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[Gr1ng0]

I've played a bunch of games against collectors recently. (U/U/G's, mostly pugs) 
They cheat a lot, which is no news on this forum. 

Let's look at two cheats - I believe they're both caused by a small amount of lag: 

1: Praetorian butt lazers: 
Big crab thing is facing the wall. Lazers shoot out of it's rear and takes you down
- Probably a bug in the animation states. It's better (and funnier) than having a badass enemy being easy prey whilst staing into the wall.

2: Collector Time Warp Ammo:
Running from soft cover to soft cover you a suddently time-reversed back about 0.5 secs in time to and exposed position and promptly dropped (Scions seem to use this consumable a lot and appears to drop you) 
- More visibly just caused by having a bit of lag. Annoying and not really funny. 

This made the collectors really quite nasty to play with a small amount of lag off host - not enough to be *that* noticable. I do think it's better that the enemey cheats this was as it makes for a better challenge and gives us all something to complain about.

So my question to you is: 

Which are the worst / easiest enemies to play off host with a bit of lag. 

Mine would be:
1: Collectors (worst)
- aggressive,  fast, ridiciously accurate, dot+aoe

2: Ceberus
- turrets + everything shoots, palm cannons

3: Reapers
- relatively easy with lag minus banshee magnet hands 

4: Geth (easiest) 
- Really slow, tends to cluster together, I've got time to strip shields, prime for BE blow 'em up before they can react. This process doesn't seem to suffer much from lag. 

[DHKany]

Geth.

I had prime shots go straight through walls.

[robarcool]

Geth. Rockets going through walls, prime shots pulling you back in position you think you dodged etc. But Collectors come a close second due to those Scions. They are similar to primes.

[Titus Thongger]

I'd have to say collectors because of the sheer amount of AoE damage they have and that praetorian lasers can go through soft cover at times.

Also with lag it makes it impossible to get out of clusterbombs or dodge lasers in time.

Geth are a close second. their pulse cannons are nigh undodgeable.

Cerby comes next because phantom palm cannon

reapers... only real danger from lag are marauders and banshee magnets

[Gr1ng0]

DHKany wrote...

Geth.

I had prime shots go straight through walls.

Agree! Primes are really annoying with lag.  I try and use hard cover a lot. But... the collectors still have the cover penetrating butt lazers AND scion cross-map sniping you back in time.  

EDIT: I've been playing kits with stagger ability (Venom, arcocutch, falcon etc) lately which seem to help a lot against the geth + lag in general. Any DoT is good too. 

Modifié par Gr1ng0, 23 juillet 2013 - 07:37 .

[Crimson Vanguard]

Space Magic is the hardest one.

[d_nought]

Cerberus?

I dunno, they're all pretty bad, but Phantoms have this funny thing where they're okay off host until you get enough lag and then you get meleed from nowhere and can't escape even if you dodge, which is the main reason I hate non dodge classes with very few exceptions, namely, those that can stagger phantoms. inb4 Scorpion secondary, yes I carry it sometimes, but it just feels like rock paper scissors.

Praetorians second because dodging their attacks is very annoying on lag.

Modifié par d_nought, 23 juillet 2013 - 07:35 .

[the slynx]

I really do find Collectors matches laggier than other factions.

Feasibly, any faction with a combination of fast-moving enemies that dart around (swarms, abominations) and high-damage AoE attacks (Collector bosses) are going to cause problems. Geth stunlock is pretty annoying too, combined with lag.

[Kirrahe Airlines CEO]

From easiest to hardest:

1. Reapers
2. Collectors
3. Geth (stun locking really angers me)
4. Cerberus (D&P Gang are flipping lethal along with ninja engys)

Mind you this is from my plat/gold experiences. Bronze and silver all factions are manageable.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

I'd say collectors are the hardest, but my second favourite faction to face.

[Pee Jae]

Eh, lag is just damned annoying any way you slice it. But, (there's always a butt) for me, easiest to hardest:

1. Cerberus
2. Reapers
3. Geth
4. Collectors

I hate geth and collectors now. I literally groan if I pause and see that we've pulled either faction. For some reason, I never can play offensively against those two factions. I have to take a defensive stance against the wall of DPS coming at me. You know that Falling Skies commercial? "TAKE COVER! COVER! COVER! (((((COVER!)))))"

Yeah. That.

[TheNightSlasher]

The toughest faction for me is definitely the collectors due to wall piercing hacks, ridiculous AoE and DoT damage. But atleast I find them challenging and enjoy them a bit. I find Geth extremely annoying especially when playing a squishy character like Drell adept. Once he gets stunned, its pretty much death on Gold.

My list (easiest to toughest):
1. Reapers
2. Geth (but they are the most annoying)
3. Cerberus
4. Collectors

[capn233]

I think it depends on class.

Collectors might be worse for the fragile classes since the Captains or even Troopers can down you faster than most other basic units with their assault rifles, and the lasers may actually hit you before it is rendered, and Scion can lock you out of cover.

Geth is overall pretty bad off-host for a lot of characters, but non-dodging characters especially can just get stunned to death from siege snipes, triple rockets, staggered hunters, etc.

[RustyBuckets02]

b00g13man wrote...

I'd say collectors are the hardest, but my second favourite faction to face.

Geth being your favourite I presume :innocent:.

[NuclearTech76]

Geth are by far the hardest with or without lag unless you have a kit specifically designed to own their ass like the MQE.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

rusty221 wrote...

b00g13man wrote...

I'd say collectors are the hardest, but my second favourite faction to face.

Geth being your favourite I presume :innocent:.

:sick: