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#101
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Official DJ Harbinger wrote...

I wonder how many of the people from GameTrailers who "disagreed" were being paid from EAWare, or maybe they're just stupid.


It does make you wonder... given the timing of it all...


Why didn't Gametrailers address the endings in their original review of the game?  Where did their standards go for coherent storytelling and logical narratives?

ME3's ending did not have a logical narrative or a coherent story... this is not debatable.  We've tried for months, it's just not there.  If having an inconsistent, plot-hole-ridden, lore-breaking ending is something to be considered "terrible," then ME3's ending was terrible.  That's a fact.

"The Journey" and "Artistic Integrity" have nothing to do with it.  Why do writers normally make multiple drafts?  Because artistic integrity does not excuse bad writing or corner-cutting.

And all of us know that Bioware is better than that

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 25 juillet 2013 - 06:41 .


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"Next time I'll know to expect less."

Pretty much sums it up. While I was never angry or upset with the ending, it never reached my expectations.

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I don't know exactly what I expected, but I certainly didn't expect to feel like crud in the end. I think I was looking forward to an immediate second playthrough before I got to the final thud.

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Really? So now we're throwing bribery accusations around for people having a different opinion?

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Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...


And all of us know that Bioware is better than that[/b][/i]


We do?

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

Really? So now we're throwing bribery accusations around for people having a different opinion?


Yes, we are. We've been doing that since the first reviews came out.

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I'm not sure I should watch this or not, now.

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

Really? So now we're throwing bribery accusations around for people having a different opinion?


You're not surprised, are you? This is hardly a new thing around these parts.

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ruggly wrote...

I'm not sure I should watch this or not, now.


Just imagine nearly every positive and negative thing said about the endings over the past sixteen months, stripped totheir  base general position and voiced by different GT folks. There's literally nothing gained or lost by this video, outside of rustled jimmies.

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dreamgazer wrote...

ruggly wrote...

I'm not sure I should watch this or not, now.


Just imagine nearly every positive and negative thing said about the endings over the past sixteen months, stripped totheir  base general position and voiced by different GT folks. There's literally nothing gained or lost by this video, outside of rustled jimmies.


That about sums it up.

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Gametrailers Final Verdict:

Kangaroo court shenanigans.

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 25 juillet 2013 - 08:49 .


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dreamgazer wrote...

ruggly wrote...

I'm not sure I should watch this or not, now.


Just imagine nearly every positive and negative thing said about the endings over the past sixteen months, stripped totheir  base general position and voiced by different GT folks. There's literally nothing gained or lost by this video, outside of rustled jimmies.


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I checked the internet Before and they talked that ME4 could be a prequal.

If that is true, then bioware have learned nothing, absoloutley nothing from DA2 incident.

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Wow, haters can't simply accept the fact that they may be the vocal minority.

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txgoldrush wrote...

Wow, haters can't simply accept the fact that they may be the vocal minority.


There's nothing to indicate that "haters" are the minority.

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o Ventus wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Wow, haters can't simply accept the fact that they may be the vocal minority.


There's nothing to indicate that "haters" are the minority.


93 Metacritic and almost 5 million in sales....such a backlash.

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txgoldrush wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Wow, haters can't simply accept the fact that they may be the vocal minority.


There's nothing to indicate that "haters" are the minority.


93 Metacritic and almost 5 million in sales....such a backlash.

And yet, they made the Extended Cut.

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 25 juillet 2013 - 10:48 .


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txgoldrush wrote...

93 Metacritic and almost 5 million in sales....such a backlash.


Reviewers who had nothing invested in the story liked the first hour or so, and a ton of people preordered it thatnks to ME1 and ME2

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txgoldrush wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Wow, haters can't simply accept the fact that they may be the vocal minority.


There's nothing to indicate that "haters" are the minority.


93 Metacritic and almost 5 million in sales....such a backlash.


Ok and?

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txgoldrush wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Wow, haters can't simply accept the fact that they may be the vocal minority.


There's nothing to indicate that "haters" are the minority.


93 Metacritic and almost 5 million in sales....such a backlash.


1. Compared to the 4.8 in user reviews.

2. Because Metacritic is reliable.

3. I wonder how many of those sales were returned?

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txgoldrush wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Wow, haters can't simply accept the fact that they may be the vocal minority.


There's nothing to indicate that "haters" are the minority.


93 Metacritic and almost 5 million in sales....such a backlash.


About 4 of those 5 million players probably don't give a single **** about the ending since less than half of them bothered to finish the game.
Truth is No one outside the "hardcore" fanbase really gives a dam, including the reviewers & You have to admit that the reaction/rage over the ending was the biggest in gaming history, regardless if it was just 1 hundred thousand or so fans making their voices heard.

 

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o Ventus wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Wow, haters can't simply accept the fact that they may be the vocal minority.


There's nothing to indicate that "haters" are the minority.


93 Metacritic and almost 5 million in sales....such a backlash.


1. Compared to the 4.8 in user reviews.

2. Because Metacritic is reliable.

3. I wonder how many of those sales were returned?


Or even bothered finishing the game and just played MP

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AlanC9 wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...


And all of us know that Bioware is better than that[/b][/i]


We do?


Yes, everyone can do better.Image IPB

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txgoldrush wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Wow, haters can't simply accept the fact that they may be the vocal minority.


There's nothing to indicate that "haters" are the minority.


93 Metacritic and almost 5 million in sales....such a backlash.

1. The user rating on Metacritic is a measly 4.8, what was your point again?

2. The haters would've had to buy the game in order to dislike it, you numpty.

Modifié par Finn the Jakey, 25 juillet 2013 - 11:05 .


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Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

Official DJ Harbinger wrote...

I wonder how many of the people from GameTrailers who "disagreed" were being paid from EAWare, or maybe they're just stupid.


It does make you wonder... given the timing of it all...


Why didn't Gametrailers address the endings in their original review of the game?  Where did their standards go for coherent storytelling and logical narratives?

ME3's ending did not have a logical narrative or a coherent story... this is not debatable.  We've tried for months, it's just not there.  If having an inconsistent, plot-hole-ridden, lore-breaking ending is something to be considered "terrible," then ME3's ending was terrible.  That's a fact.

"The Journey" and "Artistic Integrity" have nothing to do with it.  Why do writers normally make multiple drafts?  Because artistic integrity does not excuse bad writing or corner-cutting.

And all of us know that Bioware is better than that


They gave ME2 a 9.7 which was a mediocre cover shooter with one of the most illogical and incoherent story or narrative in any game told with a straight face.

So, I don't see why they'd start complaining about a lack of a decent narrative or story now.

Modifié par Seboist, 25 juillet 2013 - 11:05 .