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[Bleachrude]

o Ventus wrote...

Bleachrude wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Bleachrude wrote...

Reorte raises a good point.

There is no "essential" squad-mate since none of your squadmates HAVE to be there I think the only plot critical mission with a team-mate throughout the entire trilogy is ironically EDI on Chronos station....

Liara and Miranda both have a part in bringing Shepard back to life. Arguably moreso Miranda than Liara. Mordin develops the anti-Seeker countermeasure that allows Shepard and co. to effectively engage the Collectors in ground combat. 

That's plot critical, not mission specific critical.

Mordin is essential to the plot but other than his loyalty mission, there's no mission that you have to take him with you. As soon as you get a third companion in the ME series, other than loyalty missions, the only time you're forced to take someone is Liara in two DLCs (From the Ashes and Shadowbroker - which could be considered her loyalty mission), the Thessia mission, Tali if she's alive for Rannoch and EDI in Chronos station.

By this logic, there isn't a single squadmate who is at all "relevant" except for EDI, and even EDI is only "relevant" for about 7 seconds. Liara and Tali don't do anything particularly special on their respective arcs, nor do they do anything that demands their specific talents.

I actually agree with you...the problem is that the topic is more of a popularity contest...

That said, I'd argue that Jacob is useless based on POWER set (the only criteria one can evaluate characters as a squadmate fairly on). Pull, incidenary ammo and Barrier are not exactly a winning combiantion set of powers in Me2. Combine this with the fact that he got saddled with shotguns (in Me2, it seemed like shotguns had spitting distance) and on insanity, it was impossible for Jacob to actually do anything.....

Anytime I hit Omega, I pick up Zaeed even before I do either the Doctor/Archangel missions....

[QuarianAnalyst]

Jacob, Grunt, Morinth (But not Samara), JAMES, Kaidan???

[DecCylonus]

Jack: Terribly written, walking cliche. Bad girl, but only bad because somebody hurt her as a child. She is built up as this huge badass, but if you put her in the squad she spends more time bleeding out than killing enemies. Her evolution in ME3 is unbelieveable. Nobody in their right mind would put somebody who claims to have killed that many people, and claimed to enjoy it, in charge of children.

James: He was a good character, and I liked him. I would cut him because he was a last minute addition. Quite simply, I would have saved the room in the ME3 squad for a more developed character from ME1 or ME2.

Jacob: He had the promise of being interesting, but Bioware destroyed his story arc in ME3. His skills in ME2 weren't that useful either.

Samara: An interesting bit of Asari culture, but not necessary as a character.

Aria: An interesting character for ME2, but totally unnecessary for ME3.

[TheKimora01]

Kaiden, Jacob, Morinth, Vega & Jenkins :-)

[Mello]

Jacob,Jacob,Jacob,Jacob, Jacob∞

[Element Engine]

Kaidan
Jacob
Samara/Morinth
Kasumi
EDI

[N7recruit]

iPoohCupCakes wrote...

Jacob,Jacob,Jacob,Jacob, Jacob∞

Ok, so I'm guessing you don't like Jacob:D
I don't think he has enough of a character to be removed by infinity:wizard: but if you deam it possible

[MEuniverse]

Jenkins

[CptData]

Technically, only Morinth. I don't dislike her or something, she's simply no fully developed character with any impact. All you get is a different biotic power, besides that, Morinth acts as Samara in most places and most squadmates don't recognize her.

Every other character got some kind of character development and story impact justifying his/her presence, therefore, and to prevent any fights, no one except Morinth.

[Gold Dragon]

Of course not (Morinth).  She has one purpose only.  Giving the bonus power: Dominate to Shepard.  Best done by simply saving before the confrontation, sparing Morinth, checking the terminal, then reloading.

Samara is infinitely better than her daughter (ME 2).


I like Falere.

[Rodulv]

Only James Vega and Morinth(I never take her though, not even on Renegade playthroughs), I like everyone else to much.... even Jacob.

Modifié par Rodulv, 30 juillet 2013 - 01:30 .

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

Jacob Grunt Samara Zaeed Kasumi


Jacob, Grunt, and Samara were just replacing the Virmire Survivor, Wrex, and Liara, and were a little lame.  Zaeed and Kasumi were extras that never had a place.  In my most recent run i lost all 5 of these characters on the collector base and their removal from me3 kind of makes those scenes a little stronger  (though i also think geth vi is a more interesting me3 storyline than legion is)

[Ironhandjustice]

Jenkings - No comments
Dr."Idontevenknowhername" from The Arrival
Turian girl "IdontevenknowhernameaswellgimmemyMe2squadback" from omega
Liara - "Ah yes, usefull, nice and cool person. I've dimissedthatclaim. Give me Kaiden back, I want to sacrifice HER!"
Jacob - Simply useless. As Bromance, is far better Garrus...

Next would be James - He replaced my krogans! "Loco".
Next, Morrinth, wasted potential

[Fixers0]

Jacob
Jack
Thane
Grunt
Kasumi
James

Some characters could have certain elements of themselfs be absorbed into other characters.

[mass perfection]

Ashley,Liara,Kaidan,Jacob,Miranda.

[Swass Effect]

I will list mine based on how often I used said character, and a little bit based on the effect they had or didn't have in the story.

1. Jacob. Based on his story and stuff he'd be the companion equivalent of sole survivor who doesn't really do anything spectacular and is outclassed by generally everyone as a squadmate.

2. James. Honestly isn't he just a glorified doorman that some how got caught up in reaper activity. I was really hoping he'd catch that ride back to Earth from the Citadel.

3.Ashley. I feel her character was kind of dull and a little whiny. It annoyed the hell out of me how she bust my nuts about Cerberus all the time. And I don't see how she, or Kaiden for that matter, would get spectre status considering she is just another soldier with a sub par background excluding her work with Shepard and got punched into what appeared to be a coma.

4. Javik. This is not a bash on what he contributed because the backstory to the Protheans was easily worth the price of the DLC. But I wanted a Salarian companion (Mordin doesn't count as I will explain) so bad in the third game and I don't really know where he outclasses any one as a team mate. Liara is a better biotic with the quicker cool downs and James and Garrus are better infantry based on weapon damage bonuses. And he clashes with my renegade Shepard. I feel like he is stealing my thunder 

5. Mordin. Once again because I wanted Kirrahe as my Salarian team mate. But also because his job could've been left to a NPC. Mordin could still be in the game just not as a team mate. Why would we throw our one scientist in the field? May as well throw Engineer Adams in there. He could've been and should've been a Dr. Chawkwas type character. And we should've gotten a more combat suited Salarian member in his place. Honestly I am just a Kirrahe fanboy and really wish he was a team mate.

I never recruited Morinth so as far as I am concerned she is not a team mate at all. And I didn't factor in temporary companions such as Aria, Nyreen and such.

Modifié par Swass Effect, 30 juillet 2013 - 12:33 .

[DarthLaxian]

got something to add (i have posted my list already and i stand by it, with a minor change):

you have EDI in a body, which in Theory is a good idea, but not that body...an YMIR-MECH (with some tech upgrades etc.) now that would have been something (and it would be more logical...hell even a LOKI-MECH would have been fine - slap on some kinetic-barriers and armor (like that Eclipse-Commando/Captain-Tech-Armor) and you have one fine body for the AI - and one that is acceptable IMHO)

greetings LAX
ps: Falere? - Really?...I thought she was whiny and got on my nerves...

[KaiserShep]

It wouldn't really be more logical to have EDI inside of something like a LOKI mech. Those things are just a notch above the useless battle droids from Episode I.

[Aurora313]

Liara
Jacob
Thane
Morinth
Liara. Yes - I mentioned her twice. Particularly the fact that she descrated and plays god with Shepard's corpse. What gets on my nerves is Shepard can't call her out on it at all and is totally fine with it. What especially pisses me off is being shoehorned into her being my best friend while none of my renegade options from game one seem to have the desired effect. Frankly, on a meta level, its frustrating, on an in-verse level, Liara must have something deeply wrong with her if a pathological jerkass treats her like **** and she still trails after him anyway.

[KaiserShep]

Technically, it's Cerberus that "plays god", but that's neither here or there, because if it's not Liara that "desecrates" Shepard's corpse, it would be the Collectors. So take your pick as to which you would prefer: Shepard becoming part of the Collectors' collection of reaper building material, or rejoining the living to do something other than become part of the reaper building material.

I find the indignation over Liara's recovery of Shepard's body kind of funny, given the alternative.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 10 août 2013 - 03:26 .

[Barquiel]

Aurora313 wrote...

Liara
Jacob
Thane
Morinth
Liara. Yes - I mentioned her twice. Particularly the fact that she descrated and plays god with Shepard's corpse. What gets on my nerves is Shepard can't call her out on it at all and is totally fine with it. What especially pisses me off is being shoehorned into her being my best friend while none of my renegade options from game one seem to have the desired effect. Frankly, on a meta level, its frustrating, on an in-verse level, Liara must have something deeply wrong with her if a pathological jerkass treats her like **** and she still trails after him anyway.

Yes, she should clearly forget the fact that Shepard saved her life a few months ago (if someone saved my life I would definitely try to return the favor, given the chance...but that's just me). And who cares that the Shadow broker and the collectors are also looking for Shepard? Because that isn't suspicious at all...

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Barquiel wrote...

Aurora313 wrote...

Liara
Jacob
Thane
Morinth
Liara. Yes - I mentioned her twice. Particularly the fact that she descrated and plays god with Shepard's corpse. What gets on my nerves is Shepard can't call her out on it at all and is totally fine with it. What especially pisses me off is being shoehorned into her being my best friend while none of my renegade options from game one seem to have the desired effect. Frankly, on a meta level, its frustrating, on an in-verse level, Liara must have something deeply wrong with her if a pathological jerkass treats her like **** and she still trails after him anyway.

Yes, she should clearly forget the fact that Shepard saved her life a few months ago (if someone saved my life I would definitely try to return the favor, given the chance...but that's just me). And who cares that the Shadow broker and the collectors are also looking for Shepard? Because that isn't suspicious at all...

How about you not get upset because some of us think Liara is superfluous and unnecessary. I concur with Aurora. Not for the same reasons mind you, but overall, Liara didn't, in my opinion, have a role that warranted the amount of focus she got, and she certainly is superfluous to my Shepard, who thinks of her as that Asari that has a creepy crush on him and is obsessed with Protheans.

[Nole]

Samara
Jacob
Thane
Grunt
James

KaiserShep wrote...

I find the indignation over Liara's recovery of Shepard's body kind of funny, given the alternative.

Yeah, I laugh every time I read someone complaining about that.

[LiL Reapur]

Kaidan, Jacob, Kasumi, Thane, Zaeed, Samara, Mornith, and Miranda.