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[Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout]

ITFC-Alex wrote...

A level one consumable wouldn't make that much difference at all tbh.

A level 1 AP Ammo can boost your Armor penetration to a level where the absorbed damage is noticeable. Especially with weak hitting weapons. A Level 1 Adrenaline mod makes hacking/reviving/evading ravager shots easier. A level 1 Cryo ammo can free a marauder that was about to finish you off. A level 1 Headshot Amp is sometimes the difference between 2 bars left on a marauder or an One Hit kill. Level 1 Incnediary ammo is perfect for triggering fire explosions and to my knowledge those are as strong as the fire bursts from level III or IV ammo.

Why do people really thing it makes no difference if you equip a level 1 or not? Because it does.

Even if you think everyone should be able to solo Gold and you think that not equipping consumables is not a sign of being a slacker, denying the fact that even low level consumables have a profound effect on the gameplay is not wise.

TL:DR; Stop wasting my time by not even equipping level I ammo, no matter how cool you are. When you die, you cannot take any of them with you to heaven/hell. Thank you.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

ITFC-Alex wrote...

A level one consumable wouldn't make that much difference at all tbh. The classes that entered the game should have been more than capable of handling U/U/G without consumables. Its the quality of the PUG that is the win or fail. Even if they did pack a consumable a poor player will have to spurn it early just to survive. I don't understand why the presence of a consumable or even a low power gear item would be cause for a player to either join or bail on a game. Don't mean to sound off, I just naively assumed that people play for the joy of it and didn't read that much into things in a lobby. Surely the glory of carrying 3 powerful classes through an entire gold game would be pretty satisfying. Maybe I haven't clocked enough hours to become unsettled by PUG's not packing gear on Gold. Anyways, interesting experiment. I'm more inclined to save my consumables if others aren't packing and leave it at that.

The main problem I find with PUGs that don't gear up is them not doing anything in-game to ensure mission success. They won't gel or use missiles when appropriate, and they'll rage quit when they bleed out. It happens everytime without fail.

[UEG Donkey]

ITFC-Alex wrote...

A level one consumable wouldn't make that much difference at all tbh.

You're wrong; I'm not going to get into how good all of the ammo consumables are at level 1 or the survivablity of cyclonics although your're wrong there too.  A bad pug player that doesn't equip will simply quit rather than gel.  Level 1 equipment shows at least some commitment to the game and your time. 

[Vernostonus]

DarklighterFreak wrote...

... I rarely don't top topscore in gold PUG's, and u know what? i NEVER put Equipment on, i ony use level III consumables on Platinum.
I'm surprised that ppl still thinck that consumables are mandatory on gold. Ah yes, and by the way, sometimes i dont put consumables on plat (while using TGI of course . guilty of that), and still succeed and top score.
So all ur rant about HURR DURR EQUIPMENT PLZ is kinda pointless, and what u did by not helping ur team at all was shameful. /rant

+1

[Tallgeese_VII]

Vernostonus wrote...

DarklighterFreak wrote...

... I rarely don't top topscore in gold PUG's, and u know what? i NEVER put Equipment on, i ony use level III consumables on Platinum.
I'm surprised that ppl still thinck that consumables are mandatory on gold. Ah yes, and by the way, sometimes i dont put consumables on plat (while using TGI of course . guilty of that), and still succeed and top score.
So all ur rant about HURR DURR EQUIPMENT PLZ is kinda pointless, and what u did by not helping ur team at all was shameful. /rant

+1

+2 for foolishness.

[Vernostonus]

Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Vernostonus wrote...

DarklighterFreak wrote...

... I rarely don't top topscore in gold PUG's, and u know what? i NEVER put Equipment on, i ony use level III consumables on Platinum.
I'm surprised that ppl still thinck that consumables are mandatory on gold. Ah yes, and by the way, sometimes i dont put consumables on plat (while using TGI of course . guilty of that), and still succeed and top score.
So all ur rant about HURR DURR EQUIPMENT PLZ is kinda pointless, and what u did by not helping ur team at all was shameful. /rant

+1

+2 for foolishness.

lol :innocent:

[MaxCrushmore]

I can't believe there are still people out there using the ridiculous argument "well, I top score in Gold Pugs with no consumables, so I obviously don't need"

Most Gold Pugs suck, plain and simple, if you have several hundred hours of playing time you should top score in Gold Pugs .. that is a ridiculously low standard to hold yourself to if you are an experienced ME3MPer.

To say an ammo mod wouldn't help your performance (and by extension your teams) is absurd .. even cryo ammo 1 would help significantly vs all armored targets, let alone any of the more powerful consumables.

But you get people who hoard all their consumables, just to never use them .. like the BOTBer who posted last page about how he doesn't need them. What are you saving them for? You have more than you will ever use up ... these are the same people who choose to bleed out on wave 9 or away from the objective because they didn't want to use 1 med-gel

Every time I start a Gold match with players who don't use consumables, %99 of the time, they are dead weight .. I use them as meat shield/aggro deflectors while I kill everything. Also, most of the time, those players are brutal (even the ones who claim to be good without - reality exposes this as a myth)

Bottom line: no consumables = garbage player who is a hero in their own minds

[Evil]

Vernostonus wrote...

Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Vernostonus wrote...

DarklighterFreak wrote...

... I rarely don't top topscore in gold PUG's, and u know what? i NEVER put Equipment on, i ony use level III consumables on Platinum.
I'm surprised that ppl still thinck that consumables are mandatory on gold. Ah yes, and by the way, sometimes i dont put consumables on plat (while using TGI of course . guilty of that), and still succeed and top score.
So all ur rant about HURR DURR EQUIPMENT PLZ is kinda pointless, and what u did by not helping ur team at all was shameful. /rant

+1

+2 for foolishness.

lol :innocent:

Consumables exist solely for the the purpose of being CONSUMED.
They arn't gonna help you earn credits in the inventory menu.
I refuse to belive that anyone who has enough game experience to play on gold or platinum doesnt have SOMETHING they can equip, even if it's just level 1 stuff.
Even if your skills are so good that you are in the 1% who can play gold without consumables, or the 0.01%
who can play platinum without them, you STILL shouldnt, unless in a private lobby with friends.
Why?  Because being a tightfisted **** is infectious.
If one player refuses to equip, the others in the lobby are liable to copy, regardless of whether or not they are capable of succeeding without them.
I would wager that the drell would have equiped consumables if the other two hadn't been so tight.
Putting your money consumables where your mouth is is a sign of commitment to mission success.
Falure to do so in a pug is an insult to your teammates.
Also, 6p's:
Prior Preparation Prevents **** Poor Performance.
Better to equip and not need consumables, than to find yourself wasting medgels for want of a cyclonic crutch.
EDIT: max obviously types quicker than me:ph34r:

Modifié par Evil Mastered, 22 juillet 2013 - 11:31 .

[-Scythe-]

Lol, if a person is good enough to carry without consumables then the game of the host would have turned out different. In that case it's alright to not use consumables. But as the TE said, they failed at wave 3 so appearantly they need their equipment.

I always put on at least 2 consumables (weapon amps are kinda... hard to get), but not for any reasons like "I need them" or "it's good manners", but because it's more fun with them. It's a ****ing game. It doesn't cost me money to use consumables. It just increases my fun and thats the point of a game.

[Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout]

Evil Mastered wrote...
EDIT: max obviously types quicker than me:ph34r:

And I type faster than both of you.

Anyway, +1 to Max and Mustard. ( Suddenly I am hungry... )

[Kirrahe Airlines CEO]

INVADERONE wrote...

SeasonedTurtle wrote...

Dear PUGs, see this.

Best reference ever. I should have this running in the background on my pug games before the start of every match. 

I think everyone should have that running in the background of any pug game they're in. For the most part it should give motivation.

[Nathyrra]

if you join an ongoing game without conumables...ok fair enough

but if you join a lobby UUG or UUP in my view it is a matter of curtesy to equip some consumables

yes there is a few kits, who can do well without consumables in the right hands...
but cmon at least put on some level 1 equipment for gold - you won't need those for bronze and silver anyways...

[Shadow Storm]

Smart people use natural buffs to succeed rather then fortifying themselves up to the Ying Yang with equipment. (Platinum should be the only reason you use equipment) I went into a random game the other night with a guy ranked 440, another over 4000 and another just over 11,000. I was using a lvl 12 turian infiltrator with only cryo rounds while they were using lvl 20 characters with full equipment on.

One of the smart asses tried to kick me but one of them must have been smart enough to see the natural attributes of the TGI was ample enough. At the end i topped the leaderboard by over 20,000 of the second score and decided to gloat over the mic. I hate it when people assume no equipment will always equal failure. Skilled players will always have a ace up their sleeve and think ahead. (The 4000 ranked player was the only one not to ready up so i assume it was him) Shame on you.

Modifié par Raiden Storm, 23 juillet 2013 - 11:36 .

[Ohnenick]

_only1biggs_ wrote...

OP: Why did you put on euipment yourself? Seems like a waste to me.

Which of the 4 people above where you?

[Tallgeese_VII]

Ohnenick wrote...

_only1biggs_ wrote...

OP: Why did you put on euipment yourself? Seems like a waste to me.

Which of the 4 people above where you?

I always put on best equipment as host to show them I`m serious !
I took them off right before we started that game though, just to make fair between me and my teammates.

Yeah, I`d like to get some explanation on that screenshot too! what`s going on

[Tallgeese_VII]

Raiden Storm wrote...

Smart people use natural buffs to succeed rather then fortifying themselves up to the Ying Yang with equipment. (Platinum should be the only reason you use equipment) I went into a random game the other night with a guy ranked 440, another over 4000 and another just over 11,000. I was using a lvl 12 turian infiltrator with only cryo rounds while they were using lvl 20 characters with full equipment on.

One of the smart asses tried to kick me but one of them must have been smart enough to see the natural attributes of the TGI was ample enough. At the end i topped the leaderboard by over 20,000 of the second score and decided to gloat over the mic. I hate it when people assume no equipment will always equal failure. Skilled players will always have a ace up their sleeve and think ahead. (The 4000 ranked player was the only one not to ready up so i assume it was him) Shame on you.

You guys gotta stop talking this non-sense which makes me laugh with sad face.

The truth is, there is NO REASON to save equipments in Gold/Plat.
The best reason you frugal people always come up is because you score first and you play just fine and this is getting old.

Dumb people gimping themselves and being proud about it. poop.
Great job wasting more time & effort in every game.

Modifié par Tallgeese_VII, 23 juillet 2013 - 05:19 .

[MaxCrushmore]

Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Raiden Storm wrote...

Smart people use natural buffs to succeed rather then fortifying themselves up to the Ying Yang with equipment. (Platinum should be the only reason you use equipment) I went into a random game the other night with a guy ranked 440, another over 4000 and another just over 11,000. I was using a lvl 12 turian infiltrator with only cryo rounds while they were using lvl 20 characters with full equipment on.

One of the smart asses tried to kick me but one of them must have been smart enough to see the natural attributes of the TGI was ample enough. At the end i topped the leaderboard by over 20,000 of the second score and decided to gloat over the mic. I hate it when people assume no equipment will always equal failure. Skilled players will always have a ace up their sleeve and think ahead. (The 4000 ranked player was the only one not to ready up so i assume it was him) Shame on you.

You guys gotta stop talking this non-sense which makes me laugh with sad face.

The truth is, there is NO REASON to save equipments in Gold/Plat.
The best reason you frugal people always come up is because you score first and you play just fine and this is getting old.

Dumb people gimping themselves and being proud about it. poop.
Great job wasting more time & effort in every game.

Tallgeese QFT

I pretty much said everything I wanted to say up top

@Raiden - 2 things, first, you even admit to using an ammo mod, which is very important (IMO the most important consumable) Second, why wouldn't you use 'natural buffs' AND equipment to make yourself more powerful? It shows commitment to the match, that you may be willing to even use med-gels or rockets where needed. Experienced players know this ...

[Shadow Storm]

Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Raiden Storm wrote...

Smart people use natural buffs to succeed rather then fortifying themselves up to the Ying Yang with equipment. (Platinum should be the only reason you use equipment) I went into a random game the other night with a guy ranked 440, another over 4000 and another just over 11,000. I was using a lvl 12 turian infiltrator with only cryo rounds while they were using lvl 20 characters with full equipment on.

One of the smart asses tried to kick me but one of them must have been smart enough to see the natural attributes of the TGI was ample enough. At the end i topped the leaderboard by over 20,000 of the second score and decided to gloat over the mic. I hate it when people assume no equipment will always equal failure. Skilled players will always have a ace up their sleeve and think ahead. (The 4000 ranked player was the only one not to ready up so i assume it was him) Shame on you.

You guys gotta stop talking this non-sense which makes me laugh with sad face.

The truth is, there is NO REASON to save equipments in Gold/Plat.
The best reason you frugal people always come up is because you score first and you play just fine and this is getting old.

Dumb people gimping themselves and being proud about it. poop.
Great job wasting more time & effort in every game.

Only the weak and in experienced players cry wolf when high level players do not use equipment. I can understand an issue if the people have crappy weapons to work with but in all seriousness i bet people could kick ass and people like you still ****. The aim of the match is to win effectively and if i can do that without equipment then why not?

We are not here to carry you. If you are incapable of looking after yourself then what is the point of me using equipment? I am not wasting equipment to bail out players who have no common sense. If i feel you made a honest mistake i may throw in a missile or 2 and maybe a revive but that is the extent of my obligation to use consumables.

[RiseOftheCalamity]

I clicked on this hoping for something with clowns, women with 3 nipples and a doghouse.

inafterdreamsbroken

[Shadow Storm]

MaxCrushmore wrote...

Tallgeese_VII wrote...

Raiden Storm wrote...

Smart people use natural buffs to succeed rather then fortifying themselves up to the Ying Yang with equipment. (Platinum should be the only reason you use equipment) I went into a random game the other night with a guy ranked 440, another over 4000 and another just over 11,000. I was using a lvl 12 turian infiltrator with only cryo rounds while they were using lvl 20 characters with full equipment on.

One of the smart asses tried to kick me but one of them must have been smart enough to see the natural attributes of the TGI was ample enough. At the end i topped the leaderboard by over 20,000 of the second score and decided to gloat over the mic. I hate it when people assume no equipment will always equal failure. Skilled players will always have a ace up their sleeve and think ahead. (The 4000 ranked player was the only one not to ready up so i assume it was him) Shame on you.

You guys gotta stop talking this non-sense which makes me laugh with sad face.

The truth is, there is NO REASON to save equipments in Gold/Plat.
The best reason you frugal people always come up is because you score first and you play just fine and this is getting old.

Dumb people gimping themselves and being proud about it. poop.
Great job wasting more time & effort in every game.

Tallgeese QFT

I pretty much said everything I wanted to say up top

@Raiden - 2 things, first, you even admit to using an ammo mod, which is very important (IMO the most important consumable) Second, why wouldn't you use 'natural buffs' AND equipment to make yourself more powerful? It shows commitment to the match, that you may be willing to even use med-gels or rockets where needed. Experienced players know this ...

I used a Cryo round mod 2 i hardly call that buffing myself to the ying yang. Secondly define "commitment to the match". Do you mean wasting endless credits bailing out players and carrying them every step of the way? I never said i do not use rockets to help players and medi-gels i would need only for myself so not using them hardly effects the team.

Hell i have 255 medi-gel in my arsenal so i must be doing something right. If the match is won with a excellent score and minimal deaths then i have already majorly commited to the match. Last i checked the combined score defines the amount of exp YOU get at the end of the match. I do not need to fling rockets around to bail out inexperienced players that is what i have a gun for.

[bob e sardaukar]

Sometimes you have to do the things the hard way. Yeah I 'quip up for gold there's a certain responsibility and commitment you make for your team and yourself. But mainly coz there's safety in heavy gear and numbers.

If you don't use the cons and your skilled that's fine - but if you don't help out, points ****, don't revive or rocket got your nose up in the air passing judgment on average to less than pugs and their game play. Maybe solos and your lone wolf banner and some dark corner to love yourself is best for you.

I got a pal who has the I don't rock till wave 10 or Ex or at all mantra - but is quite happy for others to burn there's whether out of panic to relieve pressure or a decisive commitment to success.

Why play random at all? If you just turn your nose up for all sorts of reasons. If your so skilled then carrying the game should be a breeze?

Bottom line? TG you should feel guilty that was cold what you did? But its a reflection of the snobbery and elitism of a quite few of our apparently superior betters on BSN.

[Tallgeese_VII]

bob e sardaukar wrote...

Sometimes you have to do the things the hard way. Yeah I 'quip up for gold there's a certain responsibility and commitment you make for your team and yourself. But mainly coz there's safety in heavy gear and numbers.

If you don't use the cons and your skilled that's fine - but if you don't help out, points ****, don't revive or rocket got your nose up in the air passing judgment on average to less than pugs and their game play. Maybe solos and your lone wolf banner and some dark corner to love yourself is best for you.

I got a pal who has the I don't rock till wave 10 or Ex or at all mantra - but is quite happy for others to burn there's whether out of panic to relieve pressure or a decisive commitment to success.

Why play random at all? If you just turn your nose up for all sorts of reasons. If your so skilled then carrying the game should be a breeze?

Bottom line? TG you should feel guilty that was cold what you did? But its a reflection of the snobbery and elitism of a quite few of our apparently superior betters on BSN.

You speak as if you know me better than I know myself.

[Tallgeese_VII]

Seriously though. After plalying near 2500 and over 2000 PuG gold games,
you think I never carried 3 PuG players who never equip anything? I`ve done it hundreds of times.
I don`t owe these guys anything, and I will do what I see fit just like they do what they like to do.

[BullMooose]

Personally sometimes when I'm playing gold I forget to equip consumables, as I'm often alt tabbed when in lobbies. However, since I have near a maxed out manifest and am experienced in the art of carrying it is fine. IMO you only REALLY need ammo/consumables on plat or if you're using a ****ty weapon.