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#26
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Melca36 wrote...

Um...No thanks. I've had that character shove down my throat enough

Should have just killed him like I did. Doubt even that will stop him from making a cameo in the next game.

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ShadyKat wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

Um...No thanks. I've had that character shove down my throat enough

Should have just killed him like I did. Doubt even that will stop him from making a cameo in the next game.



Pfft!!  Death didn't stop Leliana from coming back from the grave!  Imagine my surprise at seeing her in the end of DA2.  She seemed pretty dead when I killed her in DAO.

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I honestly don't think he'll return, but I have no problem with a cameo only for the people who didn't purposely screw him over if he does.


Yeah, a small cameo would be so welcome. Alistair's cameo in DAII was really nice despite his appearance changes. Fenris and Aveline are by far my favorite game characters ever, and I can only imagine how glad I'd be to know they're ok during DA:I events.

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I think they will go the ME3 route and have short cameo quests for all the companions from DA2. We will probably see everyone again in one way or another.

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I hope he tells us about how he was a slave and how much he hates magic; I feel he didn't explore those topics enough in DA2.

Modifié par Cthulhu42, 18 juillet 2013 - 03:49 .


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I just want a whole BioWare game dedicated to Zevran, Fenris, Isabela and my character (Warden, Hawke or a new one, I don't care). With sex scenes included.

But... with a cameo of him talking about how handsome and good lover my Fem Hawke is, i'm satisfied.

Modifié par Sontemuka, 18 juillet 2013 - 04:34 .


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Fenris would've been a decent character if he lived up to his namesake by transforming into a lyrium wolf :)

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Over all I would like to know what became of him, Isabela, and Aveline. (Though I would bet money Aveline is the dead women in the new trailer.) (of course my Hawke and Merrill are living happily ever after in their mountain hideout)

Why are so many people assuming that the dead person in the trailer is anyone remotely relevant to the plot? Varric is just observing the scene, and he is wincing at the general loss of life and devastation. There is zero indication that it is someone important. It's actually kind of annoying to me that people keep assuming that one of many covered bodies that all look the same is somehow someone important to the universe because Varric looks down on it.

Regarding Fenris, I would like to see him, but as was said, only to the extent that we saw Zevran in Dragon Age 2. His story has already been told, so it would be nice to just get an epilogue to it, so to speak.

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I killed him. C:

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...is the most annoying character in any form of fiction ever conceived.

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Meh.

Fenris (along DAII Anders) is my least favorite character of the franchise.

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Only if devs make him less anime-looking.

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Actually i think DA2 had the largest group of dysfunctional characters of any game I have ever played. Fenris had the potential to be a really interesting character, but instead he was turned into just another whiney dude with self esteem issues.

Modifié par AstraDrakkar, 18 juillet 2013 - 09:23 .


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Melca36 wrote...

Um...No thanks. I've had that character shove down my throat enough


You do know that he's recruited via a completely skippable sidequest, right? And even if you do that quest, you can still refuse his offer to join you. And even if you do recruit him at that point, you don't have to have him in your party or even talk to him. Plus there's at least two other instaces where you can get rid of him.

I can understand disliking Fenris, but I really don't see why you'd feel he's "shoved down your throat".

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As much as I like the companions there's only so much you can do before you have to put their stories to bed.

There's too many amazing characters in Thedas and the new games give us a chance to hear their stories. Brief cameos are fine but unless there's a reason related to the plot that require certain characters to be there it would just feel forced due to fan pressure . -coughhobbitlegolascough-

Modifié par AelixVII, 18 juillet 2013 - 10:59 .


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arakat wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

Um...No thanks. I've had that character shove down my throat enough


You do know that he's recruited via a completely skippable sidequest, right? And even if you do that quest, you can still refuse his offer to join you. And even if you do recruit him at that point, you don't have to have him in your party or even talk to him. Plus there's at least two other instaces where you can get rid of him.

I can understand disliking Fenris, but I really don't see why you'd feel he's "shoved down your throat".

Sometimes, it isn't overexposure in the game so much as overexposure elsewhere, e.g. the forums. It's surprisingly easy for ambivalence or mild antipathy to turn into massive hatred in the face of excessive fan squeeage. This isn't unique to Fenris fans/anti-fans, of course. It can happen with any character in the game. People who have been turned off toward a character can usually avoid triggers by avoiding designated squee threads, but when the threads crop up too frequently or spill over into unrelated topics, it gets overwhelming.

On topic, I don't think we need to see Fenris again. He was fine as a companion and once I stopped trying to create a Hawke who could romance him, I learned to like him in a friendship capacity, but I don't think he is still relevent at this point. He isn't really tied into any of the continuing DA2 themes. His hatred of mages was intense, but it was personal, not political. He had no interest in elves, Orlais, or Chantry affairs. Had he shown any interest in reforming Tevinter and eliminating slavery there, I could understand seeing him in that capacity, but his interest in the plight of his (former) fellow slaves ended with his own freedom. Unless there's another spirit of Justice floating around to galvanize him, I just don't see him taking on the Tevinter Imperium to improve the lives of people he didn't care that much about to begin with. YMMV, but I don't like to see characters return for the sake of fan service.

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If the proposed quest gives me the option to kill him, then I support it.

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You can kill him? When?

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Bionuts wrote...

You can kill him? When?

In the final sequence of DA2. If you side with the mages and have >50% rivalry but less than 100%, he will fight you and you have to kill him.

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I realize a lot of players didn't like Fenris for his personality, but - eh - that was the point. He's supposed to be hard to like/easy to hate. I thought that was brilliant character development on the part of the devs. Think of how many 2 dimensional video game characters there are that you're supposed to dislike. Tons. It's like being asked to hate a lamppost.

And Gideon Emery really brought it home by his phenomenal voice acting, always throwing just the right amount of "stank" on Fenris' lines. Honestly, the fact that you so deeply hate the character of Fenris shows just how much talent went into creating him.

I thought the character was well written and well played. I want to see him just one more time in Inquisition.

Modifié par Trista Hawke, 18 juillet 2013 - 03:48 .


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I'll agree that Gideon Emery has a great voice and I hope they use him for a different character in DAI. I want a whole new group of companions to argue about in the future.

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But AelixVII, Legolas is a hot elf dude so that's totally diff...

Ahem.

Truthfully, I wouldn't mind cameos from DA2 companions or other characters, especially if they're conditional as Nathaniel and the Harrowmont assasins were. Failing that, Gideon Emery's voice is welcome in my ears under another name, too.

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berelinde wrote...

Sometimes, it isn't overexposure in the game so much as overexposure elsewhere, e.g. the forums. It's surprisingly easy for ambivalence or mild antipathy to turn into massive hatred in the face of excessive fan squeeage. This isn't unique to Fenris fans/anti-fans, of course. It can happen with any character in the game. People who have been turned off toward a character can usually avoid triggers by avoiding designated squee threads, but when the threads crop up too frequently or spill over into unrelated topics, it gets overwhelming.


Fenris has been one of the most hated characters in all of DA since I joined the forums in Fall '11. I have to assume that all this fan squeeage you're talking about took place before then, but it has pretty much stopped since then and has been confined to the Fenris thread. Occasionally he will come up in a "who's your favorite romance?" or "who would you like to see again?" thread, but so do all the other characters. He's usually on the lower end of fan polls.

People who hate certain characters or aspects of the game here on BSN just seem to have very intense, repressed feelings of hatred in general. I've never experienced that kind of intensity towards something like a video game. I mean I'm not a Morrigan fan, but I don't burst out complaining that I'm tired of having her crammed and stuffed down my throat. Because I'm not; she's just a video game character, and although I sighed when I saw her again, I just shrugged and went on with my life. (And certainly didn't enter any Morrigan-friendly threads to complain about her... what would that solve?)

But at this point you just expect hatred and vitriol when you start any thread on the BSN, especially a character thread. People are very bizarre... and I think in general just need to meditate more and perhaps get into yoga or tai chi....

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motomotogirl wrote...

berelinde wrote...

Sometimes, it isn't overexposure in the game so much as overexposure elsewhere, e.g. the forums. It's surprisingly easy for ambivalence or mild antipathy to turn into massive hatred in the face of excessive fan squeeage. This isn't unique to Fenris fans/anti-fans, of course. It can happen with any character in the game. People who have been turned off toward a character can usually avoid triggers by avoiding designated squee threads, but when the threads crop up too frequently or spill over into unrelated topics, it gets overwhelming.


Fenris has been one of the most hated characters in all of DA since I joined the forums in Fall '11. I have to assume that all this fan squeeage you're talking about took place before then, but it has pretty much stopped since then and has been confined to the Fenris thread. Occasionally he will come up in a "who's your favorite romance?" or "who would you like to see again?" thread, but so do all the other characters. He's usually on the lower end of fan polls.

People who hate certain characters or aspects of the game here on BSN just seem to have very intense, repressed feelings of hatred in general. I've never experienced that kind of intensity towards something like a video game. I mean I'm not a Morrigan fan, but I don't burst out complaining that I'm tired of having her crammed and stuffed down my throat. Because I'm not; she's just a video game character, and although I sighed when I saw her again, I just shrugged and went on with my life. (And certainly didn't enter any Morrigan-friendly threads to complain about her... what would that solve?)

But at this point you just expect hatred and vitriol when you start any thread on the BSN, especially a character thread. People are very bizarre... and I think in general just need to meditate more and perhaps get into yoga or tai chi....

 

Moto, I completely agree. It's a video game, not a religion. I can't think of any character I *hate* from Dragon Age. Though I try to remind myself that the users acting too serious about DA may quite possibly be kids. ("Kids" to me is anyone under the age of 23.) Some people tend to hang onto that 13 year old mentality ten years too late. It's difficult to understand who's actually behind the whining/complaining that seems all too similar to the same griping that spills from a teenager's mouth. In addition to that, maturity levels can, at times, affect one's ability to say, "Meh, it's not real. It's just a game! Time to go pay my bills." 

But of course there *are* immature adults around here too. That's just scary...

Modifié par Trista Hawke, 18 juillet 2013 - 04:38 .


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He's dead, sorry.

(I never actually killed Fenris but bringing back characters who could have died in previous games is a bad idea.) On the bright side if Fenris doesn't show up in the next game maybe they can hire his voice actor for a different role. I hated just about everything about Fenris (contrived angst, anime look, some terribly written dialogue,) but *that voice!*