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[Maria Caliban]

Why do you think that is?

[ReubenLiew]

No Alistair or Morrigan.

[aimo_ahmed]

High/low fantasy setting/archetypes more accessible than sci-fi?

[JobacNoor]

Looking at the character trends topic, I'd say it's just a case of no Alistair. The sheer amount of stories centered around him is simply absurd.

[Kohaku]

I think that. I had a hard ass time writing anything related to Mass Effect. Dragon Age, the ideas come freely.

[Sagacious Rage]

I think there's more options to write about post-Blight, too. The choices you make in-game have so many different possible endings for the characters that it's interesting to explore where they end up.

[tmelange]

ME's characters were much less compelling than DAO; the relationships between squadmates not not nearly as deep; the love interest storyline in ME was shallow (a handful of conversations); and, if you take a look at fictionpress (the sister site to ff.net), you'll note that people are substantially more predisposed to write fantasy based internet fiction than sci-fi based fiction. That might have to do with the relative difficulty in grasping a science-based setting over a medieval setting. Plus, mostly girls write fan fiction, and there are no elves and horses in sci-fi.

Modifié par tmelange, 18 janvier 2010 - 02:55 .

[ReubenLiew]

Actually yes, the sci-fi bit plays a lot into it to.

In fantasy you can write it off as Magic, but sci-fi you're going to need some makebelivium to make it work, and not everyone can pull it off, making it harder to write for.

[Sialater]

Well, DA:O left things a lot more open ended than ME did. ME was all but tied up with a pretty red bow.

[Maria Caliban]

While Alistiar seems to be the most popular character, there usually is a 'most popular.' I tend to think it's the genre or an element Dragon Age has that Mass Effect lacked.



For example, ME squadmates almost no banter outside the ship and very little to say within it. The love talks were about three different conversations and that's it.

[Sisimka]

There's more story. The main plot of ME is great, don't get me wrong, but there's not a lot of emotional content and you never really get to know your companions. A story needs more than plot, it needs those characters...

[ReubenLiew]

Although the amount of Fanart for ME with female shepard and the variety of aliens *cough*Garrus*cough* seems to be quite a lot...

[Deviija]

More story, depth, and brilliant pages upon pages of meaty lore. That helps stoke the brain fires of creativity.

[Sialater]

ReubenLiew wrote...

Actually yes, the sci-fi bit plays a lot into it to.
In fantasy you can write it off as Magic, but sci-fi you're going to need some makebelivium to make it work, and not everyone can pull it off, making it harder to write for.

I don't think it has anything to do with the science.  The "makebelievium's" already been done for us, after all.

[odiedragon]

The Alistair Factor is not something to be ignored. It is known.



Beyond that, it's the open-endedness of the game for certain. The choices you make in game just make it a natural sandbox for people to jump in and play around in.



Being fantasy over sci-fi is a big factor too. For me personally, it's a lot easier (and more engaging) to write in a fantasy environment over a sci-fi one. Add to that the complex and flawed characters of Dragon Age, and it's all over. People's imaginations run wild, and the fan extrapolations of the story reflect that.

[ReubenLiew]

Personally I think because women don't really like shooters, thats why there aren't more fanfiction for ME...



Probably just me though...

[ReubenLiew]

Sialater wrote...

ReubenLiew wrote...

Actually yes, the sci-fi bit plays a lot into it to.
In fantasy you can write it off as Magic, but sci-fi you're going to need some makebelivium to make it work, and not everyone can pull it off, making it harder to write for.

I don't think it has anything to do with the science.  The "makebelievium's" already been done for us, after all.

I don't know, if you think about it it's not just the science, since you're free to make the universe as you see fit, you need a bit of astronomy in there too. Plus you need guns, ships, computers, all that fancy new tech that MAKES it seem like it's futuristic, and unless you actually are into it, it's hard to write about it, unlike fantasy where tech is so low you already basically understand how most of it (or don't even have to since it's so low tech you can just write it off and people will just say oh yeah, sure) works.

-edit- Plus saying you put a sword through his face is SO much more fun to write that saying you spend the next few minutes hiding behind rubble waiting to get a clear shot at a guy 50 yards away from you.

Modifié par ReubenLiew, 18 janvier 2010 - 03:10 .

[Fraevar]

Because DA:O has more depth of both setting and characters. It's much more interesting to dive into characters you actually have information about.

[TSamee]

Hmmm... I get the feeling that there're more fanfics involving Garrus and female Shepard than all other Mass Effect fan fictions combined. Really says something...



The whole women/shooters statement rings true, though I view this as a good thing. Most male games I know are busy screaming "OMGCOD6SOOOOGOOD!" right now, so it's nice to hold an intelligent conversation regarding characters who aren't Scottish special forces operatives with mohawks...



I think it might also be due to the massive differences in emotional impact. For example, in Mass Effect, the Kaidan/Ashley decision was a cold, calculated move by me; whereas I actually felt loads of emotion and had a tough time making choices like the Dark Ritual or who to elect as king of Orzammar. BioWare have created a much more emotionally moving cast of characters this time, and fans have responded by using those emotions to create fan fiction for them.



Still, if I see one more story about Morrigan and the Warden in a field of daisies...

[ReubenLiew]

But... but scottish mohawked special forces are awesome... 
But yeah the romance in ME felt a little ham-handed, especially with Liara. Although I kinda liked how it went down with Ashley, but that wasn't too great either, I just liked her story with her family.

[TSamee]

I agree with you on the topic of Scots who hide their bald patches by shaving almost all of their hair and smashing terrorists into car hoods XD

Liara was...
"Shepard, I'm madly attracted to... someone. A human.Is this unnatural?"
"Of course not..."
"It's you. For some reason, I've loved you ever since you saved my life. I watch you sleeping via the cameras in your room."
":blink:"
"If you share my feelings, we could form a bond, as my race does..."
":O"

However, the OXM review seems to say that ME2 is very moving, and that it's one of the game's best aspects. So I guess we can expect some deep emotions, though probably not as haunting as the Dark Ritual, with all of its implications.

Modifié par TSamee, 18 janvier 2010 - 03:31 .

[Sialater]

Well, the Kaiden/Shepard romance was brief. Heck, she was up and DRESSED before he even regained consciousness!



There were at least repercussions to Al/Zev/Lel/Morri.

[ReubenLiew]

Also let's not forget awesome old special forces men who've lived since WW2!

Yeah Liara's weird. I mean, it was tense and all, but that was sudden as hell.

[TSamee]

True, but, playing a male Shepard, I found Kaidan to be a pretty cool guy (in the same way Alistair can be an awesome friend to the Warden, but not as much). Thus, I regret leaving him on Virmire. Still, it'll be interesting to see what Ashley's accompished after 2 years.

[Herr Uhl]

There is a greater variation in ways the plot can take in DAO.



And that in DAO, you play yourself, in ME you play Shepard.