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[Mr.House]

bleetman wrote...



What the hell is that.

Poor mans X-Man.

[AresKeith]

Mr.House wrote...

bleetman wrote...



What the hell is that.

Poor mans X-Man.

"Hey look guys I'm wolverine!" *herp derp*

[Seboist]

Does a poor man's Spider-man or Batman show up in this too?

[Cainhurst Crow]

Morocco Mole wrote...

lol@people still taking the comics seriously. They've never been good.

The garrus one was good, but that was one that didn't focus on much of anything tbh.

[Cainhurst Crow]

RaduM wrote...

lostmercenary99 wrote...


If the foreman is Cerberus he could easily manipulate the information so that they wouldn't be any the wiser.

Personally I really liked this comic as a starting point. There are still 12 more issues to go to see where this leads us.

Easily, huh.

Reminds me of children playing. "I'm holding a super-duper laser-ray! " "Yeah? Well I have a super-duper-duper armor that stops your super-duper laser ray"

Of course you can say *anything* is easy (or anything is hard). But let's be serious.

Mass Effect's appeal is in the "hardness" of its sci-fi (phenomena are explained and have roots in our current understanding of physics) and also in the believability of actions (humanity is not the center of the universe, they are just newcomers) among other things.

Well, I don't know how to tell you this, but the Mass Effect mythos does not paint the Alliance as being led by either fools or crooked opportunits.

I'm not sure how aware you are of how, say, organized crime works, but the short version is that organized crime dedicates part of its profits to pay off the authorities. That's how it survives.

Same here. Sure, Cerberus could potentially operate right across the block in the Vancouver Alliance HQ, *IF* the right people are paid off.

Suffice it to say that the concept of Cerberus having the entire upper administration of the Alliance in its pocket is laughably ridiculous.

At least by what has been established so far.

EDIT : Echoing what ElitePinecone said, it feels as though we are seeing ever-increasing Cerberus "power creep" earlier and earlier in its history.

Isn't this the same alliance who let a pro-slavery pirate run wild in the attican traverse because he promised to go after batarians mostly, than tried to orchestrate his death, which can end up backfiring and lead to the alliance working with him more to keep quiet?

Also the same alliance who allowed an entire team of soliders to get massacured on akuze and had absolutely no idea that the operation may have been the work of cerberus?

Also the same orginization who allowed a psychopathic military commander slaughter an entire hide out of pirates on torfan, and caused massive casualties to his men, and didn't face reprocussions?

Not to mention turning a blind eye to multiple colonies just up and vanishing, than sending only 1 officer to oversee a vital construction endevour to fortify a colony?

Also the same alliance who funded massive ammounts of money into developing AI's, even after signing a declaration stating that under no circumstances would they engage in AI research, than tried to have the lead researcher killed when he ended up getting indoctrinated and smuggling himself out of the project.

The alliance ain't sunshine and rainbows, and they have been known to coverup more than they have share with the public.

Also didn't cerberus manage to kill an acting admiral in the alliance with virtually no reprocussions unless shepard steps in? That would say they have a lot of power if they thought they could pull something like that off.

[MrFob]

Seboist wrote...

Does a poor man's Spider-man or Batman show up in this too?

Arguablly, BioWare did a better job with both, Spiderman and Batman.

[Iakus]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Isn't this the same alliance who let a pro-slavery pirate run wild in the attican traverse because he promised to go after batarians mostly, than tried to orchestrate his death, which can end up backfiring and lead to the alliance working with him more to keep quiet?

Also the same alliance who allowed an entire team of soliders to get massacured on akuze and had absolutely no idea that the operation may have been the work of cerberus?

Also the same orginization who allowed a psychopathic military commander slaughter an entire hide out of pirates on torfan, and caused massive casualties to his men, and didn't face reprocussions?

Not to mention turning a blind eye to multiple colonies just up and vanishing, than sending only 1 officer to oversee a vital construction endevour to fortify a colony?

Also the same alliance who funded massive ammounts of money into developing AI's, even after signing a declaration stating that under no circumstances would they engage in AI research, than tried to have the lead researcher killed when he ended up getting indoctrinated and smuggling himself out of the project.

The alliance ain't sunshine and rainbows, and they have been known to coverup more than they have share with the public.

Also didn't cerberus manage to kill an acting admiral in the alliance with virtually no reprocussions unless shepard steps in? That would say they have a lot of power if they thought they could pull something like that off.

Like I said, Cerberus is teh freaking Iluminati of the Mass Effect universe, secretly running virtually the entire Alliance while only Adam Jensen Commander Shepard seems capable of oppsing them (or aligning with them, whatever the story demands.

Seriously, it seems about 90% of the Alliance's problems are Cerberus projects gone horribly wrong or gone horribly right.

[Cainhurst Crow]

And everything else is either because of the batarians or because their own plots and schemes have failed. This was around since mass effect 1 and was portrayed as such in the novels, one of which predates me2, so I don't see how any of this is shocking.

Also if the illusive man wasn't a big enough giveaway that "surprise, we're the big bads" than I don't know what would have been a bigger tell. Maybe a big german national socialist-esque symbols hung along the walls.

[o Ventus]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

The statement by Patrick Weekes that Mac and Casey shut all the other writers out of the ending was some troll who hacked his account on Penny Arcade looking to stir up drama.

I must have been asleep when this was confirmed. 

[Argentoid]

The Grey Nayr wrote...
And all the hate solely focused on Mac Walters and Casey Hudson is due to lies. The statement by Patrick Weekes that Mac and Casey shut all the other writers out of the ending was some troll who hacked his account on Penny Arcade looking to stir up drama. And anybody who would think about it without a mind of of hate would realize after eight years of working on Mass Effect with the entire team, they wouldn't do something so asinine as to hog the ending all to themselves. And even the other writers besides Weekes have stated that they all approved of the ending before it shipped out, and that the controversy has been a "learning experience".

Well... Penny Arcade administrators, citing privacy issues, stated only that the deletions were done at the owner's request. The resultant removal and re-attribution of the comments to an unspecified imitator can easily be seen as a belated attempt to protect both BioWare's public image and Weekes' career with the company.

And get the ME3: The Final Hours app... it's makes it clear that Casey and Mac were responsible for the endings. Drones this days believe anything.

Modifié par Argentoid, 25 juillet 2013 - 05:35 .

[CR121691]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that nobody liked issue 1 of Foundation.

You guys wouldn't like it no matter how well done it is. You just want another reason to hate and complain, not actual satisfaction.

This is lingering Mac Walters ME3 Ending Resentment spilling in to his other works. You're never gonna let him live it down because Bioware refused to redo the ending and just expanded on it. So hating on everything Mac Walters has done(which includes Garrus in Mass Effect 1 if nobody noticed) and ever will do, despite him being a part of the ME team since the very beginning, being approved by Drew Karpyshyn to be his co-lead writer in ME2, and his replacement for ME3, out of some perverted sense of boycotting.

And all the hate solely focused on Mac Walters and Casey Hudson is due to lies. The statement by Patrick Weekes that Mac and Casey shut all the other writers out of the ending was some troll who hacked his account on Penny Arcade looking to stir up drama. And anybody who would think about it without a mind of of hate would realize after eight years of working on Mass Effect with the entire team, they wouldn't do something so asinine as to hog the ending all to themselves. And even the other writers besides Weekes have stated that they all approved of the ending before it shipped out, and that the controversy has been a "learning experience".

I am totally with you!

[RaduM]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Isn't this the same alliance who let a pro-slavery pirate run wild in the attican traverse because he promised to go after batarians mostly, than tried to orchestrate his death, which can end up backfiring and lead to the alliance working with him more to keep quiet?

Also the same alliance who allowed an entire team of soliders to get massacured on akuze and had absolutely no idea that the operation may have been the work of cerberus?

Also the same orginization who allowed a psychopathic military commander slaughter an entire hide out of pirates on torfan, and caused massive casualties to his men, and didn't face reprocussions?

Not to mention turning a blind eye to multiple colonies just up and vanishing, than sending only 1 officer to oversee a vital construction endevour to fortify a colony?

Also the same alliance who funded massive ammounts of money into developing AI's, even after signing a declaration stating that under no circumstances would they engage in AI research, than tried to have the lead researcher killed when he ended up getting indoctrinated and smuggling himself out of the project.

The alliance ain't sunshine and rainbows, and they have been known to coverup more than they have share with the public.

Also didn't cerberus manage to kill an acting admiral in the alliance with virtually no reprocussions unless shepard steps in? That would say they have a lot of power if they thought they could pull something like that off.

We are talking about the difference between a "weak" government (like, say, Mexico) and a "strong" one (like say Germany).

The difference between having cliques and camarillas operate under the radar of the government and parasiting said government and *not* having that situation.

The fact that a state employs proxies, and said proxies blow up in its face (Afghanistan, anyone?), is a *lot* different than having, say, the Mafia/Al Qaeda/KGB/etc implicated in building the Capitol/White House/Pentagon/Newest Supercarrier/what-have-you.

Would you be surprised to hear that the Drug Lords have contacts inside Mexico's secret service? No, of course not, the Mexican Government is so full of holes it's practically swiss cheese.

Now imagine a story where a Drug Lord has access to the US President's "nuclear football" (google it). Tell me that doesn't elicit a facepalm.

Having Cerberus be powerful and even having Cerberus find sympathetic figures among the Alliance higher echelons is fine. Having Cerberus be that kid that always says "I have an Infinity+1 Mega-Unstoppable Super-Duper Gun that pierces through anything" is just annoying.

Simply moving goalposts, roiding up Cerberus out of thin just to make the drama "bigger" is a cheap way of setting up tension.

Modifié par RaduM, 25 juillet 2013 - 09:00 .

[Captain Crash]

Mr.House wrote...

bleetman wrote...



What the hell is that.

Poor mans X-Man.

I still don't get this. This metal block is impractical for about 100 reasons compared to an omni-blade.  Guess this guy wants to be "old School".

Imagine how cool that would be if it was a duel omni-blade conversion though. Plus it would be so much more in keeping with Mass Effect.  As said, as it is, it just looks like rip from another comic.


I know many don't but I do like the idea of the comics being vessels to further the Mass Effect universe and lore. 

Modifié par Captain Crash, 25 juillet 2013 - 09:20 .

[P. Domi]

Don't want to go off topic here, but the Alliance has no jurisdiction in the Terminus systems. That's the main reason the Collectors pick these human colonies, they're the most vulnerable ones. Only some settlements and colonies like Horizon accept Alliance help (military equipment in exchange for something we are never told about), grudgingly. We can't blame the Alliance for not deploying fleets in the Terminus systems, according to Mass Effect codex and canon (besides their casualties in the Battle for the Citadel), as established in ME 1, it'd have been a "casus belli" if any faction had taken it as a military incursion.

Modifié par pablodomi, 25 juillet 2013 - 09:30 .

[xNYROx]

I pre-ordered the first 3.....although I did laugh at the coverfor #1.

[Armass81]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

And all the hate solely focused on Mac Walters and Casey Hudson is due to lies. The statement by Patrick Weekes that Mac and Casey shut all the other writers out of the ending was some troll who hacked his account on Penny Arcade looking to stir up drama. And anybody who would think about it without a mind of of hate would realize after eight years of working on Mass Effect with the entire team, they wouldn't do something so asinine as to hog the ending all to themselves. And even the other writers besides Weekes have stated that they all approved of the ending before it shipped out, and that the controversy has been a "learning experience".

Since everybody can lie, how would you know this is true? Because they told you so and you trust them now? After all their other lies and misleads. Theres a conflict of intrests in here, if Bioware tells you it was a troll, how can you tell theyre simply not lying to cover for Weekes and their own failures, which would be likely?

Modifié par Armass81, 25 juillet 2013 - 01:25 .

[ElitePinecone]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that nobody liked issue 1 of Foundation.

You guys wouldn't like it no matter how well done it is. You just want another reason to hate and complain, not actual satisfaction.

That is absurd, and don't claim to know what my motivations are for liking or disliking things.

I thought Foundation was interesting, mostly. It has good potential and an interesting character to develop.

But the subplot about a mining colony that used slave labour to supply the Alliance's biggest military project is absolutely ridiculous, and I have no qualms about pointing that out. 

Does it mean the comic was terrible? No. But I'd sure appreciate it if the writing team favoured plot consistency rather than forced grittiness.

[B.Shep]

While I agree there were better plots in previous comics I also believe is pretty much true what The Grey Nayr said, several people here just love to complain and whine no matter the reason.

[Fixers0]

All but mediocre, as expected.

[o Ventus]

B.Shep wrote...

While I agree there were better plots in previous comics I also believe is pretty much true what The Grey Nayr said, several people here just love to complain and whine no matter the reason.

Contrary to popular belief, these people are not very prevalent.

[rashie]

This issue only served to confuse me reading the summary on the mass effect wiki, i guess it will sort itself out with the following ones but it just leaves me wondering, why is this happening? Only time will tell i guess.

Modifié par rashie, 25 juillet 2013 - 05:41 .

[Seboist]

Fixers0 wrote...

All but mediocre, as expected.

Generous description there. I liked how the only real purpose "Evolution" served was to introduce the basis for the EDI sex robot.

[Fixers0]

Seboist wrote...
Generous description there. I liked how the only real purpose "Evolution" served was to introduce the basis for the EDI sex robot.

Please, remind me, which series whas that exactly? They're all so similar.

Modifié par Fixers0, 25 juillet 2013 - 06:08 .