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[Bionuts]

Isn't the cast of ME2 full of psychopaths?

[Cainhurst Crow]

David! Miranda isn't in dragon age. If you want to argue about miranda, take it to the mass effect forums and stop spamming the DA forums about things you don't know about.

[Dextro Milk]

AresKeith wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I didn't say every character. I probably wouldn't include Mordin on the list. As for Jack, yes, she absolutely has issues in ME 2.

No, being subservient is not a flaw. People should not vilified for making such a choice.

What characters do you think is perfect?

This.

[spirosz]

Bionuts wrote...

Isn't the cast of ME2 full of psychopaths?

No... 

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Bionuts wrote...

Isn't the cast of ME2 full of psychopaths?

Some of them. Jack is definitely one. Grunt has a case.

Not a problem for a person like me who is naturally detached and morally/ethically gray and ambiguous.

But it's not true in whole, no.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 23 juillet 2013 - 11:24 .

[The Elder King]

Ryzaki wrote...

Being too much of anything is a flaw. Even good things are bad in excess.

Also...the only character (with decent character development) I'd argue WASN'T flawed in ME was...um...yeah...um...damn...um..CRAP.

Someone give me a character cause I can't think of a single one.

The Catalyst?

[The Elder King]

David7204 wrote...

I didn't say every character. I probably wouldn't include Mordin on the list. As for Jack, yes, she absolutely has issues in ME 2.

No, being subservient is not a flaw. People should not vilified for making such a choice.

Being subservient IS a flaw. Of course, being subservient=/=being under someone's command. You can be a subordinate and not being subservient.

[Sylvius the Mad]

David7204 wrote...

I tell you what. What don't you save us all some time and lay our your little agenda for us all to hear? I'm sure you're just itching to...'enlighten' me.

My agenda is typically to get other people to understand their own positions better.

In your case, I'm just surprised to meet a Moral Perfectionist.

Modifié par Sylvius the Mad, 23 juillet 2013 - 11:26 .

[Dextro Milk]

David7204 wrote...

Shepard. Liara. Garrus. Tali. EDI. Jack in ME 3.

NO.

I MAY love Tali, but she is not perfect.

DAVID. JUST STOP. FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD IN THE WORLD.

[wolfhowwl]

Y'all Spectres are arguing in the wrong forum.

[Cainhurst Crow]

David7204 wrote...

Shepard. Liara. Garrus. Tali. EDI. Jack in ME 3.

None of these characters are dragon age related. Why are you listing them here?

[TheKomandorShepard]

**** everthing can be flaw one could say that being athletic because someone can prefer skeletons , or that someone drink to much for another drink not enough.Are we talking about humans who always have some flaws but can have that their flaws don't get them in way or we talking about perfect life form whitout flaws.

[Steelcan]

Reported David for spam and derailing.

Play DA:O then you can talk about Dragon Age

[Ryzaki]

hhh89 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Being too much of anything is a flaw. Even good things are bad in excess.

Also...the only character (with decent character development) I'd argue WASN'T flawed in ME was...um...yeah...um...damn...um..CRAP.

Someone give me a character cause I can't think of a single one.

The Catalyst?

LMFAO

I did say decent character development. Those five minutes of "I kill your species for reasons" don't count.

David7204 wrote...

Shepard. Liara. Garrus. Tali. EDI. Jack in ME 3.

Shepard : Many many times Shepard has shown him/herself to be blunt (and let's not mention the many flaws of renedouche) and pretty um...dense. (Conversations with Wrex and Liara in ME1 come to mind). Not to mention he/she snaping at people who did nothing to deserve it (Joker).

Liara: Possessive, vengeful (her ditching Shepard to fall while she chased after Vasir wasn't a good look.) 

Garrus: Bad judgement (Sidionus incident), too willing to let Shep take the reigns (Even if it always works out)

Tali: Low self esteem (I can't believe a guy like you...), Everytime she leads a squad it ends in disaster

EDI: I don't like EDI so I never listen to her enough to get a good widge on her flaws. Other than her being bleh with Joker. Edit: Oh Deinon reminded me. Extremely codependant. Secretive (keeping the Illusive man's attempt to hack to herself under control or not) Manipulative (even if it's usually for good reasons).

Jack in ME3: Still has an attitude problem even if it was toned down. (But I tend to kill Jack off in ME2 so I'm not too sure about her in ME3).

Modifié par Ryzaki, 23 juillet 2013 - 11:35 .

[DeinonSlayer]

David7204 wrote...

Shepard. Liara. Garrus. Tali. EDI. Jack in ME 3.

Prone to idiocy. Multiple-personality disorder. Defers to Shepard's judgement instead of standing on his own. Panics when her species is on the chopping block. Changes her entire world view with the mildest suggestion. DOESN'T HAVE A SWEAR JAR.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

wolfhowwl wrote...

Y'all Spectres are arguing in the wrong forum.

I'm fine talking about DA.

David only talks about it when he thinks it does something wrong (which is damn near everything).

He's never played either game.

[Steelcan]

please don't get me started on Liara, EDI, and ME3 Jack.....

[Bionuts]

Didn't EDI cheat on Joker with Traynor?

[MassivelyEffective0730]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Shepard. Liara. Garrus. Tali. EDI. Jack in ME 3.

Prone to idiocy. Multiple-personality disorder. Defers to Shepard's judgement instead of standing on his own. Panics when her species is on the chopping block. Changes her entire world view with the mildest suggestion. DOESN'T HAVE A SWEAR JAR.

Yep. These are all flaws.

Shepard is prone to idiocy in ME3, despite player agency I might add.

[spirosz]

Bionuts wrote...

Didn't EDI cheat on Joker with Traynor?

She cheated on Joker with Liara. 

[David7204]

And now we're at those silly complaints I mentioned otherwise.

Being 'flawless' doesn't and shouldn't mean an all-knowing all-powerful God.

There's utterly nothing wrong with deferring to someone's judgement.
Being upset at the extermination of your species is not a 'flaw.'
Tali's reaction to the romance is perfectly natural and justified.
Liara does not have a 'disorder.'

Modifié par David7204, 23 juillet 2013 - 11:36 .

[Ryzaki]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Shepard. Liara. Garrus. Tali. EDI. Jack in ME 3.

Prone to idiocy. Multiple-personality disorder. Defers to Shepard's judgement instead of standing on his own. Panics when her species is on the chopping block. Changes her entire world view with the mildest suggestion. DOESN'T HAVE A SWEAR JAR.

Yep. These are all flaws.

Shepard is prone to idiocy in ME3, despite player agency I might add.

Worst part about it. At least in ME1 and ME2 you could avoid MOST of the idiocy (Some still slapped you in the face though). ME3? Nope. No dodging.

[Steelcan]

David7204 wrote...
Liara does not have a 'disorder.'

Sge doesnt have "a", she has multiple

[Cainhurst Crow]

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Well said david. Well said.

[Dextro Milk]

David7204 wrote...

And now we're at those silly complaints I mentioned otherwise.

Being 'flawless' doesn't and shouldn't mean an all-knowing all-powerful God.

There's utterly nothing wrong with deferring to someone's judgement.
Being upset at the extermination of your species is not a 'flaw.'
Tali's reaction to the romance is perfectly natural and justified.
Liara does not have a 'disorder.'

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