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Geth Scanner--The Unbalancing Factor (Thermal Scopes are obsolete)


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Boog_89 wrote...

A geth scanner wont remove the CSR's fugly scope.
A thermal scope will not give me a headache.


I never understood the beef with hunter mode.

I play on max brightnes and I have no issues at all with huntermode.

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Shampoohorn wrote...


Tangentially, it also speaks to the balance of hunter mode itself. RoF, Damage, Accuracy, Speed, AND Scan all wrapped into a single power.


What about Devastator Mode? RoF, Damage, Accuracy, Magazine Size, +40% shields, near total stagger immunity... and the only drawbacks are -10% movement speed and the removal of a side hop.

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Annomander wrote...

Boog_89 wrote...

A geth scanner wont remove the CSR's fugly scope.
A thermal scope will not give me a headache.


I never understood the beef with hunter mode.

I play on max brightnes and I have no issues at all with huntermode.


People are different, I guess? I've not had any problems with Hunter Mode either but it seems like quite a lot of people do.

Also, you play on max brightness Anno? All the vids of yours I've seen are really dark and you said you like playing the game that way for a better atmosphere.

Modifié par cato_84, 21 juillet 2013 - 06:07 .


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The geth scanner could use a downside,
It has too much usefulness for a gear, only the bat gauntlet and grenade gear are as powerful as it, and most classes are easy to decide on

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I don't have problems with it normally either, but I can see why somebody might, it can be like rage on hazard white on some maps

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cato_84 wrote...

Annomander wrote...

Boog_89 wrote...

A geth scanner wont remove the CSR's fugly scope.
A thermal scope will not give me a headache.


I never understood the beef with hunter mode.

I play on max brightnes and I have no issues at all with huntermode.


People are different, I guess? I've not had any problems with Hunter Mode either but it seems like quite a lot of people do.

Also, you play on max brightness Anno? All the vids of yours I've seen are really dark and you said you like playing the game that way for a better atmosphere.


Post rgb proccessing most likely. Also if you're prone to getting bad migraines or headaches at all, the brightness will do it. It much like people who watch 3d.

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I don't like Geth scanner very much. My survivability and situation awareness is fine without it. I would rather, for the most part, go for that 15% damage boost from the weapon gears then have wall hax.

However, I do use the scanner on the the Cerberus Vanguard to get the most I can out of my Area Smash.

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geth scanner runs out of range, but thermal scope does not.

but does anyone think hunter mode effect is actually more blurry/headachy/brighter than the geth scanner's effect?

what happens when you use geth scanner and hunter mode?

Modifié par ROBOTICSUPERMAN, 21 juillet 2013 - 07:12 .


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The Rainbow Reaper wrote...

And on topic, I can't think of a single video game where an optional scope was useful.


RE4 Thermal scope..

Anyway Thermal scope is pretty useful to simply give you that nice standard zoom on sniper rifles that have wtfzoom.

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When did anyone use Thermal Scopes?

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Annomander wrote...

Boog_89 wrote...

A geth scanner wont remove the CSR's fugly scope.
A thermal scope will not give me a headache.


I never understood the beef with hunter mode.

I play on max brightnes and I have no issues at all with huntermode.


Then you should just consider yourself lucky Image IPB

I wish I could have wallhacks without it giving me a migraine Image IPB

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cato_84 wrote...

Annomander wrote...

Boog_89 wrote...

A geth scanner wont remove the CSR's fugly scope.
A thermal scope will not give me a headache.


I never understood the beef with hunter mode.

I play on max brightnes and I have no issues at all with huntermode.


People are different, I guess? I've not had any problems with Hunter Mode either but it seems like quite a lot of people do.

Also, you play on max brightness Anno? All the vids of yours I've seen are really dark and you said you like playing the game that way for a better atmosphere.


My old monitor was strange, such that I played low brightness, high contrast so models appeared more stark against their surroundings, as setting the brightness high caused the colours to be really dull which makes identifying movement harder.

Also, FRAPS'ing and then compressing to mp4 using sony vegas requires a lot of trial and error for each video before the colours / brightness is correct, time which I didn't really ever bother spending.

Since I got my new monitor I'm back to the proper way of playing; darker /
richer graphics look prettier, but I'm playing mostly PvP stuff now, so
I've got detail settings ultra low, v-sync off and brightness up high.

I've always been an advocate for ultra low graphics settings in shooters, keeping character model detail high to better distinguish them, and max brightness, but up until I got my new PC setup I wasn't able to play that way, because black and white just won't cut it for UT .

Modifié par Annomander, 21 juillet 2013 - 08:38 .


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geth scanner's range is too short.Thermal scopes are not.

obsolete? unlikely

Modifié par corporal doody, 21 juillet 2013 - 08:39 .


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Tokenusername wrote...

When did anyone use Thermal Scopes?


Techniclly every user of the jav.

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Because I played Geth all day yesterday, I couldn't see anything while I was playing today.

That's why I don't use the Geth Scanner.

that doesn't happen to everybody.

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joker_jack wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

When did anyone use Thermal Scopes?


Techniclly every user of the jav.


They also used HVB and an ammo mod, not wasting a slot for a scope.

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It's not very useful at all on large maps like London.

And on small maps like Glacier you won't need it if you know how to control spawns.

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It's not very useful at all on large maps like London.

And on small maps like Glacier you won't need it if you know how to control spawns.

 

:lol: that's llike saying that Hunter Mode isn't useful, because it has nearly the same range and actuallty more if you don't spec for Speed and Vision

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Air Quotes wrote...

Thermal Scope on a Saber - laz0r accurate.


Normal scope does practically the same thing.

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It's not very useful at all on large maps like London.

And on small maps like Glacier you won't need it if you know how to control spawns.

 
:lol: that's llike saying that Hunter Mode isn't useful, because it has nearly the same range and actuallty more if you don't spec for Speed and Vision

Geth Scanner doesn't give +17.5% Damage bonus plus +15% ROF bonus plus +25% Accuracy bonus.

Without those bonuses, yeah Hunter Mode isn't useful enough for me to put points into it.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 21 juillet 2013 - 10:52 .


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It's not very useful at all on large maps like London.

And on small maps like Glacier you won't need it if you know how to control spawns.

 
:lol: that's llike saying that Hunter Mode isn't useful, because it has nearly the same range and actuallty more if you don't spec for Speed and Vision

Geth Scanner doesn't give +17.5% Damage bonus plus +15% ROF bonus plus +25% Accuracy bonus.

 

LOL. Situational awareness is key. And seeing trough walls is ALWAYS useful. 

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It's not very useful at all on large maps like London.

And on small maps like Glacier you won't need it if you know how to control spawns.

 
:lol: that's llike saying that Hunter Mode isn't useful, because it has nearly the same range and actuallty more if you don't spec for Speed and Vision

Geth Scanner doesn't give +17.5% Damage bonus plus +15% ROF bonus plus +25% Accuracy bonus.

 
LOL. Situational awareness is key. And seeing trough walls is ALWAYS useful. 

You're missing the point.

On London/Condor if anything's within Geth Scanner range it should be dead already, or it should be in plain sight of you. There are no walls to hide behind.

On Glacier with a competent team you don't need Geth Scanner since you know exactly where the next spawn is.

Geth Scanner is only useful on medium sized maps which have a lot of walls (admittedly, about half the maps are like this) such as White or Ghost. But even then it is only useful for medium/close range characters.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 21 juillet 2013 - 10:57 .


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It's not very useful at all on large maps like London.

And on small maps like Glacier you won't need it if you know how to control spawns.

 
:lol: that's llike saying that Hunter Mode isn't useful, because it has nearly the same range and actuallty more if you don't spec for Speed and Vision

Geth Scanner doesn't give +17.5% Damage bonus plus +15% ROF bonus plus +25% Accuracy bonus.

 
LOL. Situational awareness is key. And seeing trough walls is ALWAYS useful. 

You're missing the point.

On London/Condor if anything's within Geth Scanner range it should be dead already, or it should be in plain sight of you.

On Glacier with a competent team you don't need Geth Scanner since you know exactly where the next spawn is.

Geth Scanner is only useful on medium sized maps which have a lot of walls (admittedly, about half the maps are like this) such as White or Ghost. But even then it is only useful for medium/close range characters.

 

Platinum. And boss spam. And Turrets. Cloaked things and that sorta stuff. 

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It's not very useful at all on large maps like London.

And on small maps like Glacier you won't need it if you know how to control spawns.

 
:lol: that's llike saying that Hunter Mode isn't useful, because it has nearly the same range and actuallty more if you don't spec for Speed and Vision

Geth Scanner doesn't give +17.5% Damage bonus plus +15% ROF bonus plus +25% Accuracy bonus.

 
LOL. Situational awareness is key. And seeing trough walls is ALWAYS useful. 

If Hunter Mode only gives you vision and nothing else, would you spec into it?

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It's not very useful at all on large maps like London.

And on small maps like Glacier you won't need it if you know how to control spawns.

 
:lol: that's llike saying that Hunter Mode isn't useful, because it has nearly the same range and actuallty more if you don't spec for Speed and Vision

Geth Scanner doesn't give +17.5% Damage bonus plus +15% ROF bonus plus +25% Accuracy bonus.

 
LOL. Situational awareness is key. And seeing trough walls is ALWAYS useful. 

If Hunter Mode only gives you vision and nothing else, would you spec into it?

 

Sure. With no penalty you mean? Why not? 

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Platinum. And boss spam. And Turrets. Cloaked things and that sorta stuff. 

Why would you need Geth Scanner against boss units. o__O They are as large as buildings and make loud noises that you can hear from across the map.

It is useful against surprise Turrets, I'll give you that. But there are hardly any Turrets on Platinum. It's mostly on Cerberus Gold. 

As for Hunters/Phantoms I use my stuns/AOEs so I don't need Geth Scanner. You can also hit them with your weapons even if they're Cloaked.