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[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

Guy On The Moon wrote...

I don't mean to be a d**k but I'm going to be a d**k

F*** the newcomers...srs. They're always catered to. It's not that freakin hard to go to ME1-3 and play it. Hell just watch a couple Youtube vids and get caught up. I'm tired of producers catering to lazy f**ktards

End d**k mode.

well,great

[crimzontearz]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Guy On The Moon wrote...

I don't mean to be a d**k but I'm going to be a d**k

F*** the newcomers...srs. They're always catered to. It's not that freakin hard to go to ME1-3 and play it. Hell just watch a couple Youtube vids and get caught up. I'm tired of producers catering to lazy f**ktards

End d**k mode.

"You should play over 100 hours of content or resort to watching videos to play and understand our games."

Sorry but I have to actually agree with Bioware on this one.

you should read 400 pages of the fellowship of the ring to understand two towers.....oh wait....

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Guy On The Moon wrote...

I don't mean to be a d**k but I'm going to be a d**k

F*** the newcomers...srs. They're always catered to. It's not that freakin hard to go to ME1-3 and play it. Hell just watch a couple Youtube vids and get caught up. I'm tired of producers catering to lazy f**ktards

End d**k mode.

"You should play over 100 hours of content or resort to watching videos to play and understand our games."

Sorry but I have to actually agree with Bioware on this one.

you also have to pay for the games...they're not free.Also,it's going to be next-gen,which means console players would have to play on a last gen console again

[jtav]

And really, all they have to do is move forward a few centuries to get a common timeline. The krogan adapted to the genophage once and can again. A remnant of quarians survived/geth were reconstructed. Reapers left. It's not that hard.

[Stalker]

Have you really expected anything different than a complete focus on newcomers? There is a reason so many of the acclaimed personalities escaped BioWare.

[crimzontearz]

Morocco Mole wrote...

you should read 400 pages of the fellowship of the ring to understand two towers.....oh wait....

Novels are a diffrent form of entertainment and really shouldn't be compared to videogames. 

you also have to pay for the games...they're not free.Also,it's going to
be next-gen,which means console players would have to play on a last
gen console again

Then add in the price of DLC and it quickly becomes even more expensive.

if you want them to have a similarly hugh level of storytelling then yes, you definitely ****ing should, I am tired of developers crafting story driven games hitting the brakes because they are assuming newcomers are going to be lazy a stupid. There ARE games for those crowds, they are called stand alone games.


 
I applaud developers who do not cater to newcomers in their non standalone story driven games

[Guy On The Moon]

crimzontearz wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

Guy On The Moon wrote...

I don't mean to be a d**k but I'm going to be a d**k

F*** the newcomers...srs. They're always catered to. It's not that freakin hard to go to ME1-3 and play it. Hell just watch a couple Youtube vids and get caught up. I'm tired of producers catering to lazy f**ktards

End d**k mode.

"You should play over 100 hours of content or resort to watching videos to play and understand our games."

Sorry but I have to actually agree with Bioware on this one.

you should read 400 pages of the fellowship of the ring to understand two towers.....oh wait....

Or just sit your butt down and watch the movie.  You don't see Peter Jackson making the Return of the King all "newcomer" friendly do you?  I didn't have a clue what was going on in the 2nd or 3rd one, so I sat my a** down and watched the 1st one.  It's my responsibility to obtain it.

I didn't read the books and I'm sure they're better than the movies but the movies was enough for me to understand the world.

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

you also have to pay for the games...they're not free.Also,it's going to be next-gen,which means console players would have to play on a last gen console again

Morocco Mole wrote...

Then add in the price of DLC and it quickly becomes even more expensive. 

Let's continue off the LotR example

So I didn't undestand the Return of the King but saw the other two.  I could understand Middle-Earth and LotR more if I saw the Hobbit but it's not essential.

The only purpose to cater to newcomers is for money.  So you can get new people to buy your stuff.  And I agree with that...but not all the time.  Mass Effect is a big enough name now that it doesn't need to cater to newcomers anymore.
In the beginning of Assassin's Creed 3 they litterally recapped the entire previous 4 games in a mini short cinematic.  That's all you need to do.  If people want to know more on the backstory then go buy the freakin games and play it.  If you're too lazy to do that then just look on youtube for "Assassin's Creed in 5 min" or some crap like that.  And if you're still angry and lost and too lazy to do those things then I have no words for you.

Honestly Ubisoft is the only one that has gotten this thing right.  Everybody else just wants 12 year olds' parents to buy their games

Modifié par Guy On The Moon, 18 juillet 2013 - 11:36 .

[Guy On The Moon]

I'm not even talking about the novels. Exclude them from that. I'm just talking about the film series. I just said reading would prob. give you more info on the Middle-Earth world

[crimzontearz]

Morocco Mole wrote...

And what makes you think Mass Effect 4 isn't going to be a stand-alone game?

I have no concrete information to judge what it will be one way or the other but THAT SAID, even assuming they pull a FULL DmC on us (which I rather enjoyed btw) and make it, therefore, as accessible to newcomers to the universe as possible...then what? Are we back to "hey, Mass Effect TNG2 is a direct sequel to the original game and IT'S THE BEST PLACE TO START THE SAGA" if the game is not a standalone? Yeah no thanks at this point if that s Bioware's ongoing mentality I hope each subsequent game is a standalone with entirely new characters and maybe one or two cameos


 
Oh and Guyonthemoon, I hope you know we are on the same page

Modifié par crimzontearz, 18 juillet 2013 - 11:41 .

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

sigh..this talk is pointless since the next mass effect could be a prequel.

and a prequel is far better for newcomers,since they don't know anything about mass effect.

also @Guyonthemoon companies want MONEY,not satisfy you.ESPECIALLY EA

[jtav]

And I should watch TOS and TNG because I want to watch DS9? More to the point: I played BG2 first and the game still took time to explain what was going on and who these people were. And besides, a decent imported save is much less grim with fewer difficult choices than a non-import.

[Remix-General Aetius]

Modius Prime wrote...

Hey TheGarden2010, can I just say how much I love your profile pic (I need photo shop...)?

yep, basic Photoshop. you can have the full size if yer want

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Modifié par TheGarden2010, 18 juillet 2013 - 11:49 .

[Guy On The Moon]

jtav wrote...

And I should watch TOS and TNG because I want to watch DS9? More to the point: I played BG2 first and the game still took time to explain what was going on and who these people were. And besides, a decent imported save is much less grim with fewer difficult choices than a non-import.

No, you should watch those if you're upset because you don't understand anything in DS9 and want to know more about it

Saves go into personal feelings for the game.

If you're lost and upset pick up a book and read.  It's pretty simple.  It's honestly just how math classes recap a bit from previous levels to make surey you know something.  But after that it's your responsibility to know the info...if you desire to learn.  If not you can just go through for pure entertainment but don't get mad at Calculus because you don't get it

[crimzontearz]

jtav wrote...

And I should watch TOS and TNG because I want to watch DS9? More to the point: I played BG2 first and the game still took time to explain what was going on and who these people were. And besides, a decent imported save is much less grim with fewer difficult choices than a non-import.

those are completely different series set in the same universe, and DS9 deals most of the time with new races from another quadrant.

That example just does not fit with subsequent, direct sequels as we are discussing them

[satunnainen]

I guess frostbite 3? does have well developed in game cash shopping tools

Other than that, ill wait and see atleast the first teasers and announcement before I doom the whole game.

[Tracer01]

So, are they going to reveal some details tomorrow on PAX?

[crimzontearz]

Tracer01 wrote...

So, are they going to reveal some details tomorrow on PAX?

PAX happens at the same time as SDCC????

[JamesFaith]

crimzontearz wrote...

jtav wrote...

And I should watch TOS and TNG because I want to watch DS9? More to the point: I played BG2 first and the game still took time to explain what was going on and who these people were. And besides, a decent imported save is much less grim with fewer difficult choices than a non-import.

those are completely different series set in the same universe, and DS9 deals most of the time with new races from another quadrant.

That example just does not fit with subsequent, direct sequels as we are discussing them

And when this became discussion only about subsequent direct sequel?

People here were also talking about prequel or stand-alone games and in this case is example works perfectly.

[Tracer01]

crimzontearz wrote...

PAX happens at the same time as SDCC????

aus.paxsite.com/

What is SDCC?

[Indy_S]

San Diego Comic Con

[Arcian]

SSPBOURNE wrote...

So, not only with 'He who shall not be slandered at risk of being banned' be the lead writer

S U P E R M A C