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[AutumnWitch]

I was playing DA 2 last night and was at the part when Anders is trying to romance. Once thing I didn't like was I had to either flirt back or be really rude in telling him that I was not interested, which of course results in him being really indignant and a -10 in friendship. (this is one of many of these situations in DA2 and DAO)

It would be nice to be able to be "polite" when a companion tries to flirt. For example to be able to say something like "I am flattered and I like you too but I am sorry I am not into you that way"...or "I am flattered but I am already taken." or "I don't like men that way.."  because even in the game I liked Anders but my PC was already in a LTR with someone,.

Anyway, I know it's not a big thing but maybe if we had that option we wouldn't have to take a -10 hit in friendship.

~A

[Mike 9987]

People generally don't like it when you reject them. Regardless on how polite you are.

[wright1978]

Mike 9987 wrote...

People generally don't like it when you reject them. Regardless on how polite you are.

Yeah even if rejection is polite i can't see the character not taking a hit in friendship at the rejection.

[duckley]

Mike 9987 wrote...

People generally don't like it when you reject them. Regardless on how polite you are.

True ... but maybe a minus 5 verusus 10 - or allow some variance in between

-25 - No way - you pervert loser
-15 - If you were good-looking .... maybe
-10 - Is not you, its me
-5 - I am flattered but...

you get the idea

[AutumnWitch]

wright1978 wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

People generally don't like it when you reject them. Regardless on how polite you are.

Yeah even if rejection is polite i can't see the character not taking a hit in friendship at the rejection.

I totally agree but if I chatted someone up and they told me there were "in a LTR" as opposed to "I DONT WANT YOU THINKING ABOUT ME THAT WAY!"  I would still be hurt but I would understand. The latter is just beaing mean. 

[Catroi]

I'd like a "you and me, we play in the same team" answer guys like that so +10 friendship and no grumpy companion

[AutumnWitch]

duckley wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

People generally don't like it when you reject them. Regardless on how polite you are.

True ... but maybe a minus 5 verusus 10 - or allow some variance in between

-25 - No way - you pervert loser
-15 - If you were good-looking .... maybe
-10 - Is not you, its me
-5 - I am flattered but...

you get the idea

perfect! (and they need to work on their chat up lines as well.)

[Bionuts]

If you get to that point it's because you were heavily flirting with him in the first place.

[AutumnWitch]

Bionuts wrote...

If you get to that point it's because you were heavily flirting with him in the first place.

No you don't..I NEVER flirt with any of the men and Anders always backs me into that corner just cuz I help him with his silly plans....but I never once flirt with him.

[ScarMK]

Bionuts wrote...

If you get to that point it's because you were heavily flirting with him in the first place.

You don't have to flirt with him, just pick any option other than aggresive.

[Iakus]

Bionuts wrote...

If you get to that point it's because you were heavily flirting with him in the first place.

Nope.  You get to that point if you used any tone but agressive with him.  No flirting necessary.

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Modifié par iakus, 20 juillet 2013 - 07:27 .

[CuriousArtemis]

duckley wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

People generally don't like it when you reject them. Regardless on how polite you are.

True ... but maybe a minus 5 verusus 10 - or allow some variance in between

-25 - No way - you pervert loser
-15 - If you were good-looking .... maybe
-10 - Is not you, its me
-5 - I am flattered but...

you get the idea

Yeah this would have been perfect!

[Bionuts]

ScarMK wrote...

Bionuts wrote...

If you get to that point it's because you were heavily flirting with him in the first place.

You don't have to flirt with him, just pick any option other than aggresive.

you sure? Never happened to me

[Plaintiff]

As usual, when this topic comes up, people are grossly overstating the issue.

You can avoid both romance and Rivalry points easily, as demonstrated by this video here. Or you could just flirt the one time and never follow it up, he doesn't pursue you.

And as this video demonstrates, Hawke's rejection isn't that harsh anyway.

He says "Let's not speak of this again."

Anders replies with "Fine, I hear you, strictly professional."

No exclamations of disgust, no insults. None of the violence that I've heard straight men claim they would use if a gay guy ever made a pass at them.

Hell, Hawke is downright polite. Rejection is never nice, I don't know what more anyone can expect.

[AutumnWitch]

Plaintiff wrote...

As usual, when this topic comes up, people are grossly overstating the issue.

You can avoid both romance and Rivalry points easily, as demonstrated by this video here. Or you could just flirt the one time and never follow it up, he doesn't pursue you.

And as this video demonstrates, Hawke's rejection isn't that harsh anyway.

He says "Let's not speak of this again."

Anders replies with "Fine, I hear you, strictly professional."

No exclamations of disgust, no insults. None of the violence that I've heard straight men claim they would use if a gay guy ever made a pass at them.

Hell, Hawke is downright polite. Rejection is never nice, I don't know what more anyone can expect.

Regardless of this post, no matter how I play it (if I am being nice and a mage and female) he ALWAYS gives me an option that I have no way out of without him being visably upset.

[Plaintiff]

AutumnWitch wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

As usual, when this topic comes up, people are grossly overstating the issue.

You can avoid both romance and Rivalry points easily, as demonstrated by this video here. Or you could just flirt the one time and never follow it up, he doesn't pursue you.

And as this video demonstrates, Hawke's rejection isn't that harsh anyway.

He says "Let's not speak of this again."

Anders replies with "Fine, I hear you, strictly professional."

No exclamations of disgust, no insults. None of the violence that I've heard straight men claim they would use if a gay guy ever made a pass at them.

Hell, Hawke is downright polite. Rejection is never nice, I don't know what more anyone can expect.

Regardless of this post, no matter how I play it (if I am being nice and a mage and female) he ALWAYS gives me an option that I have no way out of without him being visably upset.

So? Why should you get to control how Anders reacts. Even if you thought the rejection option was "polite enough" for your personal tastes, there is every possibility that Anders would still respond negatively, because being rejected sucks, and it doesn't matter how it happens.

[Volus Warlord]

Plaintiff wrote...

AutumnWitch wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

As usual, when this topic comes up, people are grossly overstating the issue.

You can avoid both romance and Rivalry points easily, as demonstrated by this video here. Or you could just flirt the one time and never follow it up, he doesn't pursue you.

And as this video demonstrates, Hawke's rejection isn't that harsh anyway.

He says "Let's not speak of this again."

Anders replies with "Fine, I hear you, strictly professional."

No exclamations of disgust, no insults. None of the violence that I've heard straight men claim they would use if a gay guy ever made a pass at them.

Hell, Hawke is downright polite. Rejection is never nice, I don't know what more anyone can expect.

Regardless of this post, no matter how I play it (if I am being nice and a mage and female) he ALWAYS gives me an option that I have no way out of without him being visably upset.

So? Why should you get to control how Anders reacts. Even if you thought the rejection option was "polite enough" for your personal tastes, there is every possibility that Anders would still respond negatively, because being rejected sucks, and it doesn't matter how it happens.

But I want to reject his idiocy in a way that yields a stronger negative reaction. Like him threatening to leave the group or threatening to kill me, so I have an excuse to kill him with plausible deniability.

Now that I think about it, if characters threatening to leave the group or try to kill you if you didn't romance them would be a hilarious mechanic.  

[Plaintiff]

Volus Warlord wrote...
But I want to reject his idiocy in a way that yields a stronger negative reaction. Like him threatening to leave the group or threatening to kill me, so I have an excuse to kill him with plausible deniability.

Being attracted to you is idiocy? Can't say I disagree.

Or did you mean being attracted to the same sex? Or just being attracted to people generally?

[Volus Warlord]

Plaintiff wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...
But I want to reject his idiocy in a way that yields a stronger negative reaction. Like him threatening to leave the group or threatening to kill me, so I have an excuse to kill him with plausible deniability.

Being attracted to you is idiocy? Can't say I disagree.

 Thank you.

Or did you mean being attracted to the same sex? Or just being attracted to people generally?

Or a breach of professionalism.. or a reason to no longer trust his motives.. or a perceived conflict of interest..Take your pick. 

[Straw Nihilist]

Or have the person you rejected kill your LI.

*Ahem*

You know... You know what I've noticed? Nobody panics when things go "according to plan." Even if the plan is horrifying! If, in DA:I , Bioware makes it that, like, a mage will get shot with an arrow, or a shipload of templars will be blown up, nobody panics, because it's all "part of the plan." But when they set it that one little LI will die, well then everyone loses their minds! Introduce a little anarchy to the LIs. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos.

[Volus Warlord]

Billie Bones wrote...

Or have the person you rejected kill your LI.

*Ahem*

You know... You know what I've noticed? Nobody panics when things go "according to plan." Even if the plan is horrifying! If, in DA:I , Bioware makes it that, like, a mage will get shot with an arrow, or a shipload of templars will be blown up, nobody panics, because it's all "part of the plan." But when they set it that one little LI will die, well then everyone loses their minds! Introduce a little anarchy to the LIs. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos.

Maybe Plaintiff was trying to upset the established order by denying my godlike form and charisma. It was a worthy attempt. It gave me a good laugh.

[TK514]

I think this instance had less to do with BioWare LI's in general, and more to do with the character of Anders in specific. He's so self-absorbed there was no way he was ever going to be able to take a 'no' from Hawke, regardless of how polite, as anything but an insult.

[Diefenbaker]

I have a real problem with accidentally romancing companions, one great example being Leliana in Origins. This tends to happen because I'm too nice to them. Being a caring friend, it's mistaken as a romance invitation.

So, the only way around this I find is just to quick save before conversations. A gentle put-down would be nice but the problem is getting to that stage in the first place.

Modifié par AelixVII, 20 juillet 2013 - 10:24 .