The Witcher 2, thoughts? (warning spoilers!)
#1
Posté 22 juillet 2013 - 02:24
But with all good, there is always the bad too, mind you maybe not as much bad as some games, but still. Not really a bad thing, but I admit I was a bit shocked on how much nudity and sex were in it. I was use to the Mass Effect 1 type nudity where Shep is naked, but you never see nothing while she crawls up her lovers body, so seeing the sex parts was a bit of a shock (especially if you side with the elf). Not saying it was bad or not, but it was very much a shock for me. I hated how the Witcher jumps around and sometimes rolls while fighting, ugh DA2 rogue flashbacks, only thankfully not as bad, but still it got annoying. Another big one for me that while I didn't mind the 2 swords thing, I hated fights were 1 being is human and others as creatures and you had to switch back between the two while trying to stay alive too, the flow between swords was really sluggish.
I am sure there is other stuff, but I can't think right now, a bit brain dead from playing it too much,lol. But I would like to see what others thought. There was a lot of stuff I would love to see in DA 3 too. On the whole it was a cool game, I will be buying Witcher 3 when it comes out for sure.
#2
Posté 22 juillet 2013 - 02:28
#3
Guest_EntropicAngel_*
Posté 22 juillet 2013 - 05:25
Guest_EntropicAngel_*
Not bad. Pretty good. Definitely not great.
#4
Posté 22 juillet 2013 - 05:30
It is good compared to half the trash out there but not one of my personal favorites.
#5
Posté 22 juillet 2013 - 05:37
#6
Posté 22 juillet 2013 - 05:56
If you're really into it, I suggest playing it again on that special difficulty mode that allows you to make 1 unique armor set per chapter and to pick the specialization in the skills tree you haven't tried yet. Also, try The Witcher 1 out. It's not as good as its sequel, but it is still a very good game nonetheless. If you try to complete everything in the game in 1 playthrough, it'll take you about 90 hours. You can also transfer your save to TW2 (a few dialogue conversations change based on some of your decisions in TW1).
Modifié par Weskerr, 22 juillet 2013 - 06:03 .
#7
Guest_EntropicAngel_*
Posté 22 juillet 2013 - 06:22
Guest_EntropicAngel_*
Weskerr wrote...
If you try to complete everything in the game in 1 playthrough, it'll take you about 90 hours.
Lol, what? That's not true at all.
This says 65 hours, though I felt mine was substantially less than that for about 80% of the content.
#8
Posté 22 juillet 2013 - 07:20
EntropicAngel wrote...
Weskerr wrote...
If you try to complete everything in the game in 1 playthrough, it'll take you about 90 hours.
Lol, what? That's not true at all.
This says 65 hours, though I felt mine was substantially less than that for about 80% of the content.
I'm basing that number on my own playthrough (we're talking about TW1, right?). If 90 hours is way above average for completing everything you possibly can in 1 playthrough, then I must have taken my sweet time (and really enjoyed it).
#9
Posté 22 juillet 2013 - 07:34
Weskerr wrote...
Next to Mass Effect 1 and 2, Deus Ex the original, DE: HR, DA:O, and FF7, I consider TW2 one of my all time favorite story-driven games.
If you're really into it, I suggest playing it again on that special difficulty mode that allows you to make 1 unique armor set per chapter and to pick the specialization in the skills tree you haven't tried yet. Also, try The Witcher 1 out. It's not as good as its sequel, but it is still a very good game nonetheless. If you try to complete everything in the game in 1 playthrough, it'll take you about 90 hours. You can also transfer your save to TW2 (a few dialogue conversations change based on some of your decisions in TW1).
I would agree and its pretty high on my list of favorite games too. Its one of the first games in awhile that I really got into and enjoyed greatly. Every game has its good points and bad and the good for me was very much on the good side.
Are you talking about the dark mode? I'm not sure I am good enough to play one that level. Is it where you import your current character into it? Not sure I understand what you mean about picking skills you haven't tried yet, unless it is important back into the game like you can in ME games.
I can't play witcher 1 since I can only play on xbox and not the pc. I wish I had a comp I could play it on as with many games, but I am content with my xbox, but it still doesn't make me hope that maybe someday I will get a nice enough comp to game on too.
#10
Posté 22 juillet 2013 - 08:29
#11
Posté 22 juillet 2013 - 09:26
I don't like it very much but it's a nice redesign of the combat (they wanted to give up the cheap "roll/backstab" tactic) if you want some diversity.
#12
Posté 22 juillet 2013 - 10:13
There are a few bad points though. While the story was great on a narrative level, I can't say I felt too invested in the events taking place. I played on Xbox so the Witcher 2 was my first experience in the Witcher world. The problem with this is that there were very few moments where I found myself saying "Aha! So that's how that fits in". I could keep up with most of what was happening, but lacked the prior experience to appreciate its larger relevance. Ex: The revelation that the Nilfgaardian Empire was behind the entire thing.
I also felt some of the characters fell a little flat, Zoltan in particular. Same with Dandelion, who being honest feels like a less memorable version of Varric. On the other hand, Roche and Foltest were a crap ton of fun to interact with.
Modifié par Il Divo, 22 juillet 2013 - 10:14 .
#13
Posté 22 juillet 2013 - 01:37
It has the best writings, plots, characters in any RPG I've ever played.
#14
Posté 22 juillet 2013 - 01:58
Not that there's anything wrong with that, or it's a reason not to play it.
#15
Posté 22 juillet 2013 - 03:11
I've heard that the extended edition improves on the ending and the Yennifer backstory. That's good. I was supremely bored by all those anecdotes since the game doesn't bother to provide a context for any of it.
#16
Posté 22 juillet 2013 - 03:56
#17
Posté 22 juillet 2013 - 04:23
#18
Posté 22 juillet 2013 - 04:27
#19
Posté 22 juillet 2013 - 05:34
Despite having a somewhat defined protagonist I also don't see it as being any less of an RPG than say, Skyrim, Mass Effect or Dragon Age. While you may not have a lot of leeway in shaping Geralt's personality, you do have a tremendous amount of choice in where the story goes. It has completely different branching storylines, and that is something you don't see too often in RPGs.
#20
Posté 22 juillet 2013 - 08:33
What does is that Geralt can only be influenced so much. You can't make him a highly pious paladin for example whose only goal in life is to destroy all evil. You can't make him racist and you can't even make him say "I LOVE you" to Triss as though he's too scared to admit such feelings. Most of the time when accepting a side quest Geralt will ask about the money. In a game like Origins asking for a reward would be an optional dialogue option and some quests even allowed you to turn down a reward.
This is of course part of all who Geralt is. I've not read the books but I imagine CDPR are trying to stay true to them.
A fix'd protagonist like The Nameless One is able to be role-played however the player wants.
#21
Posté 22 juillet 2013 - 09:38
It's top 20, maybe top 10 games this gen. Easily.
#22
Posté 22 juillet 2013 - 09:53
Deus Ex series, Final Fantasy (yeah flame me), Planescape: Torment, The Witcher, Blood Omen... they all have them.
As for the game. It's one of dbest RPGs i have played since KOTOR.
The world, setting, characters, dialogue it's all excellent written and well executed.
Hell, i even consider characters and writing to better than Game of Thrones.
Modifié par Blooddrunk1004, 22 juillet 2013 - 10:00 .
#23
Posté 22 juillet 2013 - 11:04
InannaAthanasia wrote...
Weskerr wrote...
Next to Mass Effect 1 and 2, Deus Ex the original, DE: HR, DA:O, and FF7, I consider TW2 one of my all time favorite story-driven games.
If you're really into it, I suggest playing it again on that special difficulty mode that allows you to make 1 unique armor set per chapter and to pick the specialization in the skills tree you haven't tried yet. Also, try The Witcher 1 out. It's not as good as its sequel, but it is still a very good game nonetheless. If you try to complete everything in the game in 1 playthrough, it'll take you about 90 hours. You can also transfer your save to TW2 (a few dialogue conversations change based on some of your decisions in TW1).
I would agree and its pretty high on my list of favorite games too. Its one of the first games in awhile that I really got into and enjoyed greatly. Every game has its good points and bad and the good for me was very much on the good side.
Are you talking about the dark mode? I'm not sure I am good enough to play one that level. Is it where you import your current character into it? Not sure I understand what you mean about picking skills you haven't tried yet, unless it is important back into the game like you can in ME games.
I can't play witcher 1 since I can only play on xbox and not the pc. I wish I had a comp I could play it on as with many games, but I am content with my xbox, but it still doesn't make me hope that maybe someday I will get a nice enough comp to game on too.
I am talking about dark mode, but it doesn't have anything to do with importing your character. Have you tried playing it yet or do you assume that you wouldn't be good enough? Admittedly, it is much more difficult than normal or hard in that enemies can kill you in just a few hits, but once you get used to it, it becomes quite fun and challenging rather than frustrating and exasperating. The unique outfits you can craft each chapter also make combat A LOT easier.
In terms of the skill tree, I'm referring to this:
http://vnmedia.ign.c...s/rpgplays2.jpg
I suggest you pick a branch on the skill tree you haven't tried yet because each one approaches combat differently and each is powerful in its own way. It's fun, that's all.
Edit: It's a shame you can't play the first Witcher game. As I said, it's a very good game in its own right.
Modifié par Weskerr, 22 juillet 2013 - 11:13 .
#24
Posté 05 août 2013 - 11:47
The games biggest and most stupid flaw is allowing you to play the prologue in a random order - stupid decision IMO.
Also, whilst i didn't find the combat bad I did find it felt a bit detached from the player and was too reliant on Geralt deciding to do what he wanted, instead of having the player decide for him.
Also, I wasn't keen on Roche's path - far more boring than the other IMO.
That all said it's still immense. The story and narrative are awesome, the characters are great and the "feel" of being a Witcher, whilst not perfect, is still great and very much fun. If they can take the good, sort out the bad and add a bit more good to boot they'll have an all time classic in TW3.
#25
Posté 06 août 2013 - 06:24
Excellent, excellent gameplay. I didn't so much like the combat in The Witcher, but didn't have any qualms about combat in the sequel. In fact, I loved how I could utilize combinations of sword skills, signs, potions and traps, where as in most games I'd focus exclusively on one skill set. I find it funny that most games claim to give you choice...well, I want to be a jack-of-all-trades. Most games don't let me do that; TW2 does. In fact, harder difficulties encourage strategic planning and resourcefulness. Love it.
Story as good. Not incredible, but good. Mostly I think the characters are well-written. The sex and nudity didn't detract from it for me. The only questionable sexual interaction was with the elf who wanted to offer herself to Geralt as payment for his help. Seemed slightly off. I found the scenes with Triss to be spot-on. I hope they continue that kind of thing going forward. Same goes to the ambiguous morality and dark world.





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