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#126
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DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Trista Hawke wrote...

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It would only be fair if they cover fate of all companions
or bring them in some sort of cameo. Otherwise it would be unfortunate to
people with other… tastes. 


 

 

There's a lack of DLC for those of us who like the male companions.

They had a follow up DLC all for finding Morrigan.
They had a prequel DLC featuring Leliana. 
They had an entire DLC dedicated to Tallis, as well as Shale.
Those are four female companions. 

Fenris DLC ftw.




Yes but both Oghren, Anders and now Varric got to be in two games as companions. No female companion has ever returned to help us again.


Also there was an entire DLC dedicated to Sebastian Vale.

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No Fenris dlc.
Since Tevinter was mentioned by Bioware in a recent interview , it would be ok for him to be an npc leading a slave rebellion that the Inquisitor interacts with while visiting there.

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Trista Hawke wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

Trista Hawke wrote...

Friera wrote...

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With all this conversation about Fenris now I'm sad again because the Exalted March expansion was cancelled. I'll never get over the fact I could've spent more time with Hawke and her companions but then they decided to focus on DA:I. This game better be good.


I sincerely feel the same way. :( I waited on pins and needles for the expansion. I was absolutely crushed when they announced they were halting all production on DA2 DLC and expansion. I knew that Hawke and Fenris' story was truly over then. All I can hope for is that I'll fall in love with DA:I's characters as much as I did these guys.


Thats sums up my feeling excactly. I was so sad when the DLC was cancelled because I was dying for some Fenris/Hawke action. It´s a shame so many people hated the game.... And my biggest concern is that I won´t like any of the new companions as much. But I did fall in love with Thane in ME as well. So hopefully they make some decent eyecandy awesomeness with sexy dark voice in DA:I.
Rest of DA:I is soo exciting. Unfortunaly I have to be a little obsessive about my characters LI to truly love the game and replay it several times. It was a bummer in ME3 for me...

 

Yeeeeaaahh... I feel you. I could not get into the ME series' companions, playing as a straight female. 

I really would love DA2 dlc regarding Fenris. They halted production, but maybe they'll go back to it after they've released DA:I.


However, I wouldn't mind DA:I dlc for Fenris, even if Hawke's not there.


Why would they release DLC for Dragon Age 2 after Dragon Age: Inquisition is coming out? That really does not make sense

 

Why not? 

Because people will buy it.

If they released more DAO dlc right now, I'd buy that.

Furthermore DAO dlc was released during DA2 development. 


Um....

They are not going to release anymore DLC for DA2 its already been said countless times.   They are focusing on Inquisition. Why cant you be happy about that?? :?

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Angrywolves wrote...

No Fenris dlc.
Since Tevinter was mentioned by Bioware in a recent interview , it would be ok for him to be an npc leading a slave rebellion that the Inquisitor interacts with while visiting there.


I definitely expect him to see him in a cameo in Inquisition.  

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Hopefully David goes to war over getting him some shoes if he does show up.

Some fights need to be fought.

Modifié par devSin, 03 septembre 2013 - 11:33 .


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devSin wrote...

Hopefully David goes to war over getting him some shoes, if he does show up.

Some fights need to be fought.


Yeah the shoeless thing was truly ridiculous

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Still boggles my ****ing mind that people think Fenris is "whiny." He was a slave, he was tortured, abused, sexually assaulted, and physically and psychologically broken. Expecting him to "get over it" in an instant is absurd. Has no one here EVER heard of PTSD?

Selling him back to the person who abused him is pretty sick, especially to enforce some stupid "faustian bargain" as if torturing someone is the lesser evil than breaking a vow that he, according to his writer, did not know would end with him being tortured to the point of trauma induced amnesia. Fenris didn't know what Denarius had in mind for him- that is not a decision made with all facts available, and therefore, has no "bargain" that needs to be enforced.

That said, I'd love to see Fenris again, especially leading a slave rebellion (preferably with my canon Hawke at his side), but I am not getting my hopes up at all. They cancelled any remaining DA2 stuff, so there's no hope there. If he does show up in some capacity in DAI, then that will be great, but I just really don't see it happening.

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d4eaming wrote...

Still boggles my ****ing mind that people think Fenris is "whiny." He was a slave, he was tortured, abused, sexually assaulted, and physically and psychologically broken. Expecting him to "get over it" in an instant is absurd. Has no one here EVER heard of PTSD?


I agree with the entirety of what this guy said. I'd love to see Fenris again. If I had been through what Fenris had, I'd be a nutcase. No bones about it. At least he has the determination to try and get over it, but healing from something like that could never happen. It could take years.

If we do go to Tevinter, I could definitely see him leading an anti-slave rebellion, or something. But since my Hawke romances him (he has me at heart crushing ;)), I could imagine him still being with her. Considering I sided with the mages, and despite murder-knifing Anders in the end... I'm sure some people want her dead :P

I imagine he makes a pretty good body guard. lol

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Melca36 wrote...

Trista Hawke wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

Trista Hawke wrote...

Friera wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Blankeflos wrote...


With all this conversation about Fenris now I'm sad again because the Exalted March expansion was cancelled. I'll never get over the fact I could've spent more time with Hawke and her companions but then they decided to focus on DA:I. This game better be good.


I sincerely feel the same way. :( I waited on pins and needles for the expansion. I was absolutely crushed when they announced they were halting all production on DA2 DLC and expansion. I knew that Hawke and Fenris' story was truly over then. All I can hope for is that I'll fall in love with DA:I's characters as much as I did these guys.


Thats sums up my feeling excactly. I was so sad when the DLC was cancelled because I was dying for some Fenris/Hawke action. It´s a shame so many people hated the game.... And my biggest concern is that I won´t like any of the new companions as much. But I did fall in love with Thane in ME as well. So hopefully they make some decent eyecandy awesomeness with sexy dark voice in DA:I.
Rest of DA:I is soo exciting. Unfortunaly I have to be a little obsessive about my characters LI to truly love the game and replay it several times. It was a bummer in ME3 for me...

 

Yeeeeaaahh... I feel you. I could not get into the ME series' companions, playing as a straight female. 

I really would love DA2 dlc regarding Fenris. They halted production, but maybe they'll go back to it after they've released DA:I.


However, I wouldn't mind DA:I dlc for Fenris, even if Hawke's not there.


Why would they release DLC for Dragon Age 2 after Dragon Age: Inquisition is coming out? That really does not make sense

 

Why not? 

Because people will buy it.

If they released more DAO dlc right now, I'd buy that.

Furthermore DAO dlc was released during DA2 development. 


Um....

They are not going to release anymore DLC for DA2 its already been said countless times.   They are focusing on Inquisition. Why cant you be happy about that?? :?

 

Discussing other DLC's ≠ being unhappy with Inquisition

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Technically I'd prefer a Fenris DLC for Inquisition anyway. ;)

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FeliciaM wrote...

d4eaming wrote...

Still boggles my ****ing mind that people think Fenris is "whiny." He was a slave, he was tortured, abused, sexually assaulted, and physically and psychologically broken. Expecting him to "get over it" in an instant is absurd. Has no one here EVER heard of PTSD?


I agree with the entirety of what this guy said. I'd love to see Fenris again. If I had been through what Fenris had, I'd be a nutcase. No bones about it. At least he has the determination to try and get over it, but healing from something like that could never happen. It could take years.

If we do go to Tevinter, I could definitely see him leading an anti-slave rebellion, or something. But since my Hawke romances him (he has me at heart crushing ;)), I could imagine him still being with her. Considering I sided with the mages, and despite murder-knifing Anders in the end... I'm sure some people want her dead :P

I imagine he makes a pretty good body guard. lol


Fenris' case is something that really speaks to me on a personal level. Not the specifics, but the inability to trust, the avoidance of physical contact, the mental damage he's suffered. I've lived with depression and anxiety my entire life, I HATE people freaking touching me, especially strangers, my ex was manipulative in ways I don't need to discuss here, I have experienced many anxiety and panic attacks in my life that have completely shut me down and made me nonfunctional for an entire day, and being cornered by anyone (even my ex when we were still together) sends me into massive panic mode.

I can totally, totally understand exactly where he is coming from with his fear of mages and magic, with his aversion to touch, and with his inability to develop trust easily. I totally get it. So when I see people calling him whiny, acting like he has nothing to be upset about (because leaving your abuser just magically makes you better the instant you step out the door), it feels almost personal. Fenris is fiction, but he is an exagerated fiction that I can identify with in my mundane life and draw comparisons that, while not exact, are close enough that the criticisms people bring about his personality feel like they could be leveled at people like me.

Try as I might, I just cannot stop my Hawke from romancing him, because his character resonates so strongly with me.

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d4eaming wrote...

Still boggles my ****ing mind that people think Fenris is "whiny." He was a slave, he was tortured, abused, sexually assaulted, and physically and psychologically broken. Expecting him to "get over it" in an instant is absurd. Has no one here EVER heard of PTSD?

Selling him back to the person who abused him is pretty sick, especially to enforce some stupid "faustian bargain" as if torturing someone is the lesser evil than breaking a vow that he, according to his writer, did not know would end with him being tortured to the point of trauma induced amnesia. Fenris didn't know what Denarius had in mind for him- that is not a decision made with all facts available, and therefore, has no "bargain" that needs to be enforced.

That said, I'd love to see Fenris again, especially leading a slave rebellion (preferably with my canon Hawke at his side), but I am not getting my hopes up at all. They cancelled any remaining DA2 stuff, so there's no hope there. If he does show up in some capacity in DAI, then that will be great, but I just really don't see it happening.


This is my sentiment exactly. As I posted earlier in another thread, I saw a poll here on BSN about which was the better elf romance, Zevran or Fenris, and the amount of complaining in the comment section about Fenris was overwhelming. I was truly confounded how people could, while being aware of his background, call Fenris whiny? Do they lack empathy so greatly that it is impossible to imagine, to truly picture in your minds eye meeting someone who tells you he's on the run from a man who for the last many years has, as you said yourself, held him as a slave, tortured, abused, sexually assaulted, and physically and psychologically broken him and who now has made it his personal vendetta to either kill him or worse? Do people really have that hard a time seeing the man before them, telling you his story and asking you for help, that they aren't able to feel any shred of sympathy for him not to mention the burning injustice it is?

To me he was the first of the characters in DA2 I truly felt compelled to keep in my party. And no, it wasn't his looks that swayed me; I was less than fond of his features at first (I actually looked around a bit for a mod to make him look less elvish - thank the Maker I didn't find one). But his whole backstory and the concept of helping out someone who was desperately in need of aid to save his life greatly appealed to me and made me decide there and then that I wanted him as around as a companion. Don't get me wrong, I loved helping Varric with the Deep Roads expedition and aiding Aveline at her flailing attempts at wooing Donnic but this Fenris fellow, he had actual slavers on his heels trying to capture him in the -Free Marches-? And no one to stand by his side and take up arms against this appaling injustice? Oh the irony. How could I ever look myself in the mirror if I did not pick up my staff and lend him my powers?

Personally, I don't think we'll see Fenris again. I'd love for him to lead the slaves of Tevinter in an uprising against the Magisters (preferably aided by the less power hungry among them - yes they DO exist, magic user != blood magic wielding, abusive bastard) but I don't think he'll do that outside my head canon. If we get to have a cameo, I hope we hear more about how he's come to terms with his past - it's been a long time after all - and hopefully his sister, too. 

Modifié par dracuella, 04 septembre 2013 - 06:12 .


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Considering the number of people that consider real world mental health issues as "whining", it's really not surprising. I can explain over and over what a panic attack feels like, and explain that it's not caused by any one specific thing, and people will still go on about how you just need to talk yourself out of it and think about rainbows and kittens and it'll magically go away. Considering that, during a panic attack, just being able to stand up and breathe is nigh impossible- no, thinking about rainbows and kittens does absolute **** for making a panic attack "go away."

Yes, a great deal of people have no ability to emphathise with anyone around them. Those people are the ones that think admitting to any kind of pain, for any reason, is "whining." Then again, I don't value stoicism one whit.

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dragondreamer wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...


Yeah, I agree that Fenris would leave if he felt he was endangering Hawke (or if he and FemHawke had a child and the child were endangered, GOSH). 


I think my Lady Hawke would have even more reason to hunt him down under those circumstances, lol.  Nope, you're not getting off the hook that easily, elf boy!

Another possibility is that Hawke might be the one who's disappeared mysteriously (just like the Warden, etc), and Fenris needs help looking for him.


Hey that is my fanfic and the baby daddy is Anders! :P

Fanfight!!! :devil:

Nah Fenris return would be cool. His voice is like chocolate, can never have enough. And he is hot err.. a very well writen caracter.. right.. the writing is what draws me to him.. For science! :innocent:

Another "Lyrium boy" this time evil could be cool, as well, no ? More tight black armor and glowy tattoos is.. very good writing! :police:

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I, personally, would really, really, REALLY like to see Fenris again.

Will it happen? Don't know.

If we do see him again, I would like him to mention Hawke, especially if they were LI's.

It was a little niggle of mine in DA:II that when we saw Zevran he didn't mention the Warden, even if they were in a romance. I'd like a bit of continuity here.

Also, Varric and Fenris reunion - bwahahahaha!

Modifié par Tashash, 04 septembre 2013 - 07:52 .


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I agree, some people are pretty much cold and have no ability to empathize with anyone who isn't them. Plus I'm sure his opiniosn made it worse.  I loved the Fenris character. I actually didn't like him when I first met him but he was , imo, the only one speaking any type of common sense in that hot mess Kirkwall. I like to think that he and my Hawke have long since left Kirkwall and is vacationing somewhere nice, far away from fade tears and mage drama. B)

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He's a hypocrite, plain and simple.

He was a slave, and even if you only act like you're dealing with slavers (to trick them), he's mad at you.
He's okay with other people being slaves just because they're mages (well, Tranquility is even worse tbh), he hates an entire race of people just because they're born different and have abilities that "could" be used for bad stuff (just like anybody can use a sword to commit evil deeds).

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I never got Fenris, the quest he appeared in didn't seem like something my Hawke would have done.

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I actually found Fenris to be the very least interesting character in DA2 and I don't really care what he does. I actually hated Anders a lot more than Fenris, but I regard that as an indication of how good a character he was -- just one that I had a negative reaction to.

I'd like to know where everyone else went, though, especially Isabela, Merrill, Varric, Aveline, and your sibling (if they survive -- in my case, Bethany).

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Don't get your hopes up.

Judging from both DA2's plot as well as its DLCs, Fenris and Merrill are the companions BioWare pay the least amount of attention to.

That's sad.
I find Merrill incredibly endearing and lovable.

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Tashash wrote...

It was a little niggle of mine in DA:II that when we saw Zevran he didn't mention the Warden, even if they were in a romance. I'd like a bit of continuity here.

Wasn't that an import flag bug?

FearaNightmare wrote...

I Personally hope that Fenris comes back, I thought not just his character but his background were really good. Also with his Lyrium tattoo's he does seem a bit more... Intriguing then some of the other characters. That also might become something important in the next one. ah~ I really hope he comes back as a companion... if he doesn't I will cry. Image IPB  

I love Fenris but prepare to cry mate, he is not coming back as a DA:I companion I can pretty much guarantee it

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I hope not. Fenris was easily the worst and most annoying companion, IMO. I hated almost everything about him, from his silly appearance to his annoying and grating personality.

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Hey, hey, guys, c'mon now, I liked Fenris, he was a swell fella once you got into his soft innards. Cool chap, loyal and whatnot.
Anders on the other hand...

Besides all of that though, the game is looking fantastic as it is and I have complete confidence in Bioware; they've been doing a really great job. But the game, I'm afraid, will never be perfect unless I get to see Sten again.

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Odds are good that there will be a Fenris cameo, at least. Odds are good that it will be as meaningless as Zevran's, but thanks to the Keep, the flags will be set properly, so he'll gush gratifyingly about your Hawke.

Which is kinda disappointing, at least to me. If the LI cameos are nothing more than opportunities for the character to show up and wave to his or her fans, why are they even there? Speaking only for myself, I neither need nor want that kind of attention.

It's different if the character has some kind of meaningful role to play in the next game like the female LI's all seem to get, but the male LI's (with the exception of Anders) tend to get pushed into multiple-ending purgatory or obscurity, so writing them into future games in any kind of meaningful capacity just doesn't happen.

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Eh, I could care less about Fenris since I never liked him and, at some point, simply stopped recruiting him, but I can understand the desire to see what became of the important people in your PC's life.

The only two people I'd really love to see in DA:I are Anora and Loghain. Anora because my Warden married her (although I'm worried the game will only recognize it as a political marriage instead of my Warden actually being in love with her like I role-played it) and because she's the Queen of Ferelden and Loghain because he's a) an awesome character I didn't get to spend enough time with and B) my Warden's father-in-law.

Modifié par Blackrising, 04 septembre 2013 - 12:50 .