy resolution to this. If Bioware decides
to kill them off arbitrarily then there'll be a huge backlash. Ignore them, and people
will question why they are not shown or given a proper explanation as to what they
are doing and why. Either way they're kind of screwed.

Modifié par ames4u, 16 juillet 2013 - 11:13 .


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Considering the fact that I played as a Mage in DA-Origins, the Warden and Hawke are related, so I'm curious to see what BioWare is going to do with the storylines... If anything.

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Once my cannon-Warden heard that Anders blew up the the Kirkwall Chantry and started a war, she would blame herself for it - since she freed Anders from the circle and introduced him to Justice. So similar to how she felt she needed to track down Morrigan and get some closure on the god-baby, she would also feel a need to track down Anders and make sure she didn't completely ruin his life/kill him to protect the world from a monster she created. So unless she retired to some tropical island and has no idea what happened, which she wouldn't have done if Alistair shows up in DA:I at all, I want a reason as to why she would stay at the sidelines.

My Hawke and Anders, meanwhile, ran off into the sunset to be revolutionary fugitives together. Having started the mage/templar war, I don't see why they would just disappear and not continue the fight.

I think if Bioware didn't have Leliana and Cassandra specifically talk about how they both are mysteriously gone, people would be less interested in needing an explanation from bioware. But since they called out their disappearance, they brought attention to it, and made people start thinking it was some cool important thing. If Bioware didn't have an answer in mind that they sometime plan to reveal to us, they shouldn't have brought people's attention to it like they did.

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I don't really need to see the Warden or Hawke, but some clarification would be nice in certain circumstances. For example, the Warden in my profile pic went through the Eluvian with Morrigan, but now that she's living in/commuting to Thedas, I'd be disappointed if there was zero reference.
Like if Morrigan's role is to show up from time to time and give the Inquisitor quests, she could say something like: "It was pleasant chatting with you, Inquisitor, but I must now return home. My love and my son have been alone with each other for hours, and I dare not think of the mischief they've gotten up to."

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Northern Sun wrote...

I don't really need to see the Warden or Hawke, but some clarification would be nice in certain circumstances. For example, the Warden in my profile pic went through the Eluvian with Morrigan, but now that she's living in/commuting to Thedas, I'd be disappointed if there was zero reference.
Like if Morrigan's role is to show up from time to time and give the Inquisitor quests, she could say something like: "It was pleasant chatting with you, Inquisitor, but I must now return home. My love and my son have been alone with each other for hours, and I dare not think of the mischief they've gotten up to."


Oh, I like that...that would be great. Image IPB Just tossing us a little bone like that would be pretty cool.

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Spaghetti_Ninja wrote...


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Direwolf0294

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Well, my Warden's dead, and as for Hawke, I don't want BioWare anywhere near her. I don't want her in the game, I don't even want her mentioned. At the moment I can have my own head canon for what happened to her, and I don't want BioWare coming in and screwing that up. Just look at what they did with Revan and and the Exile in TOR to know it's a bad idea to give BioWare complete control over former PCs.

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There building an Army. The Warden heard about Hawke and found him/her and they began to plan to build an army of the greatest heroes of Thedas. DA10 will come and you will have the entire party camp be of all the past heroes. You will choose which one you want to play as as the MC for the mission then your party.

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TristanHawke wrote...

Secretlyapotato wrote...

Leliana is just being dramatic. It's totally a coincidence ;D

Honestly I haven't though about it much, I just expect them to be dead.


But why would Bioware just kill our characters off? Wouldn't that be in bad taste?


U played ME3 right?

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TheInquisitor

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Shya wrote...

TristanHawke wrote...

Secretlyapotato wrote...

Leliana is just being dramatic. It's totally a coincidence ;D

Honestly I haven't though about it much, I just expect them to be dead.


But why would Bioware just kill our characters off? Wouldn't that be in bad taste?


U played ME3 right?


That is totally different. If we played through a story where they got killed off I'd be fine with that. But just saying they disappeared and then killing them off makes me feel like it's just an excuse because they can't import their appearance.

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When Leiliana said "This cannot be a coincidence," she was just being stupid and it was totally a coincidence. The Warden Commander is off somewhere remote fighting Darkspawn because that's his/her job and Hawke ran as far away from Kirkwall and his/her stupid companions as you can get because...well, have you seen Kirkwall?

There. Disappearances resolved.

Modifié par Twisted Path, 17 juillet 2013 - 05:17 .


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Urazz wrote...

They better not make the inquisitor disappear as well unless we find out why the major heroes are disappearing beforehand.


It could be a new Bioware cliche - heroes of past games will always disappear in sequels. At least in DA series. 

Modifié par Star fury, 17 juillet 2013 - 06:22 .


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Adding a mysterious disappearance to Hawke's ending is understandable, as he/she was left with a nebulous "..." climax left unresolved via the cancelled expansion, but to also involve the Warden seems to indicate that Bioware has greater plans. I trust 'em not to leave it open-ended, but I hope it's not going to be at the expense of our previous PCs lives (aka they die off-screen).

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 I'm 99% sure that we won't be seeing our warden or hawke anymore (alive, anyway), and for the simple fact that is this:

the game will take place a bunch of years in the future. If they were to be seen again, they would need to import our wardens and hawkes, and make them look older. And since this will be very hard to do with customised player-faces, and in no way will please people, as they would have imagined their older versions of their warden/hawkes differently, I doubt they'd go down that road.
Also, they'd have to give them a personality, which isn't your own. it wouldn't work.

I'm expecting an explanation for their dissapearance, and maybe some tale about it from companions you had in previous games, but I'm not expecting the actual character.

don't hold your breath.

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^from my understanding, the game takes place following Asunder...roughly a year or so after DA2. You can simply look at Cassandra, Morrigan and Varric to prove this point - none of them look markedly older, really. What makes you think it's "a bunch of years in the future"?

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Tootles FTW wrote...

^from my understanding, the game takes place following Asunder...roughly a year or so after DA2. You can simply look at Cassandra, Morrigan and Varric to prove this point - none of them look markedly older, really. What makes you think it's "a bunch of years in the future"?


Yeah if Morrigan is still sexy, you can bet your ass my Warden is!

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Simple.

Make up something. That because of the constant exposure to Darkspawn and the Archdemon, the Grey Warden's body has slowed down immensely. She can still eat, work, have sex, be active, etc., but her body is no longer able endure combat.

Boom. No need to "disappear" or bring the Warden back.

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ames4u wrote...

The Baconer wrote...

I hope the Warden is confirmed dead in DA:I.


And I hope Hawke's mutilated body is found with a pike shoved up his backside. <_<


Sounds good.