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The Arc Pistol is better than the Black Widow [Video]


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krjn_09 wrote...

I was there!

reply to me pls


You were there and it was :wub:


capn233 wrote...

Changed the title for more views?

Black Widow is better on weapon classes, especially if they have sniper or rate of fire bonuses.


Yes, to attract more viewers and to share that info.
And yes, that's absolutely correct.

Striker93175 wrote...

TL;DR. But I agree. I actually use it on my MQI exclusively. Charge mechanic with cloak and tactscan just synergizes so nice. Charge, cloak, tact scan, fire. Pow 1 hit a gold ravanger. 1-2 hit a brute. The fact it bypasses shieldgate is nice too.


Added tl;dr. Haven't tried it on him yet, because I usually run the Venom on that guy :wub:

Magniflyer wrote...

 Great job, Max. Would love to see it in action.

But still,

Image IPB


:P:P


Lol great GIF, I felt so stupid, that must be one of the weirdest walls to shoot through, especially after shooting through it a few seconds before that (here) - I have the same issue with the Javelin.
Oh, and feel free to send me a FR on XBL:wizard:

Modifié par Max Dmian, 23 juillet 2013 - 10:35 .


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MasterReefa wrote...

Ronnie is going to come in here and go off on you Max. :lol:


M1A2 Abrams Tank wrote...

Only if a theres a discussion about ammo powers and AP ammo being good.


Would love to see both B)


fulcrum290 wrote...

Black Widow is for scrubs who can't aim.


"Any retard can use the Black Widow" - the one and only


joker_jack wrote...

I'll stick with executioner pistol.


Another great, underappreciated weapon.

rusty221 wrote...

The Turian sentinel can make any weapon great, but for what its worth I'm really enjoying using him with an arc pistol. Thanks for the tip!


Very true, TSent is a beast. And glad to be of service :wizard:

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Better than the Black Widow, the queen of snipers? Blasphemy!

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

What a surprise.
The truth is the Black Widow isn't that good at all on non-Infiltrators.


But it is.
Still, most people don't know how powerful the Arc Pistol really is.


The Krauser wrote...

I don't think my finger can keep up with the kind of flow the arc pistol requires unless I have some caffinated beverage.


Just keep trying and you will see the light :wizard:


KroGan_eRRanT wrote...

I approve of the title change. The BW is even more overrated than the Claymore. Arc Pistol is one of the best weapon in the game.


I knew I could count on you ;)


Cirvante wrote...

Works well. But pugs are bad and should feel bad.


Livin' the pug life B)


Maverick DW wrote...

thanks for the built. it is awesome. but i couldn't feel my finger afterward...please fix it (jk)


Glad you like it! 
Well, I play the guitar, maybe that's why I don't have any problems with charge weapons B)


Maurader Sackboy wrote...

Impressive shooting in the videos! Tried the T.Sentinel again with the arc pistol and did nowhere near as good! Makes me think the strength is in the player here, not the weapon. I think the OP would probably do as well with the Talon (or, just about any other weapon!)


Thank you. It gets better with practice. And if I'd do well with the Talon it's because the Talon is one of the best, possibly even the best weapon in the game :wizard:

Modifié par Max Dmian, 23 juillet 2013 - 10:41 .


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M1A2 Abrams Tank wrote...

Ima be that guy, and say I liked the Arc pistol before it was cool or recognized :3

Every time I see a pug use the Arc pistol they never charge it, always a rapid fire it and I die inside.
Good one Max for showing BSN that the Arc pistol is BOSS.


I was waiting for you to join in :P
Yes, you're running it since forever. My initial inspiration was seeing Richter Harken run with it, and that was before the buff. Haha, that's one of the reasons I made this thread. No rapid firing anymore :wizard:


VoidNeXus 000 wrote...

Damn.

Nice vid


Thanks man. Hope you approve of the new title :whistle:

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Great video and great guide. I didn't know that charged shots break shieldgate, so no more Disruptor ammo for my Arc Pistol.

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I second this, since I can't aim a sniper rifle for gods sake this pistol is like a god send to me and I find myself continuously head shotting when I'f I had a black widow I would be missing all the time.

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Jaun Shepard wrote...

I second this, since I can't aim a sniper rifle for gods sake this pistol is like a god send to me and I find myself continuously head shotting when I'f I had a black widow I would be missing all the time.

Honestly I find it harder to aim holding left mouse than to aim and briefly click, or click for a quarter second.  But it isn't rocket surgery or anything.

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quick question; out of curiousity wouldn't wrap ammo be better since you have wrap? also would the trauma system heavy pistol mod be better than the weapon damage mod you used since most of your shots were aimed at the head?

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ToLazy4Name wrote...

I'm definitely going to try it next time I get on ME3 (Which probably won't be a while, because I recently bought the Dark Souls DLC and have been playing it for three days straight).


Good on you. Dark Souls is awesome. Except for the PvP. Too laggy for the quick-reactions it requires. Nothing quite like having a player backstab you through your front. Kalameet and Artorias the Abysswalker are pretty damn insane one on one.


But yeah, OT: Nice vid, even though I didn't watch. Still don't care about the Arc Pistol.

Modifié par oO Stryfe Oo, 23 juillet 2013 - 06:00 .


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Yo Son wrote...

quick question; out of curiousity wouldn't wrap ammo be better since you have wrap? also would the trauma system heavy pistol mod be better than the weapon damage mod you used since most of your shots were aimed at the head?

You don't have any cover penetration that way, unless you also take a piercing mod on the pistol  That might make dealing with the occaisional armored Cannibal, Guardians, and Brutes a little more annoying.

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Tried this out OP
It was fun, did get the 20 headshots medal
but also got crushed by phantoms (which normally doesn't happen when I use an AR on the Tsent)
But then its the first time I really tried the Arc pistol out like this so I'll practice some more
thanks for the advice and vids

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Cirvante wrote...

One thing I love about him is that he is equally good against every faction. He can stagger, he can stun, he can strip shields, he can weaken armor and debuff and his passives make him a superior weapon platform.


QFT

kaxas92 wrote...

Better than the Black Widow, the queen of snipers? Blasphemy!


Yes B)

Hendrix137 wrote...

Great video and great guide. I didn't know that charged shots break shieldgate, so no more Disruptor ammo for my Arc Pistol.


Thanks Hendrix, glad to hear you like it:wizard:

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capn233 wrote...

Yo Son wrote...

quick question; out of curiousity wouldn't wrap ammo be better since you have wrap? also would the trauma system heavy pistol mod be better than the weapon damage mod you used since most of your shots were aimed at the head?

You don't have any cover penetration that way, unless you also take a piercing mod on the pistol  That might make dealing with the occaisional armored Cannibal, Guardians, and Brutes a little more annoying.


This. It's a build optimal for Gold and Plat. You'll need AP IV for double/triple hit bugs, e.g. you won't get those on an Atlas without it.


Jaun Shepard wrote...

I second this, since I can't aim a sniper rifle for gods sake this pistol is like a god send to me and I find myself continuously head shotting when I'f I had a black widow I would be missing all the time.



Arc Pistol :wub:


modok8 wrote...

Tried this out OP 
It was fun, did get the 20 headshots medal
but also got crushed by phantoms (which normally doesn't happen when I use an AR on the Tsent)
But then its the first time I really tried the Arc pistol out like this so I'll practice some more
thanks for the advice and vids


Glad to be of help :wizard:
Just keep trying, Phantoms are always annoying. I always start with an Overload and try to go for a headshot. If they get too close - TECH ARMOUR. Keep casting Overload until Barriers are down, then it's easy.

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Max, have you tried QMI with the Arc Pistol? Charge>Cloak>Tac-Scan then release the charge in the middle of Tac-Scan.

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This build (OP) is awesome - played it tonight. It's very playable even after several beers, possibly even improved. (....hic!)

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OK, so I tried out the Arc Pistol on the TSent last night.  I tried it on Silver, because I'm not really good at aiming charge weapons, and I didn't want to be a drag if I sucked with it on Gold.  I did get top score, and it worked really, really well - actually it was much easier to get used to than I thought it would be.  My only issue is that I use the same finger for shooting and Overload (right bumper - XBox), so I had to keep using my right thumb to hit the Overload button.  This made me slower, and I needed to stand out of cover for longer in order to line up my shots. 

So I'm now sort of a fan of the Arc Pistol - although I'm worried that my slowness on the trigger will hurt me on Gold.  I'll give it a try this weekend.

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Max Dmian said " - but in capable hands the Arc Pistol will destroy."

Perhaps my hand aren't as capable as yours. But I get it - gave it a whirl yesterday - most impressive most impressive. Love the build now I know why I dig Tsents - Thanks bro :D

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Most impressive

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Had a lot of fun with it, very good weapon indeed, I had no idea about the charge mechanics of it. Thx for the tips.
It's more versatile than a BW cause you you don't need to overkill so much.

Modifié par Ximlab, 25 juillet 2013 - 06:42 .


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Okay, I take back everything I said, the Arc Pistol is great in the right hands (and on the right kit).

As I see it, it needs two things to work really well:
-something to strip shields/barriers
-headshots.

It's really easy to get headshots with the AP so that's ticked, but I'm not sure if it works equally well on characters that have no means to deplete enemy protections. I'll keep experimenting.

Is Phasic ammo okay on this weapon?

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kaxas92 wrote...

Is Phasic ammo okay on this weapon?

For targets with shields or barriers, yes. ;)

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Forreal Max, it's tiring trying to keep up to your Arc pistol builds.

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Nice vid. I've always enjoyed the Arc Pistol but I won't lie...I hardly ever use it. It's nice to visually see what it's capable of in the right hands.

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Sorry it took me so long, didn't see all the replies until now.

M1A2 Abrams Tank wrote...

Max, have you tried QMI with the Arc Pistol? Charge>Cloak>Tac-Scan then release the charge in the middle of Tac-Scan.


Yes, I have tried that after you posted it here. Really, really fun - OHK everything B)

Gr1ng0 wrote...

This build (OP) is awesome - played it tonight. It's very playable even after several beers, possibly even improved. (....hic!)


Haha, I can attest to the fact :wizard:
Glad you like it!


Miniditka77 wrote...

OK, so I tried out the Arc Pistol on the TSent last night.  I tried it on Silver, because I'm not really good at aiming charge weapons, and I didn't want to be a drag if I sucked with it on Gold.  I did get top score, and it worked really, really well - actually it was much easier to get used to than I thought it would be.  My only issue is that I use the same finger for shooting and Overload (right bumper - XBox), so I had to keep using my right thumb to hit the Overload button.  This made me slower, and I needed to stand out of cover for longer in order to line up my shots. 

So I'm now sort of a fan of the Arc Pistol - although I'm worried that my slowness on the trigger will hurt me on Gold.  I'll give it a try this weekend.


I use my index fingers for the bumpers and the middle fingers for the triggers because of that - have you tried that?
And it's great that you found some love for the Arc Pistol - you'll get used to it :happy:


bob e sardaukar wrote...

Max Dmian said " - but in capable hands the Arc Pistol will destroy."

Perhaps my hand aren't as capable as yours. But I get it - gave it a whirl yesterday - most impressive most impressive. Love the build now I know why I dig Tsents - Thanks bro :D


You're welcome! It's just practice, the kills will follow :ph34r:

Tonymac wrote...

Most impressive


Merci.


Ximlab wrote...

Had a lot of fun with it, very good weapon indeed, I had no idea about the charge mechanics of it. Thx for the tips.
It's more versatile than a BW cause you you don't need to overkill so much.


A lot of people don't know about its potential, that's why I thought it might be a good time to share corlist's results again. Happy to share.