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This is a very minor gripe, but one thing I found odd was how all of your alien companions in Mass Effect were originally from their species homeworlds. Considering how some species like the Asari, Turians, and Salarians have been exploring and colonizing space for millennia, you'd think there would be a little bit more diversity in their origins.
 
Ironically its the human characters, who come from a species that has been exploring the galaxy for the shortest amount of time, that has the greatest diversity in origin. Joker is from Tiptree, Diana Allers is from Bekenstein, and Traynor grew up on Horizon. Although not stated in the game as far as I'm aware, Ashley is also a colonist, having been born on the planet Sirona in the Ursae Majoris System.

Assuming there are alien companions in the next Mass Effect game, I hope the writers give a few of them origins that lie outside of their species homeworlds. Besides it making sense that not every Turian, Asari, or Salarian you'd meet would come from their species' homeworlds, it would also provide an opportunity to expand the galaxy and the lore by revealing more settled planets or space stations.

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I recall Garrus being from Palaven and Liara being from Thessia. Where do you have the info about Mordin's and Samara's home from?
But all in all, I tend to agree.

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Forst1999 wrote...

I recall Garrus being from Palaven and Liara being from Thessia. Where do you have the info about Mordin's and Samara's home from?
But all in all, I tend to agree.


In LotSB the Shadow Broker files you can access on Samara lists a bunch of things that Samara gave up on becoming a Justicar. One of the items listed is a 4 bedroom house on Thessia.

I think you may be right on Mordin however, now that I think about it. On second thought I don't think his planet of origin is ever mentioned.

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Maybe clutching at straws but there's Grunt. Tali gets a by due to just about all quarians coming from the Migrant Fleet (there are probably a very small number living away from it with families).

You make a good point though, it feels a bit like a symptom of "one culture alien" syndrome.

There could just be a case of humans born on colonies are more likely to leave (with there being more available elsewhere) although it doesn't sound terribly convincing.

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Any info on Aria or Nyreen?
When I think about it, the info about Garrus and Liara also came very late and wasn't of much importance before their homes where destroyed. It might be interesting to give the companions` origins a bit more focus. Not to much, I don't want every conversation to be about their personal history (I thought DA:O overdid that a bit), but it's a nice addition to talking about their opinions and reactions to current events.

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It's possible the aliens from the homeworlds got better education, training and such. Which is why shepard meets a lot of these people.
Those worlds are also likely the most populus aswell.

As for the human colonies people... Maybe the colonies are so bad horrible and lacking in possibilities which is why they enlisted.

But having people come from different backgrounds coudl be good when it commes to squad/group banter.

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You know, Admiral Anderson was born in London.

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It could be writer's bias. Ya know, the Humans are the young, vibrant race so they're out there exploring the galaxy, seeding new worlds...while those grumpy old aliens just sit in their homeworlds shouting, "Stupid Humans! Get offa mah lawn!" But yea, I agree with Han.

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Han Shot First wrote...

Joker is from Tiptree


I should point out, Joker is actually not from Tiptree. His family lives there, but Joker was born and raised on Arcturus Station according to his Codex entry in ME3. He's essentially a Spacer.
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More aliens as a whole are needed in the next game. The original trilogy focused way too much on the human race, imo. Yes I know it was a story about human stepping onto the galactic stage, but it still was a bit too much. I mean we really never even got females of the alien races, until the last game. And even then they didn't get their own models, and were just males wearing more cloths.

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Forst1999 wrote...

Any info on Aria or Nyreen?

When I think about it, the info about Garrus and Liara also came very late and wasn't of much importance before their homes where destroyed. It might be interesting to give the companions` origins a bit more focus. Not to much, I don't want every conversation to be about their personal history (I thought DA:O overdid that a bit), but it's a nice addition to talking about their opinions and reactions to current events.


I don't remember Aria or Nyreen's origins ever being mentioned. If I'm wrong, someone correct me on that.

I agree with that it would be interesting to give the companions' origins more focus, without overdoing it. Spend too much time having characters chat about personal history and that conversation starts to feel like a codex entry. Its fine line between revealing just enough to expand the lore or establish character's backstory, without turning the entire convo into an info-dump.

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Han Shot First wrote...

Joker is from Tiptree


I should point out, Joker is actually not from Tiptree. His family lives there, but Joker was born and raised on Arcturus Station according to his Codex entry in ME3. He's essentially a Spacer.


Good point.

On that note and veering off topic in my own thread...I wonder if Spacer Shep and Joker may have ever crossed paths in their youth, even if they didn't realize it. Its never revealed what station(s) Spacer Shep grew up on, but considering its the main hub of the Alliance fleet a posting by one or both of Shepard's parents there at some point is probably likely.

And if so, that must have really sucked for Shepard in ME3. After all Arcturus gets pounded into space dust by the Reapers. Could have been some old friends lost there.

Of course Joker has it much worse. Old friends die on Arcturus. Family dies on Tiptree. EDI potentially dies in Destroy.

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ShadyKat wrote...

More aliens as a whole are needed in the next game. The original trilogy focused way too much on the human race, imo. Yes I know it was a story about human stepping onto the galactic stage, but it still was a bit too much. I mean we really never even got females of the alien races, until the last game. And even then they didn't get their own models, and were just males wearing more cloths.

The quarians and turians got different models although it took rather a long time before we saw a female turian. I suppose strictly speaking Eve is a different model but that doesn't really count.

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Thanes from that Hanar Homeworld, Javiks from who knows where, Grunts from a test tube, Morinths and Mordins from ? Talis from the Migrant Fleet,

TBH Id say less than half the alien squaddies are said to be from their homewrolds, but ye, more alien colonies would be nice.

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By the foul powers of necromancy....ARISE!!!!

 

Rather than create a new thread that was basically the same topic, I thought I'd give this one a bump. Hopefully in ME:Next the backstories for alien characters are a little more diverse, and they all aren't from their respective homeworlds. Throw a couple colonists or spacers into that mix.



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I agree.

Though it makes sense that humans would have a higher proportion of genuinely colonial backgrounds. A planet like Lusia with a couple of billion people that's been settled since before Alexander the Great can't really be called a colony

edit: Though in the existing trilogy, the time-line rather spoke against humans with extra-terrestrial origins. Lots of people would have been being born in space by the time of the game, but Shepard must have been one of the very first children to be born on Mindoir, for example.

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I agree with the topic. I would've also liked to see tensions between colonists and homeworld residents on both global and local scales. 



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Kaidan is from Earth, the homeworld

 

Ashley is from the colony of Sirona

 

Garrus is from Palaven, the homeworld

 

Wrex is from Tuchanka, the homeworld

 

Tali was born on the Migrant Fleet, so she's not a colonist so much as literally born in space.

 

Liara is from Thessia, the homeworld.

 

Miranda is never mentioned to be from anywhere specific, though its fairly reasonable to assume she's from Earth, given that she's Australian.

 

Jacob is never mentioned to be from anywhere specific, though going by his background, you can make a case for him being born on a colony.

 

Zaeed's age means that he predates interstellar colonization, and is thus from the Solar System (Sol system, really?) if not Earth itself.

 

Mordin is, as mentioned, not said to be from anywhere in particular; a case can be made for the homeworld or the colonies.

 

Jack, I believe, isn't from Earth, though I don't think it was ever mentioned.

 

Grunt is of course "born" on the Normandy itself.

 

Kasumi is never mentioned to be from anywhere in particular; as with others, she could be from Earth, or from a colony.

 

Thane is from Kajhe, the Hanar homeworld.

 

Samara is mentioned to at least at one point been residing on Thessia, if she's not actually from there. 

 

Morinth (if you recruited her) is from Thessia

 

Legion, being a synthetic being, really has no need in having a homeworld.

 

EDI is the same, being a creation by Cerberus.

 

James is from Earth.

 

Javik's world is never mentioned by name, with him mentioning that the Prothean homeworld had been destroyed hundreds of years before he was even born.

 

And lastly, your Shepard can be from Earth (mine is), from the Colonies (Mindoir), or born aboard a Naval ship, space station, or planet-side installation (I sense the latter two are most likely to be true for the spacer background.)


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You know, Admiral Anderson was born in London.

Really?



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In the earlier games the alien characters practically introduced their race and society to the player, so it made sence to me that they`re from the centre of their civilization. In future games, sure you can bring more colonist aliens if that adds something to the story or the universe (like cultural differences or political tensions between homeworld and colonist aliens). Otherwise I don't see the point. Is it really that important where Garrus or Liara are from?



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Kaidan is from Earth, the homeworld
 
Ashley is from the colony of Sirona
 
Garrus is from Palaven, the homeworld
 
Wrex is from Tuchanka, the homeworld
 
Tali was born on the Migrant Fleet, so she's not a colonist so much as literally born in space.
 
Liara is from Thessia, the homeworld.
 
Miranda is never mentioned to be from anywhere specific, though its fairly reasonable to assume she's from Earth, given that she's Australian.
 
Jacob is never mentioned to be from anywhere specific, though going by his background, you can make a case for him being born on a colony.
 
Zaeed's age means that he predates interstellar colonization, and is thus from the Solar System (Sol system, really?) if not Earth itself.
 
Mordin is, as mentioned, not said to be from anywhere in particular; a case can be made for the homeworld or the colonies.
 
Jack, I believe, isn't from Earth, though I don't think it was ever mentioned.
 
Grunt is of course "born" on the Normandy itself.
 
Kasumi is never mentioned to be from anywhere in particular; as with others, she could be from Earth, or from a colony.
 
Thane is from Kajhe, the Hanar homeworld.
 
Samara is mentioned to at least at one point been residing on Thessia, if she's not actually from there. 
 
Morinth (if you recruited her) is from Thessia
 
Legion, being a synthetic being, really has no need in having a homeworld.
 
EDI is the same, being a creation by Cerberus.
 
James is from Earth.
 
Javik's world is never mentioned by name, with him mentioning that the Prothean homeworld had been destroyed hundreds of years before he was even born.
 
And lastly, your Shepard can be from Earth (mine is), from the Colonies (Mindoir), or born aboard a Naval ship, space station, or planet-side installation (I sense the latter two are most likely to be true for the spacer background.)


Legion said that home is a familiar environment, with people you know. Something along those lines.

After completing that Geth Server mission you learn that the mission was more about Legion and the specific Geth in that server than it was about the overall mission or the Migrant fleet or anything else.
Legion just needed a Reaper killer to throw into his "hood" and save his close ones. There were billions of servers but that's the one Legion wanted to save from the Reaper's influence.

In other words, that seems to have been Legions home, pre-messiah search for Shepard.

Also, how come that server was already prepared to receive non-synthetic visitors? Legion had set it all up long ahead of time. When he jumped the shuttle he wasn't carrying a gigantic VR download module, and the Geth don't need em. Maybe while Shepard was imprisoned on earth or before that.

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I think there is no real coincidence that many of the companions are from their homeworlds. After all considering that the homeworlds are pretty much the highest populated world's in each species it would make sense that a larger proportion of them would leave the homeworld. Also Wrex and Thane don't count, both of their species are essentially limited to a single world. 

Also we don't know the true scale of the destruction of both the Rachni wars and the Krogan Rebellions, its possible that instead of just spreading out across the stars like humans they might be inclined to make larger colonies and develop them over a longer period. Then with asari, considering their thousand year lifespan that they had before spaceflight they don't reproduce as fast as humans simply due to how their society functions with such long lifespans.