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Next Mass Effect: "Sh**t's gettin' real"


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#101
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I want more focus on romances and more shooting variety, also less talky more action? Something like GOW3, the perfect blend of RPG and 3rd person cover shooting.

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I'm rather cautious about this. I just hope they abandon the current trainwreck of a storyline and start with a new one, or do a reboot. Easter eggs or shout-outs to ME1-3 is fine.

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I would get more excited if they could present us with some kind of idea what they are planing. The silence is understandable if they don't know what to tell people sicne they arn't sure themselves as of yet.

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Good to know they're having fun over in Montreal. Wish I could say the same about my job. :P

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RadicalDisconnect wrote...

I'm rather cautious about this. I just hope they abandon the current trainwreck of a storyline and start with a new one, or do a reboot. Easter eggs or shout-outs to ME1-3 is fine.


Since there's no possible ending where the Reapers are still a threat -- unless you count Refuse -- I think starting a new storyline is a given.

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Wolfva2 wrote...

iakus wrote...

Wolfva2 wrote...

Well, I would write something about how great it is they're feeling positive about what's going on. I'd be interested in the lively discussion we could have had. But, saddly, the haters got here first and have already killed the thread with their doom and gloom. So, congrats guys! I know that's why you're here, to try to ruin any possiblity of ANYONE having fun just because you don't like something. I know how offended you are at the mere possibility that people might be different then you, or like something you don't. I understand how much you hate diversity in tastes, and all that. So good going. They oughta do a 'Real Men of Genius' commercial for you guys.

DOOOOOM!!!!! GLOOOOOOooooOOOOOMMMMM!!!!


Yeah it's not like a bunch of us weren't burned last time by overdone hype or anything.  And now we're far more cautious and cynical this time around when we see the exact same freaking pattern starting all over again.  




Sheesh, a couple of employees are excited at the work theyr'e doing and YOU want to chalk it up to some calculated marketing project.   How DARE someone be excited at the work they're doing!  Those CADS!  Burning is to good for them!  Hangin is to good for 'em!  Right?

So.  You got burned by hype.  Oh, I am SO.  SORRY.  You poor poor darling.  I wasn't aware that hype was some sort of force of nature that you were powerless against.  Now you're cautious and cynical. Well, congratulations!  You've FINALLY grown up!  You should be cautious and cynical about EVERYTHING.  Not just a game.  When Tide releases their umpteenth 'NEW AND IMPROVED!!!' formula, you should be cautious and cynical.  When Miller lite says it Tastes GREAT! but is less filling?  Be cynical and cautious (tastes great my Portuguese French Canadian arse....). 

My advice to you, and the other haters is to just not buy the next game.  NOTE:  I am not 'TELLING' you what to do.  I'm just offering you some free advice.  Don't buy the next game.  Because you WILL hate it.  And you'll be here for years afterwards complaining about how much you hate it, and how bad they suck because they didn't create the game specifically for YOU PERSONALLY, and you'll get even more offended when people like me pop up and mutter about how childish you're being whining and kvetching incessantly about something you should have simply avoided in the first place.


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UnbendingNoseReal wrote...

Just like BF4, EA encourages more freaking hype. I wish Bioware would take the Valve HL3 approach. Dead silence, hype it with silence but here they are screaming at the top of their lungs, "OH S&*$, watch out, here we come, everyone get excited!" Stop it Bioward, stop it. Please :/


Yes, years of slience about a game is sooooooo much better!  Rockstar did the same thing with GTA5 and boy was that.......frustrating!!! 

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Makai81 wrote...

UnbendingNoseReal wrote...

Just like BF4, EA encourages more freaking hype. I wish Bioware would take the Valve HL3 approach. Dead silence, hype it with silence but here they are screaming at the top of their lungs, "OH S&*$, watch out, here we come, everyone get excited!" Stop it Bioward, stop it. Please :/


Yes, years of slience about a game is sooooooo much better!  Rockstar did the same thing with GTA5 and boy was that.......frustrating!!! 


Most importantly, by doing this, valve and rockstar were not bound my the statements they made.

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The next Mass Effect will completely revamp the whole series.
It will have spectacular graphics, it will be in first person, have no branching dialogue, and it will take place in the past.
Also, it has been renamed to Battlefield 4.

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Not interested in prequels where the end result is already a known factor.

The only way ME4 can be viable is if it continues after ME3 with a Leviathan storyline, feature Shepard in a non-player capacity and Bioware confirms Control and Synthesis to be indoctrinated endings and give everyone a big "Ha Ha Gotcha!! Destroy was the only real choice". Refuse isn't even worth mentioning as it's clearly an afterthought insult to certain people.

Otherwise the series is already dead. To try and continue this train wreck could only go the way of the pre-Nolan Batman movies, getting progressively more and more idiotic. If they continue as if the current consensus of Shepard's story's conclusion is acceptable I would never buy another ME, much as another Bioware game. Hell, I won't even buy an EA game. I only play EvE Online these days,

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elrofrost wrote...

It all depends on the next DA. Which we already know will be out before the next ME. If DA lives up to it's hype (and hope) then I won't have any issues putting Bioware back on my auto-buy list.

I love both the DA and ME universes.So I hope Bioware can pull it out of their a**.


Different writers.

Same liars.

DA3's theoretical  success will be no indicator as to how Walters will continue to ruin the ME franchise.

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The Twilight God wrote...

Not interested in prequels where the end result is already a known factor.

The only way ME4 can be viable is if it continues after ME3 with a Leviathan storyline, feature Shepard in a non-player capacity and Bioware confirms Control and Synthesis to be indoctrinated endings and give everyone a big "Ha Ha Gotcha!! Destroy was the only real choice". Refuse isn't even worth mentioning as it's clearly an afterthought insult to certain people.

Otherwise the series is already dead. To try and continue this train wreck could only go the way of the pre-Nolan Batman movies, getting progressively more and more idiotic. If they continue as if the current consensus of Shepard's story's conclusion is acceptable I would never buy another ME, much as another Bioware game. Hell, I won't even buy an EA game. I only play EvE Online these days,


Gee, that sounds like a perfectly reasonable and rational approach.  "Give me everything I want and nothing I don't, to hell with anyone else, OR I'M DONE WITH YOU BIOWARE!!!!11!!!"

I'll save you the time and tell you right now you're NEVER going to get what you want.  So you might as well walk away now.

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What Chemlord said. You will not like the next game. Unless BW contacted you and asked you for specifics that YOu would want, and then designed the game exactly along those specifications. I'm assuming they haven't? If not, you won't like it. So. You have a choice. Should you buy something you won't like? Or should you buy it then complain and complain about it for years on end?

I know what I'd do. I'd simply not buy it. I don't believe in wasting my money on things I don't like. Instead, I'd go do something else I enjoyed. It would relax me, make me happy, and probably reduce stress levels. Saddly, I have a pretty good idea what you will do. You'll continue complaining about how bad the games have been, how horrible the writers are, and how terrible a company BW/EA is. You'll buy the next game, and you'll continue to complain about it being a trainwreck; you'll be indignant that they made such a horrible game (because, after all, anything that YOU don't like NO ONE likes so it MUST be horrible and every single person agrees...except those blind fanboiz who blindly support BW no matter how horrible the game is because they're just to stupid to know feces when they're stepping in it...). You will be highly offended whenever anyone mentions they DO like the game, and will do your best to derail every positive thread by posting basically the same rant over and over again. "WHAT?!? How can you like this POS! IT"S A TRAIINNNNWRECK!!!!" Then, whenever anyone tells you to chill, you'll launch into an agry tirade about how you have ever right to YOUR opinion and how dare ANYONE tell you you can't spout it (even though no one did) ending with your demand for those who disagree to just shut up (in other words, doing exactly what you falsely claim they're doing).

What can I say? I learn from history. And historically, on every game sequel forum, this is the formulae so many haters take. Feel free to prove me wrong though by doing none of that stuff.

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Hmm... I want to know what they mean by that! Hopefully, it doesn't mean that the enemy is much more uber powerful, compared to reapers... If it does, well, I'll still buy it... I trust Bioware with creating interesting NPCs, anyway... and the universe is fun... and they do, in my opinion, improve gameplay as they go along, so I want to try what they will improve!

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chemiclord wrote...

Gee, that sounds like a perfectly reasonable and rational approach.  "Give me everything I want and nothing I don't, to hell with anyone else, OR I'M DONE WITH YOU BIOWARE!!!!11!!!"

I'll save you the time and tell you right now you're NEVER going to get what you want.  So you might as well walk away now.


Reductio ad absurdum

So.  Much .  Absurdum.

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The Twilight God wrote...

Not interested in prequels where the end result is already a known factor.

The only way ME4 can be viable is if it continues after ME3 with a Leviathan storyline, feature Shepard in a non-player capacity and Bioware confirms Control and Synthesis to be indoctrinated endings and give everyone a big "Ha Ha Gotcha!! Destroy was the only real choice". Refuse isn't even worth mentioning as it's clearly an afterthought insult to certain people.



Mmmm... the tears from "deception"-nonsense fans are the best kind! I eat 'em up like, OM NOM NOM NOM NOM!!

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Don't knock reducio ad absurdem. It serves a purpose; mainly to point out the absurdity of one's argument by reducing it to it's most absurd.

Well, it's either that, or it's a particularily nasty trick Harry played on Ron the night he and Hermione were going to finally go all the way.....

Modifié par Wolfva2, 23 juillet 2013 - 05:52 .


#118
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iakus wrote...

Reductio ad absurdum

So.  Much .  Absurdum.


Nope.  I'd advise you to read his post again.  That is pretty much EXACTLY what he is demanding; that all other endings but his chosen one be rejected, that IT be confirmed, and if those demands are not met that he'll *gasp* not buy the game!

Which is fine, I suppose.  But why waste time waiting to see when I can tell him right now that his demands will not be met?

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iakus wrote...

chemiclord wrote...

Gee, that sounds like a perfectly reasonable and rational approach.  "Give me everything I want and nothing I don't, to hell with anyone else, OR I'M DONE WITH YOU BIOWARE!!!!11!!!"

I'll save you the time and tell you right now you're NEVER going to get what you want.  So you might as well walk away now.


Reductio ad absurdum

So.  Much .  Absurdum.


You did read The Twilight God's post, right? I think chemiclord got it about right.

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wow, still arguing in this forum...

if bioware has to close their business someday, they will always be remembered for the ****storm they let loose!

If it is a sequel ill have a look at some (fan)reviews, if its a prequel im moving on. Cant even play the first games anymore. The phrase "doesnt matter" voiced by the starbrat is too often in my head, when i accomplished something in the game...

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Uh...how exactly does Chemic's post even apply? If I dislike prequels and Bioware is making a prequel (all hypothetical) why exactly should I

• not express my discontent
• not vote with my wallet and not buy the game

I mean twilight is going a little too far but are we not entitled to have a checklist of deal breakers for the next game? And if those ARE his deal breakers and he does not buy the game then what exactly is wrong with that?

I have my list of deal breakers too regarding the next Mass Effect, they are not as strict but I have such list for any title I buy

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I agree about the prequel being a deal breaker. Neither a recount of codex history or a pre-reaper war spinoff hold a great deal of value for me, as both will always have a lingering doom written all over them, whether the writers address it or not. Refusal to move forward would be, in my opinion, a huge mistake. A spinoff that runs parallel to the timeline of Shepard would just be tantamount to an expensive expansion pack story for the original game.

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Same old story.

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If that pic is any indication of what is forthcoming, then we have more Reaper fun to look forward to. Oh joy. I anticipate a prequel or the canonization of synthesis, but the former is likely the safe bet.

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I imagine canonizing synthesis would be the opposite of being friendly to old and new players.