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[Redbelle]

Why might more games like ME3 put BW in trouble in future?

company income = consumer confidence.

[chemiclord]

Fandango9641 wrote...

Damage to their reputation perchance Alan? I'm certainly going to be avoiding anything Mass Effect going forwards and won't be purchasing Inquisition at launch, whereas in the past I would have gladly preordered collectors editions for both. And I'm sure I'm not alone in that.

Well, we really aren't going to know how much "damage" was done until further down the road as these next games start going gold and pre-orders start opening up.  It's a dangerous assumption to make that the BSN represents an accurate cross-section of the fanbase as a whole (the numbers that Bioware HAS managed to give suggest quite strongly it is not).

[DirtyPhoenix]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

dcal31 wrote...

iakus wrote...

AC3 doesn't pretend your choices made a difference.

In fairness, when the basic premise of the game is that you are reliving someone else's memories, your technically not making any choices. It's basically an interactive storybook. That being said, AC3 was by no means a bad game.

Assassin's Creed 3 is not a "bad game" it's just a terrible assassin's creed game.It doesn't feel like an Assassin's creed game.More like Pirates Creed

Its a good thing in my books.

[AlanC9]

Fandango9641 wrote...
Damage to their reputation perchance Alan? I'm certainly going to be avoiding anything Mass Effect going forwards and won't be purchasing Inquisition at launch, whereas in the past I would have gladly preordered collectors editions for both. And I'm sure I'm not alone in that.

It's not inconceivable that their reputation's been damaged.  Whether that's actually true....

[CR121691]

iakus wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Wow, that video... That video hurt.

That was bad.

And it's probably exactly the kind of "feedback" Bioware looks for and listens to as well.

Yeah great thinking for other people! Way to go!

[Pee Jae]

I agree with Justin, for the most part. As the ending to one game, with a sequel looming, it wouldn't have been a bad way to end it. But, not the ... magnum opus for the entire series. There was just too much left unsaid. I do think the extended cut helped a great deal. I didn't get everything I wanted from it, but as I've said before, I think it's a good compromise between "artistic integrity" and fan outrage. It makes me able to play the game again and not completely loathe the entire final act.

I still think there should have been a way to win conventionally without the crucible or catalyst, but that's an entirely different subject.

[CR121691]

I never felt that the endings were terrible. The first time I beated the game I was like: ''Damn is this why people are insulting and threatening developers?'' I was okish with the original endings but was very happy with the Extended Cut DLC. They showed they listened and cared and I am even more satisfied then I already was.

[o Ventus]

CR121691 wrote...

iakus wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Wow, that video... That video hurt.

That was bad.

And it's probably exactly the kind of "feedback" Bioware looks for and listens to as well.

Yeah great thinking for other people! Way to go!

No, he's right.

[CR121691]

o Ventus wrote...

CR121691 wrote...

iakus wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Wow, that video... That video hurt.

That was bad.

And it's probably exactly the kind of "feedback" Bioware looks for and listens to as well.

Yeah great thinking for other people! Way to go!

No, he's right.

No he thinks he's right.

[o Ventus]

CR121691 wrote...

No he thinks he's right.

No, he's right.

Nobody short of a masochist goes looking for critical feedback.

Modifié par o Ventus, 25 juillet 2013 - 08:38 .

[Mr. Gogeta34]

Would've helped if GT staff stayed on topic instead of talking about "the journey to the ending" or "we've got to respect the artistic integrity of the developers" instead of actually addressing the fact that ME3's original ending was horribly inconsistent and plot hole-ridden.

Then again, the gaming media never really addressed ME3's endings to begin with... only the fans did. 

You'd have to reeeeally be half-paying attention to consider an ending narrative with plot holes delivered almost every minute for 10 minutes straight to be "satisfactory."

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 25 juillet 2013 - 09:07 .

[crimzontearz]

Eterna5 wrote...

"next time I'll know to expect less"

So much butthurt.

no, simple logic. ME3 had quality issues all around, the ending just overshadowed at first and then highlighted them once it was clear Bioware was not going to really listen to the desires of the fans. Since apparently we are stuck with the SAME head writer and a wholly different team who is responsible for MP at large and omega in the specific of the SP aspect of the game for ME4 then exactly WHY should I not take that approach??

Modifié par crimzontearz, 25 juillet 2013 - 12:09 .

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

crimzontearz wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

"next time I'll know to expect less"

So much butthurt.

no, simple logic. ME3 had quality issues all around, the ending just overshadowed at first and then highlighted them once it was clear Bioware was not going to really listen to the desires of the fans. Since apparently we are stuck with the SAME head writer and a wholly different team who is responsible for MP at large and omega in the specific of the SP aspect of the game for ME4 then exactly WHY should I not take that approach??

ME1 and ME2 have even bigger issues.It's just fanboyism and butthurt for the endings that makes everyone ignore them

[crimzontearz]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

"next time I'll know to expect less"

So much butthurt.

no, simple logic. ME3 had quality issues all around, the ending just overshadowed at first and then highlighted them once it was clear Bioware was not going to really listen to the desires of the fans. Since apparently we are stuck with the SAME head writer and a wholly different team who is responsible for MP at large and omega in the specific of the SP aspect of the game for ME4 then exactly WHY should I not take that approach??

ME1 and ME2 have even bigger issues.It's just fanboyism and butthurt for the endings that makes everyone ignore them

I know they do and I know where ME2&3 improved upon their predecessors, but my point remains, all signs point to a game I personally might not enjoy, so I will keep my expectations low...if I am wrong I will be pleasantly surprised.

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

crimzontearz wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

"next time I'll know to expect less"

So much butthurt.

no, simple logic. ME3 had quality issues all around, the ending just overshadowed at first and then highlighted them once it was clear Bioware was not going to really listen to the desires of the fans. Since apparently we are stuck with the SAME head writer and a wholly different team who is responsible for MP at large and omega in the specific of the SP aspect of the game for ME4 then exactly WHY should I not take that approach??

ME1 and ME2 have even bigger issues.It's just fanboyism and butthurt for the endings that makes everyone ignore them

I know they do and I know where ME2&3 improved upon their predecessors, but my point remains, all signs point to a game I personally might not enjoy, so I will keep my expectations low...if I am wrong I will be pleasantly surprised.

of course,your expectations should always be low when it comes to BioWare.BioWare is overrated

[crimzontearz]

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

"next time I'll know to expect less"

So much butthurt.

no, simple logic. ME3 had quality issues all around, the ending just overshadowed at first and then highlighted them once it was clear Bioware was not going to really listen to the desires of the fans. Since apparently we are stuck with the SAME head writer and a wholly different team who is responsible for MP at large and omega in the specific of the SP aspect of the game for ME4 then exactly WHY should I not take that approach??

ME1 and ME2 have even bigger issues.It's just fanboyism and butthurt for the endings that makes everyone ignore them

I know they do and I know where ME2&3 improved upon their predecessors, but my point remains, all signs point to a game I personally might not enjoy, so I will keep my expectations low...if I am wrong I will be pleasantly surprised.

of course,your expectations should always be low when it comes to BioWare.BioWare is overrated

I enjoyed Baldur's gate, I enjoyed MDK, I loved ME 1 & 2 and DAO...there was no reason for ny expectations to be low for ME3, now there are 2 precedents one worse than the other telling me I should keep my expectations low, thus I will

[spirosz]

Eterna5 wrote...

"next time I'll know to expect less"

So much butthurt.

What. 

Being realistic is now a form of butthurt?  My mind.  

Modifié par spirosz, 25 juillet 2013 - 12:46 .

[FreshRevenge]

I never liked the ending the first time around and I still don't like the endings this time. It felt like a big fat waste of time doing anything for those choices given at the end. Sorry Bioware needs and still needs to fix the ending before I move on to another game of theirs! Now as long as the team who made Mass Effect 3 doesn't taint Dragon Age, I am good

[Iakus]

spirosz wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

"next time I'll know to expect less"

So much butthurt.

What. 

Being realistic is now a form of butthurt?  My mind.  

Having realistic expectations is not realistic 

[wolfhowwl]

crimzontearz wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

IntelligentME3Fanboy wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

"next time I'll know to expect less"

So much butthurt.

no, simple logic. ME3 had quality issues all around, the ending just overshadowed at first and then highlighted them once it was clear Bioware was not going to really listen to the desires of the fans. Since apparently we are stuck with the SAME head writer and a wholly different team who is responsible for MP at large and omega in the specific of the SP aspect of the game for ME4 then exactly WHY should I not take that approach??

ME1 and ME2 have even bigger issues.It's just fanboyism and butthurt for the endings that makes everyone ignore them

I know they do and I know where ME2&3 improved upon their predecessors, but my point remains, all signs point to a game I personally might not enjoy, so I will keep my expectations low...if I am wrong I will be pleasantly surprised.

of course,your expectations should always be low when it comes to BioWare.BioWare is overrated

I enjoyed Baldur's gate, I enjoyed MDK, I loved ME 1 & 2 and DAO...there was no reason for ny expectations to be low for ME3, now there are 2 precedents one worse than the other telling me I should keep my expectations low, thus I will

Dragon Age 2 wasn't a huge red flag?