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Inanna Athanasia

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  So I just finished playing the Witcher 2 and was curious as to what others may of thought of it and so on. On a whole, I really liked it. It was complicated as hell for me to get use too, but once I got more comfortable with combat and which signs I liked best to use, I really liked it. I completely loved the graphics, especially the Dragon. It looked so much different then other games I played and kind of reminded me of a beefed up iguana (which I love anyway...). I liked how people looked and also the outfits. The whole set up of the world itself and the people in it really impressed me with the detailing. I also liked how a few choices in the begining really made an impact on what happens in your game. I played it twice, once siding with the elf and the other with the guard and except for the first chapter, the rest of the game is different, so that was pretty cool since its almost like getting 2 games with one. I also really loved that it included the game soundtrack on CD  with it and it also was pretty awesome as I loved the music too.

   But with all good, there is always the bad too, mind you maybe not as much bad as some games, but still. Not really a bad thing, but I admit I was a bit shocked on how much nudity and sex were in it. I was use to the Mass Effect 1 type nudity where Shep is naked, but you never see nothing while she crawls up her lovers body, so seeing the sex parts was a bit of a shock (especially if you side with the elf). Not saying it was bad or not, but it was very much a shock for me. I hated how the Witcher jumps around and sometimes rolls while fighting, ugh DA2 rogue flashbacks, only thankfully not as bad, but still it got annoying. Another big one for me that while I didn't mind the 2 swords thing, I hated fights were 1 being is human and others as creatures and you had to switch back between the two while trying to stay alive too, the flow between swords was really sluggish.

  I am sure there is other stuff, but I can't think right now, a bit brain dead from playing it too much,lol. But I would like to see what others thought. There was a lot of stuff I would love to see in DA 3 too. On the whole it was a cool game, I will be buying Witcher 3 when it comes out for sure.

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Inanna Athanasia

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Ah I did remember another one on the not liked list. I really hated the flashback parts. It wasn't so much the graphic art comic style exactly, its just the break and how they happened and overall look. I am not sure exactly how to put it, but they really started to bug me after the first couple.

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I thought it was a decent game. Story is good, though it lacks any meaningful "moral" and is dry (feels like ME1 or ME2). Combat is twitch which I consider a bad thing, Geralt is largely a defined protagonist which makes me quail at the "RPG" tag. Fairly realistic characters.

Not bad. Pretty good. Definitely not great.

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Pretty much agree with EntropicAngel.

It is good compared to half the trash out there but not one of my personal favorites.

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Someone's salty.

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Next to Mass Effect 1 and 2, Deus Ex the original, DE: HR, DA:O, and FF7, I consider TW2 one of my all time favorite story-driven games.

If you're really into it, I suggest playing it again on that special difficulty mode that allows you to make 1 unique armor set per chapter and to pick the specialization in the skills tree you haven't tried yet. Also, try The Witcher 1 out. It's not as good as its sequel, but it is still a very good game nonetheless. If you try to complete everything in the game in 1 playthrough, it'll take you about 90 hours. You can also transfer your save to TW2 (a few dialogue conversations change based on some of your decisions in TW1).

Modifié par Weskerr, 22 juillet 2013 - 06:03 .


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Weskerr wrote...

If you try to complete everything in the game in 1 playthrough, it'll take you about 90 hours.


Lol, what? That's not true at all.

This says 65 hours, though I felt mine was substantially less than that for about 80% of the content.

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EntropicAngel wrote...

Weskerr wrote...

If you try to complete everything in the game in 1 playthrough, it'll take you about 90 hours.


Lol, what? That's not true at all.

This says 65 hours, though I felt mine was substantially less than that for about 80% of the content.


I'm basing that number on my own playthrough (we're talking about TW1, right?). If 90 hours is way above average for completing everything you possibly can in 1 playthrough, then I must have taken my sweet time (and really enjoyed it).

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Weskerr wrote...

Next to Mass Effect 1 and 2, Deus Ex the original, DE: HR, DA:O, and FF7, I consider TW2 one of my all time favorite story-driven games.

If you're really into it, I suggest playing it again on that special difficulty mode that allows you to make 1 unique armor set per chapter and to pick the specialization in the skills tree you haven't tried yet. Also, try The Witcher 1 out. It's not as good as its sequel, but it is still a very good game nonetheless. If you try to complete everything in the game in 1 playthrough, it'll take you about 90 hours. You can also transfer your save to TW2 (a few dialogue conversations change based on some of your decisions in TW1).


I would agree and its pretty high on my list of favorite games too. Its one of the first games in awhile that I really got into and enjoyed greatly. Every game has its good points and bad and the good for me was very much on the good side.

Are you talking about the dark mode? I'm not sure I am good enough to play one that level. Is it where you import your current character into it? Not sure I understand what you mean about picking skills you haven't tried yet, unless it is important back into the game like you can in ME games.

I can't play witcher 1 since I can only play on xbox and not the pc. I wish I had a comp I could play it on as with many games, but I am content with my xbox, but it still doesn't make me hope that maybe someday I will get a nice enough comp to game on too.

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The clunky combat is the main drawback in Witcher 2 (although it was far worse it the original). The story and characters are well done.

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They just made a "full combat rebalance mod" with new animations, a new talent tree.
I don't like it very much but it's a nice redesign of the combat (they wanted to give up the cheap "roll/backstab" tactic) if you want some diversity.

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It's a solid game. The story is well-told, the environments are diverse/appealing, and the combat system (mostly works).

There are a few bad points though. While the story was great on a narrative level, I can't say I felt too invested in the events taking place. I played on Xbox so the Witcher 2 was my first experience in the Witcher world. The problem with this is that there were very few moments where I found myself saying "Aha! So that's how that fits in". I could keep up with most of what was happening, but lacked the prior experience to appreciate its larger relevance. Ex: The revelation that the Nilfgaardian Empire was behind the entire thing.

I also felt some of the characters fell a little flat, Zoltan in particular. Same with Dandelion, who being honest feels like a less memorable version of Varric. On the other hand, Roche and Foltest were a crap ton of fun to interact with.

Modifié par Il Divo, 22 juillet 2013 - 10:14 .


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All that mattered to me was its narrative, which was VERY VERY good.

It has the best writings, plots, characters in any RPG I've ever played.

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More adventure game than RPG. Story, some RPG mechanics, but fixed protag.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, or it's a reason not to play it.

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It's very good. I think the combat keeps it from being great, and it's personally keeping me from doing a replay. But the writing is above-average and Saskia is an interesting character.

I've heard that the extended edition improves on the ending and the Yennifer backstory. That's good. I was supremely bored by all those anecdotes since the game doesn't bother to provide a context for any of it.

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The combat mechanic in Witcher 2 is slightly less idiotic, but still idiotic nonetheless...just saying :)

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Happy you like the game op, here is link to witcher 3.
 
http://social.biowar.../index/15679060

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I liked it. I did a sword focused build my first time through and had to work pretty hard at the combat. My second time through I leveled up my rune powers and it was tremendously better. I felt there was a bit of information overload when trying to keep all of the names and politics straight and needed to check the wiki every now and then. Quest markers and the map did lead to some extremely frustrating moments. Overall these didn't take too much away from the game and am excited for TW3.

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I enjoyed it. Definitely one of my favorite games.

Despite having a somewhat defined protagonist I also don't see it as being any less of an RPG than say, Skyrim, Mass Effect or Dragon Age. While you may not have a lot of leeway in shaping Geralt's personality, you do have a tremendous amount of choice in where the story goes. It has completely different branching storylines, and that is something you don't see too often in RPGs.

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Fix'd protagonist doesn't make the game any less of an RPG folks.

What does is that Geralt can only be influenced so much. You can't make him a highly pious paladin for example whose only goal in life is to destroy all evil. You can't make him racist and you can't even make him say "I LOVE you" to Triss as though he's too scared to admit such feelings. Most of the time when accepting a side quest Geralt will ask about the money. In a game like Origins asking for a reward would be an optional dialogue option and some quests even allowed you to turn down a reward.

This is of course part of all who Geralt is. I've not read the books but I imagine CDPR are trying to stay true to them.

A fix'd protagonist like The Nameless One is able to be role-played however the player wants.

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Alongside ME2 and KOTOR- the witcher 2 is the best RPG I've ever played. And I love the twitch gameplay and the difficulty- it doesn't hold your hand and makes you prepare and be tactical. Playing dark difficulty is one of the more enjoying gaming experiences I've had. Plus it's absolutely gorgeous. This game on PC on a high end card is stunning. I've played the Xbox 360 version too, and it's awesome and beautiful compared to anything else on consoles.

It's top 20, maybe top 10 games this gen. Easily.

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It makes no sense if you hate defined protagonists
Deus Ex series, Final Fantasy (yeah flame me), Planescape: Torment, The Witcher, Blood Omen... they all have them.

As for the game. It's one of dbest RPGs i have played since KOTOR.
The world, setting, characters, dialogue it's all excellent written and well executed.
Hell, i even consider characters and writing to better than Game of Thrones.

Modifié par Blooddrunk1004, 22 juillet 2013 - 10:00 .


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InannaAthanasia wrote...

Weskerr wrote...

Next to Mass Effect 1 and 2, Deus Ex the original, DE: HR, DA:O, and FF7, I consider TW2 one of my all time favorite story-driven games.

If you're really into it, I suggest playing it again on that special difficulty mode that allows you to make 1 unique armor set per chapter and to pick the specialization in the skills tree you haven't tried yet. Also, try The Witcher 1 out. It's not as good as its sequel, but it is still a very good game nonetheless. If you try to complete everything in the game in 1 playthrough, it'll take you about 90 hours. You can also transfer your save to TW2 (a few dialogue conversations change based on some of your decisions in TW1).


I would agree and its pretty high on my list of favorite games too. Its one of the first games in awhile that I really got into and enjoyed greatly. Every game has its good points and bad and the good for me was very much on the good side.

Are you talking about the dark mode? I'm not sure I am good enough to play one that level. Is it where you import your current character into it? Not sure I understand what you mean about picking skills you haven't tried yet, unless it is important back into the game like you can in ME games.

I can't play witcher 1 since I can only play on xbox and not the pc. I wish I had a comp I could play it on as with many games, but I am content with my xbox, but it still doesn't make me hope that maybe someday I will get a nice enough comp to game on too.


I am talking about dark mode, but it doesn't have anything to do with importing your character. Have you tried playing it yet or do you assume that you wouldn't be good enough? Admittedly, it is much more difficult than normal or hard in that enemies can kill you in just a few hits, but once you get used to it, it becomes quite fun and challenging rather than frustrating and exasperating. The unique outfits you can craft each chapter also make combat A LOT easier.

In terms of the skill tree, I'm referring to this:

http://vnmedia.ign.c...s/rpgplays2.jpg

I suggest you pick a branch on the skill tree you haven't tried yet because each one approaches combat differently and each is powerful in its own way. It's fun, that's all. :)

Edit: It's a shame you can't play the first Witcher game. As I said, it's a very good game in its own right.

Modifié par Weskerr, 22 juillet 2013 - 11:13 .


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Awesome game, albeit a tough one to get in to. In fact I really want to thank the BSN-ers who convinced me to persist with it as on my first play through I really didn't like it.

The games biggest and most stupid flaw is allowing you to play the prologue in a random order - stupid decision IMO.

Also, whilst i didn't find the combat bad I did find it felt a bit detached from the player and was too reliant on Geralt deciding to do what he wanted, instead of having the player decide for him.

Also, I wasn't keen on Roche's path - far more boring than the other IMO.

That all said it's still immense. The story and narrative are awesome, the characters are great and the "feel" of being a Witcher, whilst not perfect, is still great and very much fun. If they can take the good, sort out the bad and add a bit more good to boot they'll have an all time classic in TW3.

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It's one of my top 3 RPG's of all time.   The characters feel and act real, and I like how morality is not unrealistically set as black and white.  I'm actually surprised people have a problem with the lack of straightforward morality.  To me, it's a plus. 

Excellent, excellent gameplay.  I didn't so much like the combat in The Witcher, but didn't have any qualms about combat in the sequel.  In fact, I loved how I could utilize combinations of sword skills, signs, potions and traps, where as in most games I'd focus exclusively on one skill set.  I find it funny that most games claim to give you choice...well, I want to be a jack-of-all-trades.  Most games don't let me do that; TW2 does.  In fact, harder difficulties encourage strategic planning and resourcefulness.  Love it.

Story as good.  Not incredible, but good.  Mostly I think the characters are well-written.  The sex and nudity didn't detract from it for me.  The only questionable sexual interaction was with the elf who wanted to offer herself to Geralt as payment for his help.  Seemed slightly off.  I found the scenes with Triss to be spot-on.  I hope they continue that kind of thing going forward.  Same goes to the ambiguous morality and dark world.