Here's the case: http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Magistrate's_Orders
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Keldar free or executed
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Posté 27 juillet 2013 - 06:34
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What we got here is the son of Magistrate Vanard, Keldar. Who abducts young female elves with the intent to rape and kill them. Keldar believes demons are tormenting him to do so and wants to be slain to escape his madness and guilt. His recent victim who survived the encounter has sympathy for him and believes his tale. Whether or not its true something must be done. I find myself at the crossroads of a moral decision. I believe in justice but also believe that we shouldn't rush to vengeance or taking the law into our own hands. Part of me sympathizes with this case because I believe Keldar needs help and be sentenced to an Asylum. As for the other part believes he should be killed right there and now or be brought in to justice but be sentenced to death row. Keldar's plea for death is a pathetic excuse for him to escape the consequences of his actions and rid himself of his disgusting thirst for little female elves. I truly don't know whether death is freedom or salvation for him. Its a win win for Keldar. But if he lives its still a win because his father is the Magistrate and will never face justice an even if he does is it really justice to let him go free without any punishment. What are your opinions on the matter? What have you done or had done in this situation? When is it ever just for us to take the law into our own hands?
Here's the case: http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Magistrate's_Orders
Here's the case: http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Magistrate's_Orders
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Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 01:25
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I apologize for the previous title. Didn't know if anyone to offense to it or not as for its intention was never meant to cause offense.
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Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 06:22
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I was pondering this myself as I did that quest yesterday. Ultimately, I decided that it was not my place to take justice into my own hands and handed him over to the guards. I then selected the dialogue option that basically tells him that his son needs help, and he brushed me off with his arrogance. I'm sure at some point in Thedas, Keldar will get what's coming to him but not from me.
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Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 01:39
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It HATE taking justice in one own hands. But taking him in will only lead to the magistrate releasing him again sooner or later. And there is no way to cure him from his sickness under the circumstances of Thedas. In this case, I'm afraid killing him is the only way. It's not justice, but the only way to save his possible future victims.
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Posté 11 août 2013 - 02:27
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I always kill him. He asks me to. Every one of your companions agrees that he needs to die, and it isn't very common for your companions to all agree with each other.
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Posté 14 août 2013 - 04:34
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"Some people are just broken." - Aveline
The boy's sick, that's the bare bones fact. He confesses he did it, he confesses it's because he thinks elves are too pretty, and he confesses that he "can't help himself." Basically if he escapes again, he'll kill again - or at least try to. I don't have faith in his magistrate dad to actually make him face any kind or real justice for this. So he gets a complimentary throat massage with Hawke's Knife O' Convenience.
The boy's sick, that's the bare bones fact. He confesses he did it, he confesses it's because he thinks elves are too pretty, and he confesses that he "can't help himself." Basically if he escapes again, he'll kill again - or at least try to. I don't have faith in his magistrate dad to actually make him face any kind or real justice for this. So he gets a complimentary throat massage with Hawke's Knife O' Convenience.
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Posté 14 août 2013 - 05:20
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I always prefer to kill him. Always. He really is twisted, and I also very much dislike his Magistrate father as well. I wish there was an option to kill him too. >_>;
This recent playthrough I am doing though, I decided to keep him alive. When they say the courts won't recognize or really care about what he did to elves though, and the fact that his father is Magistrate, that obviously isn't going to do any justice. I do feel, however, that he would get what is coming to him, especially by the end of Act III.
This recent playthrough I am doing though, I decided to keep him alive. When they say the courts won't recognize or really care about what he did to elves though, and the fact that his father is Magistrate, that obviously isn't going to do any justice. I do feel, however, that he would get what is coming to him, especially by the end of Act III.
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Posté 14 août 2013 - 09:46
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It's best to kill him. Like it or not, he's not going to be locked up or anything. Magistrate's just going to keep protecting him. So he's just going to kill again. And again. And maybe after a while he'll be killed, but not before. At the very least, he'll make another attempt.
When you kill him there, you're saving the lives of future elves down the line. It's not about justice, it's not about vengeance. It's sad, but that's the way it is.
Of course, in-game, the whole issue is kind of compounded by every companion getting friendship points for killing him and everyone getting rivalry if you spare him. The game itself paints it as a bit of a "bad" option, though it's not totally black-and-white and you're free to disagree.
When you kill him there, you're saving the lives of future elves down the line. It's not about justice, it's not about vengeance. It's sad, but that's the way it is.
Of course, in-game, the whole issue is kind of compounded by every companion getting friendship points for killing him and everyone getting rivalry if you spare him. The game itself paints it as a bit of a "bad" option, though it's not totally black-and-white and you're free to disagree.
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Posté 15 août 2013 - 04:11
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He always dies in my playthroughs. I'm not one for playing the Justiciar, but I'm also not going to let someone pick on the little guy and get away with it. In the end, there are some people that need to die in order to save many more lives.
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Posté 15 août 2013 - 05:00
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The first time I played, I delivered him to his father because I feared he would make things difficult for my Hawke further in the game.
After I realized nothing happens one way or the other, I just kill him.
After I realized nothing happens one way or the other, I just kill him.
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Posté 16 août 2013 - 12:03
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I kill him, though I RP different feelings for every Hawke. My aggressive warrior, Gawain was outraged that this man was running around killing CHILDREN. And killed him with extreme prejudice, and made a troll-ish joke about it afterward (he was SOOO not diplomatic in any way, shape or form). And I point out at this time, Aveline gets MORE friend/approval points if you do it rather than letting Fenris do it. My extremely pacifistic healer mage, Lily, saw he was sick, knew it wasn't demons, but knew he needed help, and wanted to help him, but in the end allowed Fenris to do it, since she couldn't bring herself to kill him in cold blood, even if he begged her to. And it's not like Thedas has counselors/psychiatrists to deal with this sort of madness.
Just 2 examples of RP purposes. I always kill him, I've never been able to let him live. His magistrate father won't stop him (can't really bring himself to do what must be done), and more innocent children are going to die.
Just 2 examples of RP purposes. I always kill him, I've never been able to let him live. His magistrate father won't stop him (can't really bring himself to do what must be done), and more innocent children are going to die.
Modifié par sylvanaerie, 16 août 2013 - 12:05 .
