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[Mykel54]

Im surprised nobody said Leliana, i think she has good chances of coming back

[AresKeith]

Mykel54 wrote...

Im surprised nobody said Leliana, i think she has good chances of coming back

It's pretty obvious that she's gonna be in the game, but I highly doubt she's gonna be a companion

[Angrywolves]

Leliana will be an npc.
So will Morrigan.
Some people want all new companions, which would some from the books and comics.
Some want returning companions from the previous games.
I guess it ultimately doesn't matter.
Bioware will have whomever they want in the game.
So I've changed my mind.
I feel very indifferent right now.
shrugs.

[reeferdemon]

I would love having Morrigan as a companion and Leliana to a lesser extent, but it's unlikely. They're probably just going to be NPCs.

Then again, I want new companions too... so I guess I'd be happy either way. I'm just glad I'll get to see Morrigan again........... >.>

[corkey sweet]

pretty sure Varic will be a companion. at the very least an important npc

[Cigne]

corkey sweet wrote...

pretty sure Varic will be a companion. at the very least an important npc

Companion or npc, I expect him to regale the Inquisitor with tales of the elf or mage or dwarf or human noble Hero of Fereldan's exploits, as well as Hawke's.

And if he gets some details wrong, well, Varric knows sacrifices to accuracy have to be made, in the interest of a good story.

[AresKeith]

 Here's the picture that came with the leak

[Danny Boy 7]

azarhal wrote...

Ziggeh wrote...

I love stuff like this.

What you've got to do is work out what perspectives the story is likely to need and extrapolate.

For example - I think there's a lot of overlap between Cassandra and Cullen. They're both Chantry people and while Cullen is somewhat more sympathetic towards mages, they're both fundementally pro templar. I can't see them both being companions unless one or the other has changed considerably due to the events of DA2. (I'd laugh for a week if Cullen has become inhabited by Justice and become an unsufferable arse.)

Cullen might act more sympathetics, but his ideas aren't. He think mages aren't people and that the Tranquil Solution had merit.  Gregoir even sent him to Kirkwall because he was too radical for the Ferelden circle.

Cassandra is the agressive jerk that believe in the Chantry rules (the rules says protect the mages, not persecute them). She even said that the Circle mages should have more power in DotS. She intimidate everyone, not just mages.

And I expect Cullen to be the next Justice...

Your post isn't entirely wrong, but it's not entirely right either. Cullen is often misquoted when he makes that comment because what he actually says is that mages aren't "like" us because they can burn down a city in a "fit of pique" and that we can't treat them the same way as we do everyone else. Now I don't really agree with that statement,  but it isn't without merit.  Not to mention he'd just been traumatized/tortured by abominations and demons less than a year before.  I don't really believe he is suddenly pro-mage or anything, but he definitely is less DIE MAGE STAB STAB! than most others. Somewhere between say...Keran and Meredith. I think no matter how much I'd like him to he's never going to be against the Circle. As for why he was transferred by Gregoir it actually says that he was a bit harsher than he had been and Gregoir didn't think it was a good idea to keep him around the mages who had traumatized him. Not an uncommon thing in prisons.

Cassandra I think is much less biased than Cullen because she has personal friends who are mages as well as the fact that she is less of a prison guard/federal marshal like the templars and more like a Internal Affairs investigator who ensures than all criminals are caught regardless of who pays them. They have two similar yet vastly different jobs/experiences and the differences seem to make all the difference. 

[LadyRaena13]

I'm going to throw this in here...I don't think Cassandra will be a companion. I bet she'll be a bad guy, "Not all of us desire war Varric." then what do we see in the trailer??? Her leading a charge to destroy a fort. Yep totally a bad guy.

[KENNY4753]

Part of me thinks we wont have a set companion list for the game but have around 3-4 core companions with another 3-5 for certain plot arcs of the game.

So for the core companions for example...Cassandra, 2 noobs, and Cullen fans will crucify me if I dont say Cullen, maybe 1 other.

for certain plot arcs...

-arc surrounding Flemeth...Morrigan, another Flemeth daughter, 1 or 2 Noobs
-arc surrounding Warden/Hawke...Leliana, Varric, Warden LI (if not Lel), Hawke LI, Beth/Carf
-arc surrounding the Wardens...Stroud, Nathaniel, Awakened Darkspawn, Noob/other, Beth/Carv
-arc surrounding Elven Uprising...Velanna, Merrill, 1 or 2 Noobs/other
-arc surrounding Orlais vs Ferelden...Alistair/Loghain, Vet Chevalier, Aveline
-arc surrounding Qunari...Sten (now Arishok), Iron Bull, Tallis, other
-arc surrounding Mage/Templar...Anders/Justice, Beth/Carv, Asunder character, Leliana, noob/other
(insert replacement characters when needed)

So yeah...something like that anyway. ME3 should have done something similar.

[Rawgrim]

I doubt Cole will be in it. If a player killed Wynne in DA:O, the events in Asunder will have played out very very differently. Alot of his recent history would have to be re-written accordingly, in order to make sense.

[Fredward]

Rawgrim wrote...

I doubt Cole will be in it. If a player killed Wynne in DA:O, the events in Asunder will have played out very very differently. Alot of his recent history would have to be re-written accordingly, in order to make sense.

Why? Its been a while but I don't remember Wynne playing anything but a tangenital role in Cole's story.

[Han Shot First]

AresKeith wrote...

 Here's the picture that came with the leak

From what I understand, some of those aren't companions however. The second picture from the left on both the top and the bottom are pictures of the male and female versions of the Inquisitor. And the woman to the right of the male Inquisitor I believe was just identified as 'human female.' Shame in a way, since I think she looks interesting.

[Han Shot First]

LadyRaena13 wrote...

I'm going to throw this in here...I don't think Cassandra will be a companion. I bet she'll be a bad guy, "Not all of us desire war Varric." then what do we see in the trailer??? Her leading a charge to destroy a fort. Yep totally a bad guy.

I think at this point Cassandra is pretty much a lock for a companion. If she were intended to be the villain I'm not so sure she would have been portrayed as the central character and hero in her own cartoon. Also the trailer didn't seem to suggest to me that she'd be the villain. We only get a brief glimpse of her, and there is nothing menacing about her. If she were the villain, its likely they would have chosen a shot of her glaring or something similar.

[Milan92]

LadyRaena13 wrote...

I'm going to throw this in here...I don't think Cassandra will be a companion. I bet she'll be a bad guy, "Not all of us desire war Varric." then what do we see in the trailer??? Her leading a charge to destroy a fort. Yep totally a bad guy.

Because judging a character from 1 trailer where she appears for only a few seconds without knowing her reasons is such a good idea.

[Milan92]

AresKeith wrote...

 Here's the picture that came with the leak

Looks very legit if you ask me. Six companions is more then enough.

Hope they won't change anything in this.

[Han Shot First]

Milan92 wrote...

LadyRaena13 wrote...

I'm going to throw this in here...I don't think Cassandra will be a companion. I bet she'll be a bad guy, "Not all of us desire war Varric." then what do we see in the trailer??? Her leading a charge to destroy a fort. Yep totally a bad guy.

Because judging a character from 1 trailer where she appears for only a few seconds without knowing her reasons is such a good idea.

A good point.

After all we don't know who, or what Cassandra was attacking. Just prior to that you see Grey Wardens under siege, but being that it was a trailer, you don't know if you are seeing events in order or of the shots of the Grey Wardens and Cassandra were a mash-up of two unrelated scenes. You also don't know why she was attacking, whatever it was that she was attacking.

[Wulfram]

Milan92 wrote...

Looks very legit if you ask me. Six companions is more then enough.

Hope they won't change anything in this.

4 warriors, 1 archer and 1 painter doesn't seem like a very balanced set of companions.

[Ziggeh]

Milan92 wrote...
Looks very legit if you ask me. Six companions is more then enough.

I dunno. I think you need some overlap so you can specialise without being tied to specific members. Always bringing Anders because he's the healer isn't the kind of discrete decision I'm looking for. I'd aim for two options in each role. You could potentially do that with 6, mind.

[Ziggeh]

Wulfram wrote...

4 warriors, 1 archer and 1 painter doesn't seem like a very balanced set of companions.

I figure the Templar is a dual wielding rogue, which would make it 3, 3, 2, which is roughly what DA2 ran with.

I actually kind of hope that is a painter. 

[Tootles FTW]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

I doubt Cole will be in it. If a player killed Wynne in DA:O, the events in Asunder will have played out very very differently. Alot of his recent history would have to be re-written accordingly, in order to make sense.

Why? Its been a while but I don't remember Wynne playing anything but a tangenital role in Cole's story.

Wynne had little to nothing to do with Cole.  I'm struggling to think of one instance that would have deviated for Cole if Wynne were absent...  Cole was motivated into action by Rhys - it was Rhys who served as his motivation for leaving the Spire, Rhys who he protected, and it was Lambert who (when fighting Rhys) used the litany against him.

Anders, Oghren, and Leliana could be straight-up murdered in-game, yet they appeared in sequels regardless.  I think the possible out-of-canon fate of a book character dependent upon the possible in-canon fate of another character isn't anything to fuss about.

...can you tell that I really, really want Cole in DAI?  Cuz' I do. 

[Milan92]

Wulfram wrote...

Milan92 wrote...

Looks very legit if you ask me. Six companions is more then enough.

Hope they won't change anything in this.

4 warriors, 1 archer and 1 painter doesn't seem like a very balanced set of companions.

I see a mage. 2 rogue's or the painter is a mage too and 3 warriors.

I don't see the problem in that since in DA 2 we had 3 rogue's.

[Mykel54]

AresKeith wrote...

Mykel54 wrote...

Im surprised nobody said Leliana, i think she has good chances of coming back

It's pretty obvious that she's gonna be in the game, but I highly doubt she's gonna be a companion

Why not? She is orlesianin a game set up in Orlais, she is with the seekers and we know cassandra is one, she appears in Asunder, and more importanly: Bioware made sure she would be alive. do you think it makes sense to retcon the death of a minor npc? i say it makes more sense if they had important plans for her, like being a companion. It isnt worth the money to create a substitute companion, so having her live makes it possible for everyone to have her. Finally consider that DA3 is trying to attract DAO fans by continuing leftover plot points and bringing back known faces, and Leliana would fit right in along with morrigan in the game.

[Rawgrim]

Milan92 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

 Here's the picture that came with the leak

Looks very legit if you ask me. Six companions is more then enough.

Hope they won't change anything in this.

Looks like they are going with the DA2 look for the elves. 5 companions it is then.

[Rawgrim]

Mykel54 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Mykel54 wrote...

Im surprised nobody said Leliana, i think she has good chances of coming back

It's pretty obvious that she's gonna be in the game, but I highly doubt she's gonna be a companion

Why not? She is orlesianin a game set up in Orlais, she is with the seekers and we know cassandra is one, she appears in Asunder, and more importanly: Bioware made sure she would be alive. do you think it makes sense to retcon the death of a minor npc? i say it makes more sense if they had important plans for her, like being a companion. It isnt worth the money to create a substitute companion, so having her live makes it possible for everyone to have her. Finally consider that DA3 is trying to attract DAO fans by continuing leftover plot points and bringing back known faces, and Leliana would fit right in along with morrigan in the game.

Leliana is allready way past level 20. So you would have a PC and two other companions thats on level 1-5, and Leliana thats level 25. Makes it abit un-balanced gameplaywise.