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[Mcfly616]

crimzontearz wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

And what makes you think Mass Effect 4 isn't going to be a stand-alone game?

if that s Bioware's ongoing mentality I hope each subsequent game is a standalone with entirely new characters

nothing wrong with that

[Iakus]

Mr Massakka wrote...

Have you really expected anything different than a complete focus on newcomers? There is a reason so many of the acclaimed personalities escaped BioWare.

Well, since fan retention no longer seems to be a priority, you have a point there...

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

iakus wrote...

Mr Massakka wrote...

Have you really expected anything different than a complete focus on newcomers? There is a reason so many of the acclaimed personalities escaped BioWare.

Well, since fan retention no longer seems to be a priority, you have a point there...

im sure BioWare has more things to do than try to satisfy keyboard warriors:P

[crimzontearz]

Mcfly616 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

And what makes you think Mass Effect 4 isn't going to be a stand-alone game?

if that s Bioware's ongoing mentality I hope each subsequent game is a standalone with entirely new characters

nothing wrong with that

you are right, nothing wrong with that, and yet that does not mean that the alternative could not have been much better realized.

[johnj1979]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

johnj1979 wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

johnj1979 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

johnj1979 wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

johnj1979 wrote...

With the mess of Mass Effect 3 how on earth can there be a Mass Effect 4?

reboot,prequel,retcon...easy

Do you really think that it will be anything but a sequel?

yep....reboot is a possibility

Not going to happen, it will be awful sequel to an awful ending to what was a good series of games

when was ME a good series?The word you're looking for is overrated.

The next ME will be better than any game of the trilogy.

Why?
Frostbite 3 engine.

I don't know ME 1 and 2 were fairly good. Some of the DLC for ME 2 let it down

it's a lie.ME1 is mediocre at best.The combat is horrible,the characters are  all boring blah blah.It has a decent plot,i admit,but it's not enough to justify the 89 metascore.I've played many indie games that are way better than ME1

ME2 has better combat but it's horribly written

ME3 is the only game a hardcore gamer can enjoy

Can I have what your on?

Are you describing ME 1 or ME 3. ME 3 is boring, the characters are lifeless and the multiplayer seem to only work if install the game onto a consoles Hard Disc. The story of ME 3 seems to nothing or very very little to do with the events of ME 1 and 2. The combat in ME 3 is rubbish, the squad mates in ME 3 are waste of time being in it because they seem to disappear when there is fight and they do next to no damage on the enemy.

[jtav]

I've been playing BW games since KOTOR. ME1 has the dullest cast outside of the OC of NWN to the point where I have to forcibly remind myself to talk to them (ME3 isn't much better there by virtue of being stuck with people I didn't like the first time). The plot feels like warmed over KOTOR. Shepard is best here, but I find it weakest overall.

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

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Can I have what your on?

Are you describing ME 1 or ME 3. ME 3 is boring, the characters are lifeless and the multiplayer seem to only work if install the game onto a consoles Hard Disc. The story of ME 3 seems to nothing or very very little to do with the events of ME 1 and 2. The combat in ME 3 is rubbish, the squad mates in ME 3 are waste of time being in it because they seem to disappear when there is fight and they do next to no damage on the enemy.[/quote]












Sorry,your grammar is bad.I don't understand what you're trying to say

Modifié par IntelligentME3Fanboy, 18 juillet 2013 - 01:58 .

[Bleachrude]

We can't really expect a player to have to play ME1-3 to understand ME4....

As an earlier poster mentioned, that's well over 75 hours of game AND the added cost once you factor in all the past games and DLC....

I think you can read the entire LotR trilogy in under 12 hours and for FREE thanks to your local library.

Seriously, I can't believe anyone is saying that...

[Mcfly616]

I think you meant to say that ME2 has very very little to do with the events of ME1 or ME3.



And lets be honest, the combat is by far the best in ME3. ME1 is still the best game though. Best story and best atmosphere.

Modifié par Mcfly616, 18 juillet 2013 - 02:23 .

[Kel Riever]

“So first, we don’t want to make ‘Shepard 2′, or Mass Effect 4 with like, ‘oh there’s no more Shepard but you’re a soldier in the universe’. So this will be a very, very different context for sure, and nothing has been decided on the rest.”

I don't understand. How can you make Call of Duty in space and not have a soldier for a character?

Maybe you are a scholar. A scholar with a gun and the need to shoot stuff. Maybe your weapon is a book thrower. Because, you know, you don't read books. You shoot them at bad guys!

Okay, okay, seriously. Maybe you are a line cook. But it is in third person view. And you have to serve aliens food with a smile on your face or risk taking damage as they slap you across the head when they get angry. But the key is to unlock the proper ingredients to poison all the aliens in the caffeteria and escape. For mankind!

People are right. This could be the greatest Mass Effect ever!

[Redbelle]

You get to play the evangelical Batarian on Omega with the Finger of Bod. Armed with the book of Spacerham. You go forth and you preach the enemy into submission. That all humans need to be destroyed because you don't like them very much and Bod want's it to happen.

And so it will come to pass that everything the finger of Bod touches shall turn to Eezo and all who hear the word of Spacerham shall put down their omnitools and follow the Batarian preacher.

Hmmmm. Maybe not.

[Kel Riever]

Redbelle wrote...

You get to play the evangelical Batarian on Omega with the Finger of Bod. Armed with the book of Spacerham. You go forth and you preach the enemy into submission. That all humans need to be destroyed because you don't like them very much and Bod want's it to happen.

And so it will come to pass that everything the finger of Bod touches shall turn to Eezo and all who hear the word of Spacerham shall put down their omnitools and follow the Batarian preacher.

Hmmmm. Maybe not.

I don't know.  Sounds kind of promising.

[AlanC9]

Kel Riever wrote...

“So first, we don’t want to make ‘Shepard 2′, or Mass Effect 4 with like, ‘oh there’s no more Shepard but you’re a soldier in the universe’. So this will be a very, very different context for sure, and nothing has been decided on the rest.”

I don't understand. How can you make Call of Duty in space and not have a soldier for a character?

At the risk of taking a joke post seriously, the MEuniverse is pretty heavily-armed. All sorts of people are running around with guns shooting other people.

[AlanC9]

Imanol de Tafalla wrote...

iakus wrote...
Other developers' games haven't created the level of disgust and ill-will among their players that these endings have created.

If Bioware was smart, this next series will completely disavow them.

Oh cry me a river.  You are not every player, nor don't you represent them.

It would be incredibly lame if Bioware decided to not go along with what they started and ignore the results of the endings by not canonizing one of them (preferably High-EMS Destroy).    

It'd be an interesting experiment if Bio decided to screw over the people who accept the endings in favor of those who don't, all right. I wonder if Bio could actually get to zero fans that way? 

Although iakus has a more reasonable proposal elsewhere; Bio should merely refrain from making the MEHEM fantasy universe impossible. This is compatible with what you want if the geth die at Rannoch.

Modifié par AlanC9, 18 juillet 2013 - 03:58 .

[Iakus]

Imanol de Tafalla wrote...

iakus wrote...

Other developers' games haven't created the level of disgust and ill-will among their players that these endings have created.

If Bioware was smart, this next series will completely disavow them.

Oh cry me a river.  You are not every player, nor don't you represent them.

I'm not every player.  But that doesn't make the anger, disgust and suspiscion Bioware has built up go away.  Don't try to marginalize it by pretending I'm the only one who disliked the ending. The backlash ME3 generated was well-nigh unprecedented, and never fully departed.

It would be incredibly lame if Bioware decided to not go along with what they started and ignore the results of the endings by not canonizing one of them (preferably High-EMS Destroy).    

They canonize one ending, they ignore everyone else's results.  Isn't that lame anyway?

But I guess that's okay if it's your ending, right?

[Iakus]

AlanC9 wrote...

Although iakus has a more reasonable proposal elsewhere; Bio should merely refrain from making the MEHEM fantasy universe impossible. This is compatible with what you want if the geth die at Rannoch.

Only problem is I can never import an ME2 game again  where I turn on Legion.

I guess I could live with that, though it still sucks.

[BioWareAre****s]

Personally, I would like to be a space pirate in ME4. 

johnj1979 wrote...


Can I have what your on?

Are you describing ME 1 or ME 3. ME 3 is boring, the characters are lifeless and the multiplayer seem to only work if install the game onto a consoles Hard Disc. The story of ME 3 seems to nothing or very very little to do with the events of ME 1 and 2. The combat in ME 3 is rubbish, the squad mates in ME 3 are waste of time being in it because they seem to disappear when there is fight and they do next to no damage on the enemy.

Then I suggest you learn how to play the game properly, because I've never had that problem.

[Iakus]

EntropicAngel wrote...

I found it amusing, actually--all these sad souls foaming at the mouth saying Bioware was trying to destroy the franchise, and *poof* new game coming!

I'm sure they'll find SOME way to spin it negatively, though--well, here we are.

You have a very strange concept of what's amusing.

Me, I find it amusing that after burning so much of Mass Effect's credibility, they foist the product onto a new development team to clean up the mess.

I do not envy those people.  They have a colossal task ahead.

[AlanC9]

iakus wrote...


Only problem is I can never import an ME2 game again  where I turn on Legion.

I guess I could live with that, though it still sucks.

You could import ones where Tali is exiled and you rewrote the heretics. Then you can't make peace at Rannoch, right?

[Iakus]

AlanC9 wrote...

iakus wrote...


Only problem is I can never import an ME2 game again  where I turn on Legion.

I guess I could live with that, though it still sucks.

You could import ones where Tali is exiled and you rewrote the heretics. Then you can't make peace at Rannoch, right?

That would mean shooting Legion though.  A friend.  The Legion VI is a different character.  Less trusting or organics and more prone to violence.  If I have to shoot someone, I'd rather shoot that one.

[AlanC9]

iakus wrote...

They canonize one ending, they ignore everyone else's results.  Isn't that lame anyway?

But I guess that's okay if it's your ending, right?

Even if it's not. I'm a Control fan myself, but I've always thought that Destroy would make the better sequel. Preferably without relays.

Anyway, it's one thing to canonize that a particular Shepard made a particular choice, but quite another to canonize that the choice itself never happened.

Re Legion: right. Saving the galaxy's a tough job sometimes. 

Modifié par AlanC9, 18 juillet 2013 - 04:16 .

[Iakus]

Imanol de Tafalla wrote...

Who says I marginalized you?  I know that the backlash towards the endings, even post-EC, was quite extensive.  Though at the same time, the EC made a lot of people happy.

I didn't say you marginalized me, I said you're marinalizing the backlash.  Even with EC, a lot of people are still angry.  EC was at best a partial success. 

Except that almost everyone, including you, chose to destroy the Reapers.  Bioware, along with just about every developer in the world,  knows that they cannot please everyone.  Thus, they have to create a solution that pleases the greatest amount of people.

Besides, it would not be first time Bioware decided to forfeit player choices in order to establish a canon.  

My Destroy is different from your Destroy.  And even those who do pick it don't all necessarilly like it, but simply see it as the "least bad" option.

Not to mention there are those who play Citadel as their postgame ending, complete with a live EDI.  Pretending the suckage from Destroy didn't really happen.

Canonizing any ending as the "true" ending would likely please fewer people than you think. 

Oh and Bioware pulling a "You Chose Wrong" is generally considered a bad thing.