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[adayaday]

AlanC9 wrote...

Because ...... reasons?

I suppose you've got some, but it's traditional to say what the reasons are rather than to rely on our ESP to divine them.

Connection issues,unstable servers,crappy tech suppose and that just my own personal experience.
And while i am sure steam also have those problems,i have yet to encounter them.

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

AlanC9 wrote...

Fandango9641 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

Origin is a pain.Why u no bring EA games to Steam EA??

What's better about Steam?

Everything Alan.

Because ...... reasons?

I suppose you've got some, but it's traditional to say what the reasons are rather than to rely on our ESP to divine them.

Because...

[Archonsg]

Welcome to the PC Master Gaming Race.
Three words that separates us from the unwashed Console plebs, "Mods! Mods! Mods!"

[Sumthing]

Jukaga wrote...

Reorte wrote...


There's nothing good about Steam and even less about Origin. Neither exist for or do anything for your benefit.

Yep, I sure hate not having to carry around my 300+ games and being able to install them anywhere in the world that has wi-fi. Damn I hate it when Steam prices everything 75% off, the nerve of those people.

I'd rather have to carry around 300+ games than use Steam. I don't care about discounts or sales, I'm not putting money on the internet. You don't own any of those 300+ games on Steam. You pay for access to play them, not to actually own the copy of the game. I also hate not being able to play my games or install my games due to a lack of internet access. Not everywhere in the world has internet access, and that is an inherent flaw in Steam's design.
Discounts are not so amazing. You can buy cheap games if you shop around, or buy used copies. Of course, Steam got rid of all that.
If you have physical copies of 300+ games, then you can install them anywhere in the world, with or without Wi-Fi. Unless they are on Steam of use a similar system like Origin.

[Sumthing]

Fandango9641 wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

Welcome to the PC Master Gaming Race.
Three words that separates us from the unwashed Console plebs, "Mods! Mods! Mods!"

Aye, Steam Workshop is a phenomenal feature.

I can get my mods without Steam Workshop. I have been able to do so way before Steam existed.

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

Sumthing wrote...

Jukaga wrote...

Reorte wrote...


There's nothing good about Steam and even less about Origin. Neither exist for or do anything for your benefit.

Yep, I sure hate not having to carry around my 300+ games and being able to install them anywhere in the world that has wi-fi. Damn I hate it when Steam prices everything 75% off, the nerve of those people.

I'd rather have to carry around 300+ games than use Steam. I don't care about discounts or sales, I'm not putting money on the internet. You don't own any of those 300+ games on Steam. You pay for access to play them, not to actually own the copy of the game. I also hate not being able to play my games or install my games due to a lack of internet access. Not everywhere in the world has internet access, and that is an inherent flaw in Steam's design.
Discounts are not so amazing. You can buy cheap games if you shop around, or buy used copies. Of course, Steam got rid of all that.
If you have physical copies of 300+ games, then you can install them anywhere in the world, with or without Wi-Fi. Unless they are on Steam of use a similar system like Origin.

"PC Master Race" if you can't get internet or want used games,just buy a PS4 or xbone.No one forces you to play on PC.I use both PC and PS

[Sumthing]

Fandango9641 wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

Fandango9641 wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

Welcome to the PC Master Gaming Race.
Three words that separates us from the unwashed Console plebs, "Mods! Mods! Mods!"

Aye, Steam Workshop is a phenomenal feature.

I can get my mods without Steam Workshop. I have been able to do so way before Steam existed.

Me too Sumthing, but I use the Steam Workshop now. Problem?

I don't care. Do what you want. But I don't want to be forced to use a service I don't want to use. If Steam was optional, fine, I'd use it. If it was like Xfire, where I didn't have to have it to play games, great. But being forced to use it and it's DRM is terrible. If they get hacked, if I get banned for something stupid, I lose all my games, all the money I have invested into those games and Steam.

[Sumthing]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

I'd rather have to carry around 300+ games than use Steam. I don't care about discounts or sales, I'm not putting money on the internet. You don't own any of those 300+ games on Steam. You pay for access to play them, not to actually own the copy of the game. I also hate not being able to play my games or install my games due to a lack of internet access. Not everywhere in the world has internet access, and that is an inherent flaw in Steam's design.
Discounts are not so amazing. You can buy cheap games if you shop around, or buy used copies. Of course, Steam got rid of all that.
If you have physical copies of 300+ games, then you can install them anywhere in the world, with or without Wi-Fi. Unless they are on Steam of use a similar system like Origin.

"PC Master Race" if you can't get internet or want used games,just buy a PS4 or xbone.No one forces you to play on PC.I use both PC and PS

What if I want mods, or an easily upgradable platform, and something that I can use, not ONLY for gaming, but also for work or email or youtube. I don't want to have to waste money on something because you people think Steam internet required DRM should be forced upon everyone else. Xbone (I assume that you are referring to xbox1) requires an internet connection. I can't get mods on console now, can I. I can't make my own mods on console. PC should be a free platform. When Gabe N went off at Microsoft for Windows 8 restricting the freedom of the PC, he and all his Valve fanboys failed to realise that they strangled all hope of freedom on the PC back when they forced Steam DRM down gamer's throats, and sweetened the deal with cheap access to games. Because I don't own those games technically.

[Sumthing]

Fandango9641 wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

Fandango9641 wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

Fandango9641 wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

Welcome to the PC Master Gaming Race.
Three words that separates us from the unwashed Console plebs, "Mods! Mods! Mods!"

Aye, Steam Workshop is a phenomenal feature.

I can get my mods without Steam Workshop. I have been able to do so way before Steam existed.

Me too Sumthing, but I use the Steam Workshop now. Problem?

I don't care. Do what you want. But I don't want to be forced to use a service I don't want to use. If Steam was optional, fine, I'd use it. If it was like Xfire, where I didn't have to have it to play games, great. But being forced to use it and it's DRM is terrible. If they get hacked, if I get banned for something stupid, I lose all my games, all the money I have invested into those games and Steam.

Exactly who is forcing you to use Steam?

Exactly who is forcing you to follow the law? Also, to answer your question, Valve, and companies that release their games, and having them require Steam.

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

Sumthing wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

I'd rather have to carry around 300+ games than use Steam. I don't care about discounts or sales, I'm not putting money on the internet. You don't own any of those 300+ games on Steam. You pay for access to play them, not to actually own the copy of the game. I also hate not being able to play my games or install my games due to a lack of internet access. Not everywhere in the world has internet access, and that is an inherent flaw in Steam's design.
Discounts are not so amazing. You can buy cheap games if you shop around, or buy used copies. Of course, Steam got rid of all that.
If you have physical copies of 300+ games, then you can install them anywhere in the world, with or without Wi-Fi. Unless they are on Steam of use a similar system like Origin.

"PC Master Race" if you can't get internet or want used games,just buy a PS4 or xbone.No one forces you to play on PC.I use both PC and PS

Sounds like u want an all in one entertainment platform.Get an xbox one

[Sumthing]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

I'd rather have to carry around 300+ games than use Steam. I don't care about discounts or sales, I'm not putting money on the internet. You don't own any of those 300+ games on Steam. You pay for access to play them, not to actually own the copy of the game. I also hate not being able to play my games or install my games due to a lack of internet access. Not everywhere in the world has internet access, and that is an inherent flaw in Steam's design.
Discounts are not so amazing. You can buy cheap games if you shop around, or buy used copies. Of course, Steam got rid of all that.
If you have physical copies of 300+ games, then you can install them anywhere in the world, with or without Wi-Fi. Unless they are on Steam of use a similar system like Origin.

"PC Master Race" if you can't get internet or want used games,just buy a PS4 or xbone.No one forces you to play on PC.I use both PC and PS

Sounds like u want an all in one entertainment platform.Get an xbox one

Why don't you get an Xbox one? There is really no difference between it and steam.

[Sumthing]

Fandango9641 wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

Fandango9641 wrote...

Sumthing wrote...

I don't care. Do what you want. But I don't want to be forced to use a service I don't want to use. If Steam was optional, fine, I'd use it. If it was like Xfire, where I didn't have to have it to play games, great. But being forced to use it and it's DRM is terrible. If they get hacked, if I get banned for something stupid, I lose all my games, all the money I have invested into those games and Steam.

Exactly who is forcing you to use Steam?

Exactly who is forcing you to follow the law? Also, to answer your question, Valve, and companies that release their games, and having them require Steam.

No, the question was 'who is forcing you to use Steam'?

Let me explain it to you in simple terms. I want to play games like Skyrim, Empire Total War, and Sins of a Solar Empire. If I want to play these games, I am forced to use Steam. Now why do I have to use Steam to play these games? Because Valve and the Companies that release their games through Steam make the game require Steam to be played. Therefore, if I want to play the Game, Valve and the Game Company force me to use Steam in that sens. Now yes, technically no one is pointing a gun at my head and screaming "use Steam!" But I am certain that there are things in your life that you don't want to do, and don't have to do, but you do anyway. Do you have to pay taxes? Technically not. Of course, if you want a reasonable standard of living, you probably have to. Do you want to go to work? Maybe not, and no one is forcing you to, but you do so anyway.

Modifié par Sumthing, 18 juillet 2013 - 11:13 .

[dorktainian]

steam is great. shouldnt be needed tho.

[Sumthing]

dorktainian wrote...

steam is great. shouldnt be needed tho.

Exactly. Shouldn't be needed. Finally someone with some sense.

[Iakus]

ME3 is not available on Steam, so what's the point of discussing it here?

[Sumthing]

Fandango9641 wrote...

Pay your money and take your choice. Don't like Steam? Don't use it. Don't like Origin? Don't use it. See how that works?

You are basically forcing me to choose between playing a game, and not using Steam. If I don't use it, nothing is going to change. It takes more than one person to make a company change their ways. Why is Steam or Origin so essential to a game? Why do we need it? Why does being forced to use it in order to play the game appear to be such a good thing to you?