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[David7204]

I've yet to see any objections to the Lazarus project that have any merit at all. 

Frankly, people simoultaniously whining about Lazarus and Synthesis come off as somewhat hypocritical.

Modifié par David7204, 31 juillet 2013 - 12:54 .

[Iakus]

David7204 wrote...

I've yet to see any objections to the Lazarus project that have any merit at all.

Go looking through the ME2 threads.  I've participated in some pretty detailed reasoning about how it's just so much nonsense.  Comic book science at best.,

Frankly, people simoultaniously whining about Lazarus and Synthesis come off as somewhat hypocritical.

They're both blatant space magic. How is that hypocritical?  Especially when we were promised no space magic in stopping th ereapers?

[David7204]

'Go look at this other thing' is just about the laziest excuse for an argument that exists on the internet. No. If you want to argue it and try to back up your little accusations, do it yourself. 'Go look at these other people do speak for me' is not an argument.

It's hypocritical because much of the objection against Synthesis is based on the rejection of vitalism, and much of the objection against Lazarus is based upon the utter embracement of vitalism.

Modifié par David7204, 31 juillet 2013 - 01:02 .

[Steelcan]

Because falling through an atmosphere, after vacuum exposure, onto a world without oxygen, and at sub zero tempertures, is totally not going to leave behind less than a puddle.

[David7204]

Explain to me why not, why don't you.

[spirosz]

The falling argument again?.

BSN is dying.

[Steelcan]

David7204 wrote...

Explain to me why not, why don't you.

 The extreme tempertures of atmospheric re-entry cook spaceships, a human with a little bit of armor?  Should be vaporized.  Falling from such a height at Terminal velocity would make Shepard a puddle at best.  The lack of oxygen, and working lungs, would destroy Shepard's brain tissue.  

[David7204]

Tell me Steelcan, can you think of any differences between a spaceship entering atmosphere and Shepard's body?

[Steelcan]

David7204 wrote...

Tell me Steelcan, can you think of any differences between a spaceship entering atmosphere and Shepard's body?

One is specially designed to withstand such temperture extremes involved.  The other is wearing a little bit of armor that was already damaged.

And what happens to damaged spaceships when they encounter such environments?

[David7204]

Nope. That's not the difference.

[Steelcan]

David7204 wrote...

Nope. That's not the difference.

.  Yet that works perfectly.  A damaged suit that is meant to withstand gunfire and battlefield conditions is not going to be suitable for suxh extreme environments as falling through an atmosphere.

Why, what was the answer you were looking for?

[David7204]

Why don't you sit and think for a bit? There's a very, very obvious and very significant difference between a ships and meteorites entering atmosphere and Shepard's body entering atmosphere. You really don't have much business discussing this if you can't think of it on your own.

[DeinonSlayer]

Would you jump out of an airplane with a Kevlar vest instead of a parachute, David?

[Steelcan]

David7204 wrote...

Why don't you sit and think for a bit? There's a very, very obvious and very significant difference between a ships and meteorites entering atmosphere and Shepard's body entering atmosphere. You really don't have much business discussing this if you can't think of it on your own.

.  The fact that one can survive re-entry and the other cannot?  Namely the one with squishy things like a brain, stomach, kidneys etc...

[Iakus]

David7204 wrote...

'Go look at this other thing' is just about the laziest excuse for an argument that exists on the internet. No. If you want to argue it and try to back up your little accusations, do it yourself. 'Go look at these other people do speak for me' is not an argument.

We've spoken before about your insulting attitude, David.  Speak to me with civilty or don't speak at all.

As to the question:

Cerebral Hypoxia

It has never been established how the Lazarus Project managed to prevent Shepard from ending up with severe brain injury, let alone wake him up from a permanent vegetative state.  Th eIllusive Man just threw a bunch of money at the problem until it went away.  Th emost basic version of space magic.

Modifié par iakus, 31 juillet 2013 - 01:29 .

[dreamgazer]

Shepard's a hero, Steelcan.

[Iakus]

David7204 wrote...

Why don't you sit and think for a bit? There's a very, very obvious and very significant difference between a ships and meteorites entering atmosphere and Shepard's body entering atmosphere. You really don't have much business discussing this if you can't think of it on your own.

For one thing, SHepard's body is much squishier.  The odds of SHep's body coming to rest in one piece would be...


...astronomical 

[David7204]

It's a serious question, and really not that hard.

Nobody can think of the big difference between a ship or meteorite entering atmosphere and Shepard?

Your complaints are ridiculous, Iakus. Obviously, if BioWare or any science fiction creator could explain with precision how their technology functions, they would be sprinting to a patent office. As long as such technology is within reasonable belief, there's no problem. And it's absolutely within belief that a group with access to immense resources could restore function to Shepard's brain and body 170 years in the future.

Modifié par David7204, 31 juillet 2013 - 01:34 .

[BaladasDemnevanni]

Steelcan wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Why don't you sit and think for a bit? There's a very, very obvious and very significant difference between a ships and meteorites entering atmosphere and Shepard's body entering atmosphere. You really don't have much business discussing this if you can't think of it on your own.

.  The fact that one can survive re-entry and the other cannot?  Namely the one with squishy things like a brain, stomach, kidneys etc...

Nah, Shepard's got heart. That's how his body survived: the power of friendship (and love).

[Steelcan]

David7204 wrote...

It's a serious question, and really not that hard.

Nobody can think of the big difference between a ship or meteorite entering atmosphere and Shepard?

. I gave you two.

[AresKeith]

David7204 wrote...

It's a serious question, and really not that hard.

Nobody can think of the big difference between a ship or meteorite entering atmosphere and Shepard?

Except they are giving you the big difference but your refusing to accept it because it's not the one that YOU want

[BaladasDemnevanni]

David7204 wrote...

It's a serious question, and really not that hard.

Nobody can think of the big difference between a ship or meteorite entering atmosphere and Shepard?

No offense, but as in most threads, you're just making a continuous ass of yourself. Get to your point, because it's obvious no one knows what you're talking about.

[dreamgazer]

Grace us with your vast insight, David-san.

[David7204]

Yes. It is obvious nobody knows what I'm talking about, isn't it?

Tell me. What speeds exactly do you think meteorites generally enter atmosphere? What speeds do you think spaceships would likely enter atmosphere? What speeds do you think spaceships have entered atmosphere at?

Modifié par David7204, 31 juillet 2013 - 01:36 .