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[INFINITY650]

I hate to say it but you have just not seen a HA played correctly, He or she is so good its almost comical how badly you can top the boards, and if there is another adept in the group forget it. Take him on Plat, and still smoke everyone, even people I play with all the time. So I am going to have to disagree with you on that one. The Inf. would be my pick for weakest.

[capn233]

I started to read this last night, and I suspected that this was a parody thread.

[Alijah Green]

A fools tale, sorry your ability too play this game is mediocre at best

[Alijah Green]

Who the f gave this thread 5 stars

[MermaidsTear]

Human adept is def a scorewh**ing kit next to fury imo (not compared to grenade drell though) I don't even need to try hard with this kit and still score well on both gold and plat.

Human engi is OP too and the drone is very effective to distract primes and stun mooks and fun to use so I never skip it <33

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

Uh Cold wrote...

What does it matter if they are top tier or not, they are good enough for good players to generate results that are comparable to the "top tier kits."

This is the bottom line.

I for one am a huge fan, and know how to get the best out of them. If you can't, that's on you.

Modifié par b00g13man, 27 juillet 2013 - 07:14 .

[satchel]

b00g13man wrote...

Uh Cold wrote...

What does it matter if they are top tier or not, they are good enough for good players to generate results that are comparable to the "top tier kits."

This is the bottom line.

I for one am a huge fan, and know how to get the best out of them. If you can't, that's on you.

If you can't score high with the human engineer you suck and should kill yourself and RedJohn is an idiot.

[MaxShine]

аrеtаrd lightswitch wrote...
None of these kits are bad. Most of them are just fine, fully function on plat or for topping scoreboards or whatever. It's just that none of them are actually as great as all you hipsters try to pretend they are either. They're mostly just sort of okay kits that will get the job done if you practice with them enough.

LOL, admits that the kits are 100% ready for Platinum and platinum solos. But then says they are 'overrated' and calls all of BSN delusional hipsters... nice flame bait...

[lightswitch]

Well the truth is you can play plat with any kit in the game.

What really confuses me is the people claiming the human engineer is so awesome. What ar you using, a Falcon and triple overload? That's the only way I old see he'd outperform the FQE on platinum. Actually even then the FQE should still be superior.

[satchel]

You made that last post from under a bridge. I admire your wifi.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

skinsatchel wrote...

You made that last post from under a bridge. I admire your wifi.

Lol.

lightswitch wrote...

Well the truth is you can play plat with any kit in the game.

What really confuses me is the people claiming the human engineer is so awesome. What ar you using, a Falcon and triple overload? That's the only way I old see he'd outperform the FQE on platinum. Actually even then the FQE should still be superior.

In case you are being serious, you've got incinerate and overload. Alternate them. Shoot in between.

[QU67]

Oh no. Someone insulted the Vanilla Human Kits.

They can be used to good effect, but are outclassed by other kits (as you said). As starting characters should be.

But they're a good example of how a little knowledge and experience can turn some okay characters into ones that can be used on Platinum to great effect... Human Adept.

Modifié par QU67, 27 juillet 2013 - 09:13 .

[Tallgeese_VII]

lightswitch wrote...

Well the truth is you can play plat with any kit in the game.

What really confuses me is the people claiming the human engineer is so awesome. What ar you using, a Falcon and triple overload? That's the only way I old see he'd outperform the FQE on platinum. Actually even then the FQE should still be superior.

Don`t ever base this game on Platinum.
Platinum is the world of minority both in-game and out-game wise.

[capn233]

Platinum!

QFE is only better dependent on the team composition really and how they may or may not benefit from the Cryo Debuff.

HE is more for chain detonating area tech effects and following up with Incinerate on Armor.

[lightswitch]

b00g13man wrote...

skinsatchel wrote...

You made that last post from under a bridge. I admire your wifi.

Lol.

lightswitch wrote...

Well the truth is you can play plat with any kit in the game.

What really confuses me is the people claiming the human engineer is so awesome. What ar you using, a Falcon and triple overload? That's the only way I old see he'd outperform the FQE on platinum. Actually even then the FQE should still be superior.

In case you are being serious, you've got incinerate and overload. Alternate them. Shoot in between.

The FQE will do more damage to armor by cryo blasting and then spamming incinerate repeatedly.

[Reizo Ryuu]

Amazing thread.

HEng is an immaculate beast.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

lightswitch wrote...

b00g13man wrote...

skinsatchel wrote...

You made that last post from under a bridge. I admire your wifi.

Lol.

lightswitch wrote...

Well the truth is you can play plat with any kit in the game.

What really confuses me is the people claiming the human engineer is so awesome. What ar you using, a Falcon and triple overload? That's the only way I old see he'd outperform the FQE on platinum. Actually even then the FQE should still be superior.

In case you are being serious, you've got incinerate and overload. Alternate them. Shoot in between.

The FQE will do more damage to armor by cryo blasting and then spamming incinerate repeatedly.

Are you factoring in 6*6 fire explosions and tech bursts witn AOE damage to other targets?

Even if that was the case, let's just scrap all the other kits and leave the GI. Will that make you happy?

[MaxShine]

b00g13man wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

b00g13man wrote...

skinsatchel wrote...

You made that last post from under a bridge. I admire your wifi.

Lol.

lightswitch wrote...

Well the truth is you can play plat with any kit in the game.

What really confuses me is the people claiming the human engineer is so awesome. What ar you using, a Falcon and triple overload? That's the only way I old see he'd outperform the FQE on platinum. Actually even then the FQE should still be superior.

In case you are being serious, you've got incinerate and overload. Alternate them. Shoot in between.

The FQE will do more damage to armor by cryo blasting and then spamming incinerate repeatedly.

Are you factoring in 6*6 fire explosions and tech bursts witn AOE damage to other targets?

Even if that was the case, let's just scrap all the other kits and leave the GI. Will that make you happy?

HE needs three cycles incinerate+overload+FE and kills a plat Brute instantly.  FQE needs four cycles and needs to wait for dot to kill him(yes, with frozen vulnerability).

HE needs two cycles of incinerate+overload+FE to instantly kill a plat Ravager, again FQE needs three and needs to wait for dot...

[Tallgeese_VII]

Apparently this game is all about grinding down the armor...

[Jovian09]

lightswitch wrote...

Well the truth is you can play plat with any kit in the game.

What really confuses me is the people claiming the human engineer is so awesome. What ar you using, a Falcon and triple overload? That's the only way I old see he'd outperform the FQE on platinum. Actually even then the FQE should still be superior.

There it is, the admission of trolling

I'm not sure they're comparable... Personally I play them in completely different ways; humengineer is a combo machine (Overload + Executioner headshot = ****face) and female quengineer is a tactical debuffer. IMHO human engi is one of the best traditional engineers.

And as others have said, Hsol has adrenaline rush uniquely, Inf has TC with good support powers; Hsent is an AA with TECH ARMOUR; Adept can be played in half a dozen completely unique ways and the novaguard is a novaguard.

Come to think of it, isn't this thread the opposite of a "Vanilla humans are awesome" thread from a few days ago?

Modifié par Jovian09, 27 juillet 2013 - 10:38 .

[lightswitch]

b00g13man wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

b00g13man wrote...

skinsatchel wrote...

You made that last post from under a bridge. I admire your wifi.

Lol.

lightswitch wrote...

Well the truth is you can play plat with any kit in the game.

What really confuses me is the people claiming the human engineer is so awesome. What ar you using, a Falcon and triple overload? That's the only way I old see he'd outperform the FQE on platinum. Actually even then the FQE should still be superior.

In case you are being serious, you've got incinerate and overload. Alternate them. Shoot in between.

The FQE will do more damage to armor by cryo blasting and then spamming incinerate repeatedly.

Are you factoring in 6*6 fire explosions and tech bursts witn AOE damage to other targets?

Even if that was the case, let's just scrap all the other kits and leave the GI. Will that make you happy?

No, I'd like to keep the TSol, Destroyer, Fury, Drell Adept, MQE, GE, most of the infiltrators, the BatSol, the QMS, the TSent and the Slasher and the Slayer, the Kroguard and probably the Cabal, the GT, and just in general any of the other kits I couldn't think of off the top of my head that outclass all the vanilla humans.

(Actually I'm not sure why you think I want any kits thrown out at all)

[lightswitch]

MaxShine wrote...

HE needs three cycles incinerate+overload+FE and kills a plat Brute instantly.  FQE needs four cycles and needs to wait for dot to kill him(yes, with frozen vulnerability).

HE needs two cycles of incinerate+overload+FE to instantly kill a plat Ravager, again FQE needs three and needs to wait for dot...

Yeah. If you're only spamming powers and not shooting at all.

But the FQE is also debuffing her weapon damage. Once you add in the shooting, her TTKs are shorter.

[MaxShine]

lightswitch wrote...

MaxShine wrote...

HE needs three cycles incinerate+overload+FE and kills a plat Brute instantly.  FQE needs four cycles and needs to wait for dot to kill him(yes, with frozen vulnerability).

HE needs two cycles of incinerate+overload+FE to instantly kill a plat Ravager, again FQE needs three and needs to wait for dot...

Yeah. If you're only spamming powers and not shooting at all.

But the FQE is also debuffing her weapon damage. Once you add in the shooting, her TTKs are shorter.

Not neccessarily, you have to think up a build/loadout for the FQE, calculate the possible damage and compare it to the damage of the HE with the same loadout. Only then can a final statement be made.

Modifié par MaxShine, 28 juillet 2013 - 12:32 .

[palmof40sorrows]

TchockTckocky wrote...

Dude just because you cant use these kits it doesn't mean their bad.

It doesn't even mean they're bad either.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

MaxShine wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

MaxShine wrote...

HE needs three cycles incinerate+overload+FE and kills a plat Brute instantly.  FQE needs four cycles and needs to wait for dot to kill him(yes, with frozen vulnerability).

HE needs two cycles of incinerate+overload+FE to instantly kill a plat Ravager, again FQE needs three and needs to wait for dot...

Yeah. If you're only spamming powers and not shooting at all.

But the FQE is also debuffing her weapon damage. Once you add in the shooting, her TTKs are shorter.

Not neccessarily, you have to think up a build/loadout for the FQE, calculate the possible damage and compare it to the damage of the HE with the same loadout. Only then can a final statement be made.

He's completely clueless. I wouldn't waste any more time on him if I were you.