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The Warden and Hawke's disappearance needs to be resolved [And do you think they should appear?]


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Nightdragon8

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I'm pretty sure they will explain why they went missing... otherwise they know they will get TONS of angry fans on BSN comlpaining that they said they where missing and it wasn't resloved.

Also no, I don't want to see my Warden or Hawk again, because unless its story related I don't care. Being told what happen is fine by me. Also considering the fact that we are jumping to a new engine do we really want another ME3 importer incident again??

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I don't anything will be resolved.

Looking at it the Warden and Hawke have nothing to do with Dragon Age 3.

To me Dragon Age 3 looks like a sequel to the Witch Hunt DLC for Orgins

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johnj1979 wrote...

I don't anything will be resolved.

Looking at it the Warden and Hawke have nothing to do with Dragon Age 3.

To me Dragon Age 3 looks like a sequel to the Witch Hunt DLC for Orgins


The Warden played a major part in Witch Hunt. So if it's a sequel to that, how is he nothing to do with it?

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TristanHawke wrote...

johnj1979 wrote...

I don't anything will be resolved.

Looking at it the Warden and Hawke have nothing to do with Dragon Age 3.

To me Dragon Age 3 looks like a sequel to the Witch Hunt DLC for Orgins


The Warden played a major part in Witch Hunt. So if it's a sequel to that, how is he nothing to do with it?


lol got you there

either 1 of a few things will happen, it gets resolved, considering it was the ending words of the game, those words have alot of weight to them. Why do you think so many complained about ME3 oldman child ending so much. I mean the last words could easily be interpreted into saying "Buy the DLC"

Doesn't get resolved in game but on a soical media matter, tho I think if they tweet how the warden/hawke ended up BSN would be in flames.

Doesn't get resolved in game, but in books or comics. The reaction wont be as bad, but I can bet that while some people would buy it, I would bet money that the majority of people would wait for something to put up a summury of what happened.

Doesn't get resolved in game, but does in the DA series (if its going for a second season)

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I think the end of DAO/DAA, with the blight behind and the new threats behind, there wasn't much of a direction for the warden to go. It's a lot cooler to think if Morrigan was the warden's LI, that would have been the opportune time to seek her and the child out. Otherwise, it would be the time the warden would just do what I assume all wardens do. Continue to be on watch of what's to come or a less exciting role of living a normal life.

As for the ending of DA2, I don't think after what happened the warden was going to stick around. A very dark time for the warden from the time of start to finish. In reality most of us would not want to stick around after that kind of experience, with or without a LI. Of course, there was also the fact that all that had happened would have made things difficult for the champion.

I think DA1 and DA2 both ended perfectly. Because they ended things the way they did, it is easy for them to continue those stories as they see fit as well. Leaving a little mystery is always good too. Enough closure provided is good. Too much specific detailed closure that might not match your interests where you make your own decisions throughout the game can ruin it for you I think.

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johnj1979 wrote...

I don't anything will be resolved.

Looking at it the Warden and Hawke have nothing to do with Dragon Age 3.

To me Dragon Age 3 looks like a sequel to the Witch Hunt DLC for Orgins


Not everyone played the Witch Hunt DLC. Not a big endorsement to get DA3.

As for leaving mystery with your main characters, stuff and nonsense.It's ok if you do that with companions or bit characters, but you put the franchise at risk if you do that with main characters.

Modifié par Mike Smith, 18 juillet 2013 - 06:04 .


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Sorry in advance for my bad English ( I am a french speaker) but please find below my point of view:

Why Bioware finished a game with a question ... and not answer at this question when it has the opportunity to answer it?
Talking of continuity: 4 on 5 of my save holds a living Warden. When I played DAO2 I choose a Amiel Warden. When the biggest threat appears, you should to find your biggest heroes to save the World..... I want the hero of Ferelden, herald of Kirkall and the new hero in an epic adventure.

If your hero is dead. Free to you to consider your future game without the hero of Ferelden. You hate Hawk. You don't want his coming back. Free to you to kill him/her if you meet him! Let the others players to enjoy a continuity which is not your choice.

I know that the Inquisitor is the new hero but to me each characters which have appeared in the both previous game have to play a role on what Bioware seems to sell us. The fade is torn and the world runs to its disaster. The meeting of the last chance between mage and templar has caused the death of the autorities of the bigger nations of Thedas and you don't try to find someone which has the possilibity thanks to old treaties or by his reputation (true of false) to unite everybody against a dimensional invasion. Two characters which are gone in the fade and come back. At the position of the new hero, I shall run to find these two characters.

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Miltialdes wrote...


Sorry in advance for my bad English ( I am a french speaker) but please find below my point of view:

Why Bioware finished a game with a question ... and not answer at this question when it has the opportunity to answer it?
Talking of continuity: 4 on 5 of my save holds a living Warden. When I played DAO2 I choose a Amiel Warden. When the biggest threat appears, you should to find your biggest heroes to save the World..... I want the hero of Ferelden, herald of Kirkall and the new hero in an epic adventure.

If your hero is dead. Free to you to consider your future game without the hero of Ferelden. You hate Hawk. You don't want his coming back. Free to you to kill him/her if you meet him! Let the others players to enjoy a continuity which is not your choice.

I know that the Inquisitor is the new hero but to me each characters which have appeared in the both previous game have to play a role on what Bioware seems to sell us. The fade is torn and the world runs to its disaster. The meeting of the last chance between mage and templar has caused the death of the autorities of the bigger nations of Thedas and you don't try to find someone which has the possilibity thanks to old treaties or by his reputation (true of false) to unite everybody against a dimensional invasion. Two characters which are gone in the fade and come back. At the position of the new hero, I shall run to find these two characters.


I know what you mean. I mean the world is in turmoil and you expect the warden and hawke to just sit on the sidelines? I know my Warden at least would be out there trying to save as many people as he can, especially if Morrigan is involved or in danger.

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Miltialdes wrote...
 Two characters which are gone in the fade and come back. At the position of the new hero, I shall run to find these two characters.


I think that Cassandra and Leliana were already trying to do that.
They didn't manage to accomplish their goal though.

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Honestly I don't care if they ever mention the Warden or Hawke again. I have no problem with them disappearing into the sunset and never being heard from again.

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They'll appear at the end of DAI to recruit the new protangonist.

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To be honest i want the option to play as them again, but what i really dont want is that bioware decides for all of us what their fate will be.

They cannot continue to spawn other heroes in the franchise and then let the others disapear.

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Azaron Nightblade wrote...

Miltialdes wrote...
 Two characters which are gone in the fade and come back. At the position of the new hero, I shall run to find these two characters.


I think that Cassandra and Leliana were already trying to do that.
They didn't manage to accomplish their goal though.


Hmm, I recall the game and following sequel, in which two heroes disappear. It's Kotor 1 and Kotor 2.

Trust me, it didn't end well.:whistle::whistle:

Modifié par Mr Cloud, 18 juillet 2013 - 09:30 .


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TheInquisitor

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What if The Inquisitor disappears in Dragon Age 4...?

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dsl08002 wrote...

To be honest i want the option to play as them again, but what i really dont want is that bioware decides for all of us what their fate will be.

They cannot continue to spawn other heroes in the franchise and then let the others disapear.



yes they can, it's a big continent. 

The warden/hawke have made history with their actions. And unless the story has a specific demand or see them again, that's all that matters. An offhand mention of what they are up to would be nice, but I'm fine if they are not referenced at all. 

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TristanHawke wrote...

What if The Inquisitor disappears in Dragon Age 4...?

I think that's pretty much a certainty.

They disappeared because you stopped playing them.

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Personally my city elf warden is my most favorite character I've ever created and played as, she romances Zev and they travel everywhere after DA:O. but if she is somehow involved in the DAI storyline I guess I haven't much say, but other than that I would like to at least hear about what she is/was doing w/ Zev. Idc about my hawke she ran off with isabela somewhere. But I just need more closure with my warden in someway..

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HELL YES! Do I want to see them again!

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Personally I'll be happy if I see a mutilated body in the Deep Roads with a codex or something saying it's the Warden and then find a sarcastically written note outside a dragon's den from Hawke. Best closure in my opinion.

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That's the problem with sequel when is in almost the same timeline as the precedent game.
if DA2 was some decades after DAO, the Warden would have been dead by the calling, no question about why the LI is around without her, no vague reference about a nonsensical disappaerance.

...in truth, I still don't understand why the mage/templar situation had to happen so soon after the blight. couldn't whait a few more years, and have Hawke being, instead of a Fereldan refugee, the kild of a refugee? just to have more time

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Azaron Nightblade

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Mr Cloud wrote...

Hmm, I recall the game and following sequel, in which two heroes disappear. It's Kotor 1 and Kotor 2.

Trust me, it didn't end well.[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie][smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]


Mhm, I'm quite familiar with that one myself - and it was among the first things that crossed my mind after finishing DA2.

Felya87 wrote...

That's the problem with sequel when is in almost the same timeline as the precedent game.
if DA2 was some decades after DAO, the Warden would have been dead by the calling, no question about why the LI is around without her, no vague reference about a nonsensical disappaerance.

...in truth, I still don't understand why the mage/templar situation had to happen so soon after the blight. couldn't whait a few more years, and have Hawke being, instead of a Fereldan refugee, the kild of a refugee? just to have more time


Leliana would be the next Wynne. ^_^
Morrigan too, possibly, depending on how many of Flemeth's tricks she's learned so far.

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Mr Cloud wrote...
Hmm, I recall the game and following sequel, in which two heroes disappear. It's Kotor 1 and Kotor 2.

Trust me, it didn't end well.:whistle::whistle:


I see what you did there.

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The prologue for the next game is Leliana discovering that, in fact, the two disappearances can be and are a coincidence. She accomplishes this by actually asking Alistair, thus finishing his cameo in the first three minutes of the game. ;)

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Well, you know what they said about recycling some story from the Exalted March DLC? Maybe we begin the game as Hawke, face hidden, fighting some such threat and saving the new hero, time skip, the rest of the game begins.

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If you had an Ultimate Sacrifice import, do they still talk about the Warden disappearing at the end of DA2?