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Han Shot First wrote...
*If* Bioware rolls with a sequel and makes one ending the sole canon, the safe bets are on either Synthesis or Destroy. Synthesis appears to be the writer's favorite, or at the least the favorite of ME3's two leads, and Destroy is far and away the fan favorite.
Modifié par Morocco Mole, 17 juillet 2013 - 09:42 .
well the dragon age team has issues even sticking to their small decisions......Han Shot First wrote...
The mistake Bioware made with ME3's endings IMO, was in allowing the player to have choices between endings that result in radically different galaxies. That only works if there isn't going to be a sequel, and is the last game in the series.
Not that I don't think there should have been any choices involved in the endings, just that those choices should have been much smaller scale. Who lives and dies on the squad for example, or choices that affect the future of factions with altering them so radically that it cant be accounted for in a sequel.
There should have only been one way to defeat the Reapers, just as there was only one way to defeat the Archdemon in Dragon Age. Dragon Age: Origins didn't end with the option to turn all of Thedas into Darkspawn or for your hero to become the Archdemon. Those choices weren't available because it would have made a sequel difficult. Now Mass Effect is faced with that problem.
If they have common sense, they'll choose destroy... And I'm not talking about the fan rage.Han Shot First wrote...
*If* Bioware rolls with a sequel and makes one ending the sole canon, the safe bets are on either Synthesis or Destroy. Synthesis appears to be the writer's favorite, or at the least the favorite of ME3's two leads, and Destroy is far and away the fan favorite.
iakus wrote...
Ideally, I want as vague a canon as possible. One which MEHEM could be canon if the player wants it to be.
The problem with this particular instance is that the standard endings are so horrific to me, I am simply not interested in participating in a galaxy where any of them took place. Thus before I even think about touching the fire again, I want to know that it's not the same fire as before.
I have no illusions that they can maintain this. I've been warning people about it both for Mass Effect and Dragon Age for some time. Mass Effect, I believe has already reached a point where importing is no longer viable. Dragon Age is buying time by shifting protagonsits and locations which each game, will will eventually become unmanageable as well.
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pretty muchMorocco Mole wrote...
Dragon Age has already started deciding its own canon with the comics and novels. Despite what Gaider says.
Han Shot First wrote...
There should have only been one way to defeat the Reapers, just as there was only one way to defeat the Archdemon in Dragon Age. Dragon Age: Origins didn't end with the option to turn all of Thedas into Darkspawn or for your hero to become the Archdemon. Those choices weren't available because it would have made a sequel difficult. Now Mass Effect is faced with that problem.
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Modifié par Morocco Mole, 17 juillet 2013 - 10:00 .
There are still some pretty major choices left up in the air. Like the different leaders for the dwarves and whether they have an army of golems running around. Whether or not there is an old god baby. Whether or not you destroyed the darkspawn in awakening or allowed them to integrate with society etc.Morocco Mole wrote...
Four ways actually. Alistair kills it, Loghain kills it, sacrificing yourself, or using the dark ritual.
But DA's strength over Mass Effect is that there have been far less world/galaxy altering choices in that franchise. And even though I don't care for most of the writers, they also know when to ignore a choice when it gets in the way of a story they want to tell.
AlanC9 wrote...
Han Shot First wrote...
There should have only been one way to defeat the Reapers, just as there was only one way to defeat the Archdemon in Dragon Age. Dragon Age: Origins didn't end with the option to turn all of Thedas into Darkspawn or for your hero to become the Archdemon. Those choices weren't available because it would have made a sequel difficult. Now Mass Effect is faced with that problem.
Aren't there two ways to kill the Archdaemon? With and without DR?
Modifié par Han Shot First, 17 juillet 2013 - 10:32 .
Han Shot First wrote...
The DR only had an affect on whether or not a Warden died while slaying the Archdemon. Had the choices in ME3's ending only affected which squadmates lived or died, it would have been similar to the DR.
Of course the DR's impact could change if Morrigan's child (a consequence of choosing the DR) ever becomes a major plot element, but that hasn't happened yet.
Modifié par AlanC9, 17 juillet 2013 - 11:16 .
Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 17 juillet 2013 - 11:10 .
AlanC9 wrote...
Han Shot First wrote...
The DR only had an affect on whether or not a Warden died while slaying the Archdemon. Had the choices in ME3's ending only affected which squadmates lived or died, it would have been similar to the DR.
Of course the DR's impact could change if Morrigan's child (a consequence of choosing the DR) ever becomes a major plot element, but that hasn't happened yet.
That won't happen. Which is a problem with the DR. Not that I have any problem with my US Wardens being fools, but choices with fake downsides are something Bio's done far too often.
Though, yeah, if the DR's got no effect beyond saving the life of one Warden then there's only one ending.
Modifié par NeonFlux117, 17 juillet 2013 - 11:39 .
Indy_S wrote...
Where is this confirmation?
your opinion is fact i guessNeonFlux117 wrote...
the op made me laugh pretty hard. But basically he, or she, is right about ME4. But this is to be expected. EA is just doing what EA does, so who really cares. ME4 will be a good game, but it won't be great, or amazing like ME1 or ME2 or even ME3 were. Good game. A decent shooter. But that's about it. This is what you should expect from ME4.
If you want a truly great next gen action RPG, just play the Witcher 3. It will deliver and exceed all expectations.
ME4, DA3 and the "bioware RPG" are dead and long gone. So you know, just move on and enjoy it or don't. Don't be to hard or criticized BioWare- I actually think they cannot do any better and this is about as good as it will get, they don't have the talent or ability to make amazing games anymore. So don't be to hard on them.
kinda sad but trueNeonFlux117 wrote...
the op made me laugh pretty hard. But basically he, or she, is right about ME4. But this is to be expected. EA is just doing what EA does, so who really cares. ME4 will be a good game, but it won't be great, or amazing like ME1 or ME2 or even ME3 were. Good game. A decent shooter. But that's about it. This is what you should expect from ME4.
If you want a truly great next gen action RPG, just play the Witcher 3. It will deliver and exceed all expectations.
ME4, DA3 and the "bioware RPG" are dead and long gone. So you know, just move on and enjoy it or don't. Don't be to hard or criticized BioWare- I actually think they cannot do any better and this is about as good as it will get, they don't have the talent or ability to make amazing games anymore. So don't be to hard on them.
NeonFlux117 wrote...
the op made me laugh pretty hard. But basically he, or she, is right about ME4. But this is to be expected. EA is just doing what EA does, so who really cares. ME4 will be a good game, but it won't be great, or amazing like ME1 or ME2 or even ME3 were. Good game. A decent shooter. But that's about it. This is what you should expect from ME4.
If you want a truly great next gen action RPG, just play the Witcher 3. It will deliver and exceed all expectations.
ME4, DA3 and the "bioware RPG" are dead and long gone. So you know, just move on and enjoy it or don't. Don't be to hard or criticized BioWare- I actually think they cannot do any better and this is about as good as it will get, they don't have the talent or ability to make amazing games anymore. So don't be to hard on them.
by your definition Ryse could be an RPG.....and crysis tooDarth Brotarian wrote...
NeonFlux117 wrote...
the op made me laugh pretty hard. But basically he, or she, is right about ME4. But this is to be expected. EA is just doing what EA does, so who really cares. ME4 will be a good game, but it won't be great, or amazing like ME1 or ME2 or even ME3 were. Good game. A decent shooter. But that's about it. This is what you should expect from ME4.
If you want a truly great next gen action RPG, just play the Witcher 3. It will deliver and exceed all expectations.
ME4, DA3 and the "bioware RPG" are dead and long gone. So you know, just move on and enjoy it or don't. Don't be to hard or criticized BioWare- I actually think they cannot do any better and this is about as good as it will get, they don't have the talent or ability to make amazing games anymore. So don't be to hard on them.
I love this mentality.
"If it doesn't meet my definiton of an rpg, than it means that rpg's are all dead from bioware. Only my definition of an rpg is correct"
And the best part is that almost everyone on this tiny insignificant island of a website seems to think like this.
you are sorely misreading the sentenceMassPredator wrote...
I saw this today in IGN, i had a bad feeling when i see the frase "......during mass effect 3 last years". If that is gonna hapend, iam out. Sequel or nothing....
crimzontearz wrote...
by your definition Ryse could be an RPG.....and crysis tooDarth Brotarian wrote...
NeonFlux117 wrote...
the op made me laugh pretty hard. But basically he, or she, is right about ME4. But this is to be expected. EA is just doing what EA does, so who really cares. ME4 will be a good game, but it won't be great, or amazing like ME1 or ME2 or even ME3 were. Good game. A decent shooter. But that's about it. This is what you should expect from ME4.
If you want a truly great next gen action RPG, just play the Witcher 3. It will deliver and exceed all expectations.
ME4, DA3 and the "bioware RPG" are dead and long gone. So you know, just move on and enjoy it or don't. Don't be to hard or criticized BioWare- I actually think they cannot do any better and this is about as good as it will get, they don't have the talent or ability to make amazing games anymore. So don't be to hard on them.
I love this mentality.
"If it doesn't meet my definiton of an rpg, than it means that rpg's are all dead from bioware. Only my definition of an rpg is correct"
And the best part is that almost everyone on this tiny insignificant island of a website seems to think like this.
yeah no....
by your definition, as I said, Ryse and Crysis are RPGs.....no thanksDarth Brotarian wrote...
crimzontearz wrote...
by your definition Ryse could be an RPG.....and crysis tooDarth Brotarian wrote...
NeonFlux117 wrote...
the op made me laugh pretty hard. But basically he, or she, is right about ME4. But this is to be expected. EA is just doing what EA does, so who really cares. ME4 will be a good game, but it won't be great, or amazing like ME1 or ME2 or even ME3 were. Good game. A decent shooter. But that's about it. This is what you should expect from ME4.
If you want a truly great next gen action RPG, just play the Witcher 3. It will deliver and exceed all expectations.
ME4, DA3 and the "bioware RPG" are dead and long gone. So you know, just move on and enjoy it or don't. Don't be to hard or criticized BioWare- I actually think they cannot do any better and this is about as good as it will get, they don't have the talent or ability to make amazing games anymore. So don't be to hard on them.
I love this mentality.
"If it doesn't meet my definiton of an rpg, than it means that rpg's are all dead from bioware. Only my definition of an rpg is correct"
And the best part is that almost everyone on this tiny insignificant island of a website seems to think like this.
yeah no....
What is an rpg, but a giant choose your own adventure book with better graphics, bigger enviroments, and more responsive and diverse controls?
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