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Brand new to ME3 online. My scores are awful when playing. Suggestions?


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#51
Dunvi

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1) From your manifest, I can see that you've skipped straight ot silver. That's not necessarily a problem - certainly, I have a friend who I took to one or two bronze games, then he started pugging silver and then gold within 40 hours. But if you're having trouble scoring and surviving, it is worth considering what mechanics you are missing out on the chance to learn on the lower difficulties, such as spawn poiints and spawning behavior, as well as how to play various kits without dying quite as randomly. Score whoring is accomplished by reaching spawns first, and destroying them within seconds.

2) From your manifest, you've obviously skipped straight to the expensive packs. Don't do this. There are a few reasons for this.

a) The first one is the amount of consumables you get per game - playing silver, you are buying 99k packs every 3 games, and getting 1 5-card of consumables (medigel, rockets, ops packs, and thermal clip packs) from it. Unsurprisingly, you are riding the edge of no medigel. Buying the smaller packs will get you a better distribution of consumables.

B) Second, the cheapest, most powerful upgrades in the game are the common and uncommon weapon mods. The extended barrels give you a flat 25% damage upgrade to the equipped weapon, for the cheap cost of 5 common, or uncommon mods. In comparison, most guns give you a 25% damage upgrade from level I to level X, which is twice the levels, at a much steeper cost per level. The armor negation mods are even more invaluable, especially before you have a good stash of equipment (ammo cards) to use. Armor in this game works as a flat damage reduction modifier. On silver, the damage reduction is 25 points of damage, I believe? So on fast firing weapon, you are doing 5 damage per shot without armor mitigation. Your shotguns are suffering the damage reduction x8, since it is per pellet. Other weapons are stiflingly frustrating to use without the extended Magazine,

c) Turns out that a level 1 rare or ultra rare is heavy, low on ammo, and the majority of gold wepaons really aren't very good. A fully levelled Mantis, or most of the uncommon weapons, will serve you far better than a low level rare, and given both the much smaller pool and the cheaper cost for a guarenteed drop, you can have that level X Mattock in a fraction of the time. (Note - there are some exceptions to this rule. A level 1 Acolyte is worth using on classes that really benefit from the weapon, such as the Fury. Also, most URs will serve you well at level 1 on Bronze and Silver. On gold you're better off with that maxed Mattock probably.)

3) As expected from a new player, you're not using your ops packs at all. Learn to use them.

4) Projectile weapons, projectile weapons... they have weird mechanics compared to the hit-scans. The trajectory is calculated on-host, which means that if you're a client and lagging, you will miss perfectly fine shots. Even when you're not lagging, the likelihood of a shot doing no damage is a lot higher. They have perfect stagger, and often a radius of impact meaning you don't have to aim at all, and do not suffer armor mitigation. In return, they cannot penetrate (wall hacking is a very significant mechanic to high DPS), and do very relatively little damage - the Adas especially has very unfortunate DPS. I would stick to using hit-scan weapons if you have any basic shooter skills - and even if you don't, to be honest.

moar coming...

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Well, with any class that has a flamer, I like to go with a reegar carbine and fully maxed out power damage. Non stop barrage of flames

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Some more points...

5) Even if you are good at shooting, the game's mechanics will limit you by your gun's level pretty harshly. If you are comfortable with power-kits, you may be more pleased by your DPS until your guns start leveling up. If you prefer weapon kits, I can give you a list of guns that will work at lower levels, and infiltrators and marksman are your best bets for bringing their DPS up to par. On this note, though the Vorcha Hunter is an engineer and has two active powers, he is not a power-spam class in the way of a Human Adept, say. His powers are mostly good for crowd control, and his actual damage output is pretty reliant on a good gun (which means you don't want the Adas for him). Most people on this board wouldn't touch him except for the incendiary ammo stacking glitches - he's a fine character even without that, but he does need a good gun.

6) We've broken the game, and there are certain mechanics that are fairly required for high-level scorewhoring. Reload cancelling or reload hiding can give you a 150% or greater DPS increase. Wall hacking (plus bugs in the score distribution system) makes snipers fairly ridiculous on the tiny maps. Most powers have target caps, so knowing about those will allow you to spawn nuke more intelligently. Understanding priming mechanics and priorities will allow you to combo more effectively (while powers and weapons do not scale to difficulty, combos do).

7) There is literally no point in bringing both an Adas and an Acolyte. They do the exact same thing, except one weighs like 10x more, only hits a single target at a time, has worse DPS in every way, and can't be bounced around walls.

Oh, and add me if you want. I could use some low-stress newb-helping after the way this day is shaping up.... nothing like being told 3 != 3 over your morning coffee to get you hating life.

Modifié par Dunvi, 22 juillet 2013 - 07:27 .


#54
D1ngD0ngBannu

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Oy Vey, Ive got a lot to learn. Reload cancelling is my subject to learn today. To the sticky at the top I go.

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The scoreboard is your problem. Throw it out the airlock.

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D1ngD0ngBannu wrote...

Oy Vey, Ive got a lot to learn. Reload cancelling is my subject to learn today. To the sticky at the top I go.


Loleggsbawksreloadcancelling 

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Pinky-Slaying-SugarWalls

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All you have to do pretty much unlock GI and you'll become OP in no time!

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Don't care about the scoreboard. You're new to the game, it's okay if you have a lower score. It's more important for you to gain experience from different situations in this game, play different characters, try out different weapons, powers, builds... Try to hold your own on the difficulty setting you're playing and not to rely to much on your team (use your medigels and ops packs wisely for example). Be a good teamplayer and do everything you can to support the team, help with objectives, revive your teammates if possible... That's how I introduced my nephew Daniel into this game, he has a playtime about 76h now and we are playing silver and gold matches most of the time, even as a duo if nobody else joins in. He has some good weapons unlocked and maxed, understands the game mechanics, knows the spawn points on each map, has some favourite characters to play and he truly understands to use them well, has a 2 thermal clips, 2 medigels, 3 cobra missiles, and 3 ops packs capacity right now, but that's more than enough as long as I keep an eye on him and revive him when necessary. Also what Dunvi said, she has some good points listed there for you. You can also search Youtube for good tutorial guides, like on Invaderone's channel for example. He has good builds tutorials listed there and provides you with much insight of this game for every difficulty setting.

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Damn, I gotta say this community is pretty darn cool. One of the friendliest communities I've seen in a while. Thanks for the help guys. I've been dieing much less often now (not at all for the beginning few waves, but almost always once or twice wave 9/10/11.) Been sticking to the 1st/2nd place positions for score using the Vorcha engineer. I just really really really find him a super cool character. (Yes, yes, I know don't worry about score).

But seriously, thanks for the tips. Hopefully I'll see some of you in-game. =)

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TheKillerAngel wrote...

As others have said, the Vorcha Engineer is a class who's damage is almost entirely dependent on the weapons it fields, and new players don't have very good weapons most of the time. If you're a good shooter, your best bet would be a Turian Soldier with either the Saber or Eagle. If you prefer to deal damage with biotic combos the base human adepts/sentinels are good for that.


This. Playing the sentinel with a light weapon to maintain fast recharge speeds allows repeated use of warp/throw making biotoc explosions everywhere! So much fun running around and sploding things. The Vindicator goes well with the sentinel, but it's not the lightest weapon at level 1, so you might try using your Avenger VI with him for higher recharge speeds.

The human adept is great for biotic explosions as well but a bit more squishy than the sentinel due to lack of tech armor. I would recommend the Tempest with Ultralight materials, or possibly the Acolyte or N7 Eagle (depending on it's weight I don't have that weapon so I'm not sure if it's heavy or light, but it's preferable to maintain a 200% recharge bonus as an adept IMO)

Modifié par Andr0idOS, 23 juillet 2013 - 03:38 .


#61
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Dunvi wrote...
nothing like being told 3 != 3 over your morning coffee to get you hating life.

Of course it's not 3, it's 6.;) 

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

Dunvi wrote...
nothing like being told 3 != 3 over your morning coffee to get you hating life.

Of course it's not 3, it's 6.;) 


Except it wasn't. I even took a screenshot of Eclipse clearly showing that 3 != 3, but then I realized that even after cropping out almost everything, and blacking out some of the other code around it, I could still probably get sued for breaking my NDA if I posted it :pinched:

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

Dunvi wrote...
nothing like being told 3 != 3 over your morning coffee to get you hating life.

Of course it's not 3, it's 6.;) 

Its probably more likely 2.9999999999999999

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Blaze9131 wrote...

My scores are awful when playing.

score means nothing.. score = epeen

suggestion? play as a team. watch tutorials. dont go akimbo off host.

play with Payn3zz and BACON4BREAKFAST they will... guide you through :D:D:D:D

Modifié par XPERIA_Z, 23 juillet 2013 - 04:14 .