Making the same choices over and over
#26
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 11:25
#27
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 11:34
Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...
Arcian wrote...
David, cut that sh*t out right n-Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...
Man I can only ever make the super bestest paragon choices because HEROISM!
... What is going on? W-what are you doing? Identity theft is not a joke! Millions of families suffer every year!
PRIESTLY!
No one can stop the Davipocalypse!
Our characterization is Legion...
Priestly doesn't work here anymore.
Welcome to Daveburg where heroism and characterization is king.
#28
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 12:33
Roughly estimated 80% of them make largely the same decisions (I guesss around 0.01% of their decisions are different), are paragade, are all of the same gender, have nearly the same background (survivor/colonist, incidentally earthborn) are either infiltrators or engineers and are pretty much completionists, nearly all of them romanced Liara.
edit: Oh, and all of them have default ME1/ME2 femsheps face.
Modifié par Jinx1720, 28 juillet 2013 - 12:35 .
#29
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 02:35
then after 50some playthroughs of saving everyones life, at the end of ME3 i pick refuse and murder the entire galaxy.
thusly, why i abhor ME3s ending to the trilogy.
Modifié par Tron Mega, 28 juillet 2013 - 02:37 .
#30
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 02:43
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Tron Mega wrote...
at the end of ME3 i pick refuse and murder the entire galaxy.
thusly, why i abhor ME3s ending to the trilogy.
It sucks to be an idealist.
Thankfully, I'm not one, but I can understand.
Modifié par StreetMagic, 28 juillet 2013 - 02:43 .
#31
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 02:58
So I force a change by playing as femShep.
#32
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 03:24
Tron Mega wrote...
i play the same Shepard every time. over the course of 50 ME1 playthroughs, 10 ME2, and 5 ME3 playthroughs, i only have 1 renegade playthrough. every shepard ive ever made has saved wrex, left helena blake to live, fist lives, sidonis gets a second chance, the rachni get a second chance, everything i did, i did the right way. the worst part about is that for ME2 i literally have 3 pages of shepards to scroll through for picking my import save. each shepard is a vangaurd or an adept, and each is named with some kind of deviation of 'ryan' like rion, of wri-ahn, or ryann. honestly, no idea which was the shepard i actually wanted to be my canon shepard.
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I'm confused by this. If almost all your Sheps do the same things, does it matter which one is "canon."
#33
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 03:37
#34
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 03:53
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Modifié par StreetMagic, 28 juillet 2013 - 03:54 .
#35
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 03:57
AlanC9 wrote...
As for the topic, there are some choices I go both ways on, but a lot I don't. Either the Renegade option is too douchebaggy, or an option is just kinda dumb, like blowing up Maelon's data.
Because it makes ME3's plot slightly less insulting?
Modifié par Fixers0, 28 juillet 2013 - 03:57 .
#36
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 04:04
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Modifié par StreetMagic, 28 juillet 2013 - 04:06 .
#37
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 04:38
Modifié par klarabella, 28 juillet 2013 - 04:40 .
#38
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 04:44
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klarabella wrote...
Considering you can't un-sacrifice these lives anyway I find the idea of nobly rejecting the results rather silly. At least have someone check if they have some sort of value beyond their original purpose rather than rendering all these deaths completely pointless?
I agree, but I'm just saying.. this is how some people think sometimes. More idealistic than utilitarian. Some people focus on having pure foundations and motives.
Modifié par StreetMagic, 28 juillet 2013 - 04:45 .
#39
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 04:54
It's not a view that I have much respect for, even as someone who plays fairly heavily on the Paragon side most of the time. It sounds like the type of "morality" derived from saying "This is bad and therefore anything that has anything to do with it must also be bad" What's happaned has happened.StreetMagic wrote...
klarabella wrote...
Considering you can't un-sacrifice these lives anyway I find the idea of nobly rejecting the results rather silly. At least have someone check if they have some sort of value beyond their original purpose rather than rendering all these deaths completely pointless?
I agree, but I'm just saying.. this is how some people think sometimes. More idealistic than utilitarian. Some people focus on having pure foundations and motives.
The Collector base isn't a good comparison; the main reason I blow it up is entirely down to not wanting The Illusive Man getting his hands on it. I'd have handed it over to the Alliance or Council.
#40
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 04:55
Necanor wrote...
Well, it depends. I always make a Clint Eastwood looking Sheploo, I always romance Tali(Garrus for FemShep), I always play a mostly Paragon, I always spare Wrex, I always eradicate the Geth and I usually let Legion die in the Collector Base.
However, with the other choices(Council, Rachni, Virmire, Base) I've gone both ways.
If I could make Eastwood, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
#41
Guest_Cthulhu42_*
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 05:03
Guest_Cthulhu42_*
Reminds me of the people who are against stem cell research just because it uses human embryos.klarabella wrote...
Considering you can't un-sacrifice these lives anyway I find the idea of nobly rejecting the results rather silly. At least have someone check if they have some sort of value beyond their original purpose rather than rendering all these deaths completely pointless?
#42
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 05:08
Reorte wrote...
I mostly do (although I've also made other choices occasionally for a "just to see what happens" playthrough). I find it difficult to play too much in contradiction to my personality so hate a lot of the Renegade options.
Me too like this for the most part. I killed the rachni queen in ME1 once and I hated it....had to force myself to keep going and not reload. I also killed off the Council once (same game) for variety's sake. It really made the atmosphere on the Citadel in ME2 a lot different. If only they didn't ignore that outcome by the time 3 starts...... Some of the renegade options though, are mandatory imo, like head-butting Uvenk and punching Han'Gerrel.
#43
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 05:08
Fixers0 wrote...
AlanC9 wrote...
As for the topic, there are some choices I go both ways on, but a lot I don't. Either the Renegade option is too douchebaggy, or an option is just kinda dumb, like blowing up Maelon's data.
Because it makes ME3's plot slightly less insulting?
Huh? No, because the decision is dumb on its face. You've got the data; it's just stupid to throw away a capability even if it's one you don't see a need for at the moment
Modifié par AlanC9, 28 juillet 2013 - 05:09 .
#44
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 05:09
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Cthulhu42 wrote...
Reminds me of the people who are against stem cell research just because it uses human embryos.klarabella wrote...
Considering you can't un-sacrifice these lives anyway I find the idea of nobly rejecting the results rather silly. At least have someone check if they have some sort of value beyond their original purpose rather than rendering all these deaths completely pointless?
True.
I'd say a more common/everyday way you'd see it coming up is if a suspected drug dealer (or worse), contributes to a good cause. If the person running the charity or outreach program knows that, do they accept the drug or blood money? Or maybe it's not even a big "cause". It could be between two family members. What if the decent one is in debt, and the shady one offers to help out -- the decent one might reject the offer, because it's tainted. They'd rather suffer alone.
Kaidan is one of those characters in ME who comments a lot on motives. Whether he did something for the right reasons. He kind of guilts himself over nothing (like Vyrnnus). If you don't choose the renegade option with Udina, Kaidan takes the shot. Afterwards, he'll start questioning himself if it was the right thing to do.
Modifié par StreetMagic, 28 juillet 2013 - 05:11 .
#45
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 05:15
StreetMagic wrote...
True.
I'd say a more common/everyday way you'd see it coming up is if a suspected drug dealer (or worse), contributes to a good cause. If the person running the charity or outreach program knows that, do they accept the drug or blood money? Or maybe it's not even a big "cause". It could be between two family members. What if the decent one is in debt, and the shady one offers to help out -- the decent one might reject the offer, because it's tainted. They'd rather suffer alone.
I'm not quite sure how accurate these analogies are. Any rational person would acknowledge that stem cell research holds far more benefits than drawbacks. A charity taking blood money or a family member being bailed out by a criminal hold real potential dangers for the people involved. It isn't like the aborted fetuses will gain sentience, rob a gun store, and shoot up the laboratory in search of money, all whilst shouting in a ghetto voice.
#46
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 05:15
My opinion is that it is Reaper tech. It's like the One Ring from Lord of the Rings. You kind of have to destroy it because you can't control it, and resorting to using it might lead to some externalities, such as indoctrination, that might end up screwing over your entire effort against the Reapers.
#47
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 05:17
Guest_StreetMagic_*
o Ventus wrote...
StreetMagic wrote...
True.
I'd say a more common/everyday way you'd see it coming up is if a suspected drug dealer (or worse), contributes to a good cause. If the person running the charity or outreach program knows that, do they accept the drug or blood money? Or maybe it's not even a big "cause". It could be between two family members. What if the decent one is in debt, and the shady one offers to help out -- the decent one might reject the offer, because it's tainted. They'd rather suffer alone.
I'm not quite sure how accurate these analogies are. Any rational person would acknowledge that stem cell research holds far more benefits than drawbacks. A charity taking blood money or a family member being bailed out by a criminal hold real potential dangers for the people involved. It isn't like the aborted fetuses will gain sentience, rob a gun store, and shoot up the laboratory in search of money, all whilst shouting in a ghetto voice.
This isn't about rationality though. If it was, everyone would be pragmatic.
I'm saying that idealists dwell on pure intentions and motives. And the world has it's fair share of idealist thinking. The game is merely reflecting that option. Idealism isn't rational. It's value based.. which has it's own form of logic.
Modifié par StreetMagic, 28 juillet 2013 - 05:17 .
#48
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 05:33
"Save Aralahk Company or Rachni? Who would help better in War Effort, Geth or Quarians, Ill let Kaidan shoot Udina to toughen him up a little for what lies ahead"... Stuff like that I can almost interchange each Rene play through.
I do pick all Rene convo options, but some of the decisions I like to think what a ReneShep would really do.
#49
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 05:39
#50
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Posté 28 juillet 2013 - 05:43
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Modifié par StreetMagic, 28 juillet 2013 - 05:46 .





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