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[N7recruit]

This isn't to start a flame war or bash certain characters you don't like, it's just to see who you guys think had no purpous or point to being in the games & how their removal would have better aided in the development for the rest of the cast. I'll go first
Thane
Jack
Kasumi
Zaieed
Grunt
Samara
Jacob
James

Remember, no bashing please:lol:

Edit: I'd Also remove Steve and Samantha but they dont really countB)

Modifié par N7recruit, 25 juillet 2013 - 11:47 .

[N7PT]

Jacob, Kasumi, Zaeed, Samara and Jack.

[N7recruit]

N7PT wrote...

Jacob, Kasumi, Zaeed, Samara and Jack.

 

Not getting rid of Grunt? Just curious

[crimzontearz]

thane, grunt, zaeed, kasumi, EDI, Samara, Miranda, Jacob

[dreamgazer]

Jacob, Thane, Kasumi, Samara, and James.

EDI, sort of. I dig her taking on a mobile platform and wouldn't mind her accompanying for a mission as a temp, but not as a full squadmate.

[Lady Sif]

James, Kasumi, Zaeed, Samara, Jacob, and EDI

Modifié par Rachel73, 25 juillet 2013 - 11:35 .

[ShepnTali]

I... I can't do it. They're all my children.

[N7recruit]

ShepnTali wrote...

I... I can't do it. They're all my children.

But you must! The thread title demands it:wizard:

[AlexMBrennan]

Morinth: Giving the player the option to recruit her is just stupid
Jacob: His role is too similar to Miranda's, and it's obvious that the writers ran out of things for him to do
Grunt: Sorta funny, but ultimately pointless
Zaeed: Sorta funny, but ultimately pointless
Samara: her arc raises way more questions than it answers, and I don't think the writers thought things through at all
Kasumi: Funny, but ultimately pointless. Also, why do we need a thief?
Vega: Serves mostly as the Watson... But how about you start by playing ME1? Do you normally skip the first half of the books you read?
EDI: would have been far more interesting if it had remained the ship's intelligence without a very obviously female body. Also, it would have been less embarrassing since the artists apparently have to make all female models anatomically correct.

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 25 juillet 2013 - 11:49 .

[Cainhurst Crow]

Kaidan, Jacob, Samara, Zaeed, Kasumi, Mornith.

[ShepnTali]

Ok, if pressed...


Jacob, James, Zaeed, EDI, Kaidan.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 0.) Morinth. Just a fringe-squadmate to begin with. She had potential to be really intruiging, but writers didn't want players to like her in favor of Samara, so she just became a joke. Terrible waste, IMO, but whatever. It is what it is now.

1.) Liara. One of few ME1 plot contrivances. Only real need is to say, "Ilos!" Thanks, but I'll just rewrite the story so I don't have to go through [a virginal asari with no believable military background for my fireteam] to get that information. I'm not a Shiala fanboy, but she'd make a ton more sense in Liara's place. Hell, maybe they can trade backstories!

2.) Samara. I flat-out ignore her recruitment when I replay ME2 (all one times). I like her, the person, which is more than I can say for Liara. However, her general character is stupid. Conceptually, Morinth is way more interesting. Then there's the fact that her skills, as a squadmate, are totally redundant next to the rest of the team.

3.) Thane. You can eliminate the drell species from the game and basically not lose a beat. The only other one besides him and his son is Feron, who could easily be any other humanoid species. Thane's character is also a bit redundant with Samara's as a general warrior-monk kind of guy, and is slightly redundant as a squadmate.

4.) Grunt. Though he won a lot of respect from me for his ME3 heroics, he was pointless in the game where he was more than just a cameo. He had the least to ever say and was just the stereotypical krogan after passing his 'rite.

5.) Jacob. Jacob did a decent job moving the player forward through the prologue, so his character was not completely pointless like Grunt was. After it, though, he may as well have just died on Freedom's Progress.


And though it pains me to say it, Jack would probably be next on my chopping-block. She's my favorite character of the trilogy and LI of choice, but if I'm a writer with the best interests of the story in mind, I have to acknowledge she's not much use. Her story has already been done before through Kaidan, just in a less extreme way, and it was more relevant at that time to elaborate on the backstory of human-biotics. Jack is only relevant in showing another face of Cerberus, but Cerberus really should never have been made relevant to begin with.

EDI is also in play here. I actually think she's a fine squadmate: fairly relevant, useful, available (can't die in ME2). However, her squad status is expendable; she can be relegated to the ship's AI and used the same for the plot.

Modifié par HYR 2.0, 25 juillet 2013 - 11:59 .

[FredLOMD]

Jack: I just didn't like her.
Jacob: Never really contributed much to the story.
James: Wasn't a big fan and is the only one that only exists in ME3.
EDI: not as a character, just as a squad mate. And should probably have stayed body-less.
The last one's difficult but I'm going with Kasumi

Modifié par FredLOMD, 26 juillet 2013 - 12:03 .

[Jorji Costava]

I'd probably drop Jacob first and replace him with James. I can see the role Jacob was intended to fulfill; Shepard was in an unfamiliar, dangerous place with Cerberus and Jacob was supposed to be a character who could be a sounding board for Shepard's doubts, given that Jacob himself wasn't super-enthusiastic about Cerberus. But he was just too vanilla and underwritten (daddy issues again?). I see no reason why James couldn't have done the same thing. Plus, his blue-collar mentality could have provided an interesting contrast with the more uppity Miranda.

I'd also drop Grunt for sure. The character has got literally no backstory at all. The whole "images from the tank" business is impossible to really relate to, since it's all told and never shown, and there are not many real world analogues for "being taught everything at birth through weird images" which we can use as a point of reference. This character is pretty expendable.

Jack, Thane and Samara brought some interesting things to the table, but didn't really need to be there. Jack is supposed to bring us the anti-Cerberus perspective, but I think this role could have been played by the VS. Thane and Samara are less connected to the essential plot and lore than other candidates for elimination, so I'm going with them as well. The whole "deep and spiritual" archetype is not my favorite either (just a personal preference, really), so I suppose I'm being a bit self-serving with those picks, but there you go.

Zaeed and Kasumi were also relatively inessential; if at least five characters have to go, then they have to be high on the list simply because the plot could have proceeded pretty much the same way without them.

Lastly, EDI didn't need to be a squadmate. She's included as a squadmate because (a) the writers want to do some Pinocchio stuff, and ( EDI couldn't die in ME2, so giving her a body was a way to increase the squadmate count in ME3 while retaining a connection to the previous game. But I think the suicide mission was a big mistake in many ways, so ultimately I would have preferred EDI to remain as the voice of the Normandy.

[ShepnTali]

ShepnTali wrote...

Ok, if pressed...


Jacob, James, Zaeed, EDI, Kaidan.

Wait... I'll swap Jenkins for Kaidan back. I think that's legal.

[crimzontearz]

oh and ash and kaidan

[Anubis722]

Jacob
EDI
Thane
Morinth
Legion

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

Grunt
Miranda
Samara
Kasumi
Legion
EDI
Liara
Jack
Thane
Jacob

[wolfhowwl]

Keep Mordin, Tali, and Legion.

We learn what we need to for the Genophage and Geth/Quarian chapters in ME3.

Nothing else really came of the ME2 team.

[Mike 9987]

Jacob, definitely jacob.

Then zaheed

Then...oh god this is hard

samara...

James

Kaiden. That way there is no Virmire choice



I feel dirty


edit: AAAH I need 1 more damn it. 


Oh! cut jankins. He WAS a squadmate for 5 seconds! 

Modifié par Mike 9987, 26 juillet 2013 - 01:05 .

[teh DRUMPf!!]

StreetMagic wrote...


Dude, just stick with Jack. What are you thinking? Kaidan's story sucks. Who gives a **** if it was done first. A lot about ME1 was a first attempt at things and didn't come off well. The game has it's charm, but it ain't all that.

Kaidan is fine. 

Only issue with him is that he's a bit aloof to Male!Shep in ME1. Other than that, very solid all-around character.

I think he just gets overlooked for lacking any real "wow"-factor to him, but it's nice to have a few solid low-key guys next to the marquee characters. 'Keeps things grounded and relatively relatable. Also appeals to broader tastes in general.

[Mcfly616]

Kaidan
Jacob
Thane
Miranda
James

[jtav]

Zaeed, Kasumi, Thane, Samara, Grunt.