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[HellbirdIV]

JusticarFlareon wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

btw, am I the only person here who thinks turians are underrated?

Only reason I think they were was when the Humans defeated them in the First Contact War.

I kind of wish that Mass Effect had taken more of a cue from Babylon 5 and made the First Contact War really show humanity how weak they were compared to the rest of the galaxy.

In B5, humanity is annihilated except for the remnants of their fleet and their last holdout - Earth. The Minbari are poised to completley and utterly eradicate them, and there's nothing in the galaxy that can stop them. Yet EarthForce musters its ships, and draws a line in the sand.

They are crushed, yet... the Minbari surrender. What? Why? And no human finds out for another 10-20 years. It put humanity in a precarious position, showed they were vulnerable - and seeded a great deal of hostility. Yet humanity was greater for it, being able to claim their own place amongst the stars by contributing a stabilizing element to interstellar politics.

The turian-human First Contact War, meanwhile, just shows that humans are stupid and lucky, and anyone who is still pissy about it 26 years later is being an ass.

The turians did the right thing blowing the hell out of the human explorer fleets and occupying Shanxi to stabilize the region - unlike the Minbari, the turians just want to keep the peace. It's their job. So then the humans go and start an insurgency against the legitimate government and the turians begin arming for a full-on human-conquering campaign...

... And it just ends because the asari took pity on how curbstomped we would have been, and humans 20 years later are proud of that? 

Yeah, I hate the "humans are special" cliché.

[Dextro Milk]

RZIBARA wrote...

I dont actually hate Tali, thats the thing. its just her fans can really ****** me off 

To be honest, people that judge a character by their fanbase: They are ****ing idiots.

This goes for Necanor too...

Wtf, seriously guys.

[wolfhowwl]

Oh yeah, the Qurians are victims alright.




Of their own stupidity.

[RZIBARA]

Finn the Jakey wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Dextro Milk wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

and i find her character more interesting than a romanced Tali, who basically worships shepard (Liara isnt much different)

How does Tali "Worship" Shepard?...

Same question for Liara... How does she "Worship" him/her? 

She doesnt agree with everything shepard does, and you have to earn her trust.  Miranda is similar in that aspect. I remember Liara in ME1, the way she creeped you and basically was in love with you the second you met her was annoying. Tali in ME2 is another example, i remember how every damn convo with her involved her hitting/flirting with me, and saying that she would trust me in her suit and what not. im a little rusty on the details, as i havent played the games in a few months

What are you talking about? She says that like once.

She says that once, but its not the only time she flirts with you. that and the fact that She NEVER questions anything you do at all. 

[Dextro Milk]

wolfhowwl wrote...

Oh yeah, the Qurians are victims alright.




Of their own stupidity.

Change your avie, you look like Auld Wulf.

Or do you like being seen as someone extremely... bleh?

[SiniisteR]

JusticarFlareon wrote...

Dextro Milk wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Go back and look again. Linking suits =/= Sexual

She trusts Shepard, or is that "Worship" to you? lol.

@Flare, I didn't say her romance was bad, I said her ranting about politics for the third time drove off any romantic feelings I had for her. She needs to control her mouth tbh.

When I first was told that she would link suits with me, I felt like she was hitting on me. It was majorly awkward.

She says that regardless if your BroShep or FemShep. It's just her way of saying that she trusts Shepard, its just with BroShep she probably means it in more of a "I sorta like you" way.  

[RZIBARA]

Dextro Milk wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

I dont actually hate Tali, thats the thing. its just her fans can really ****** me off 

To be honest, people that judge a character by their fanbase: They are ****ing idiots.

This goes for Necanor too...

Wtf, seriously guys.

Again I dont hate Tali. I actually really like her, but it pisses me off when her fans start praising her and bashing on every other character when she has flaws of her own. I prefer Ashley over tali, but i dont go and start bashing people that like Tali for fun (that is unless you start bashing). Every one has an opinion and there's no reason to attack people over it. 

[Dextro Milk]

RZIBARA wrote...

She says that once, but its not the only time she flirts with you. that and the fact that She NEVER questions anything you do at all. 

So Tali agrees with Shepard in many situations... how is that "worship"?

If you ask me, Ashley crying about aliens in every talk is 10x worse than anything Tali says.

[RZIBARA]

Finn the Jakey wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Finn the Jakey wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Dextro Milk wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

and i find her character more interesting than a romanced Tali, who basically worships shepard (Liara isnt much different)

How does Tali "Worship" Shepard?...

Same question for Liara... How does she "Worship" him/her? 

She doesnt agree with everything shepard does, and you have to earn her trust.  Miranda is similar in that aspect. I remember Liara in ME1, the way she creeped you and basically was in love with you the second you met her was annoying. Tali in ME2 is another example, i remember how every damn convo with her involved her hitting/flirting with me, and saying that she would trust me in her suit and what not. im a little rusty on the details, as i havent played the games in a few months

What are you talking about? She says that like once.

She says that once, but its not the only time she flirts with you. that and the fact that She NEVER questions anything you do at all. 

That applies to basically EVERY character except for Wrex, Ashley and Mordin. At least Tali gets pissed off and yells at you if you if you side with Legion or hand in the data, most of the other characters just go with whatever Shepard wants, no matter how stupid or evil it is (I'm looking at you Garrus and Liara).

Thats why those are some of my favourite characters.  They feel real. As much as i love garrus, he doesnt question you either, and same with Liara

[Dextro Milk]

RZIBARA wrote...

Dextro Milk wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

I dont actually hate Tali, thats the thing. its just her fans can really ****** me off 

To be honest, people that judge a character by their fanbase: They are ****ing idiots.

This goes for Necanor too...

Wtf, seriously guys.

Again I dont hate Tali. I actually really like her, but it pisses me off when her fans start praising her and bashing on every other character when she has flaws of her own. I prefer Ashley over tali, but i dont go and start bashing people that like Tali for fun (that is unless you start bashing). Every one has an opinion and there's no reason to attack people over it. 

Take a look at this thread, and you tell me who really started acting like a jerk first, Hellbird Necanor or Massively?

All three of them fight in every single thread about this, it's really old tbh...

[HellbirdIV]

Dextro Milk wrote...

If you ask me, Ashley crying about aliens in every talk is 10x worse than anything Tali says.

Let me just stop you right there and tell you that you've gone straight to bashing, now.

Ashley does not **** about aliens constantly, she brings it up a few times along with poetry, religion and family.

[RZIBARA]

Finn the Jakey wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

Dextro Milk wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

I dont actually hate Tali, thats the thing. its just her fans can really ****** me off 

To be honest, people that judge a character by their fanbase: They are ****ing idiots.

This goes for Necanor too...

Wtf, seriously guys.

Again I dont hate Tali. I actually really like her, but it pisses me off when her fans start praising her and bashing on every other character when she has flaws of her own. I prefer Ashley over tali, but i dont go and start bashing people that like Tali for fun (that is unless you start bashing). Every one has an opinion and there's no reason to attack people over it. 

That's not really a Talimancer 'thing', I've seen plenty of Tali, Liara, Miranda, and even Ashley fans whining about other characters who aren't 100% like their favourite.

Ive barely ever seen an ashley fan do so,  but that may be because theres so few of them (one of the proud few lol). Yes Miranda and Liara fans do it too.  

[wolfhowwl]

Dextro Milk wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...

Oh yeah, the Qurians are victims alright.




Of their own stupidity.

Change your avie, you look like Auld Wulf.

Or do you like being seen as someone extremely... bleh?

But what else can be said about a species that lost a preemptive strike to revolting agricultural equipment and roombas?

[Soldier096]

If we are talking about in game then the asari are overrated. The most advanced face in the galaxy and they barely accomplish anything without the help of other races. If we are talking about the fan base the Geth, Quarians, and Asari are all completely overrated.

Modifié par Soldier096, 29 juillet 2013 - 07:43 .

[Dextro Milk]

HellbirdIV wrote...

Dextro Milk wrote...

If you ask me, Ashley crying about aliens in every talk is 10x worse than anything Tali says.

Let me just stop you right there and tell you that you've gone straight to bashing, now.

Ashley does not **** about aliens constantly, she brings it up a few times along with poetry, religion and family.

Hell, if Tali is "worshiping" Shepard in every talk, then Ashley is "crying" about aliens in every talk... 

[SiniisteR]

RZIBARA wrote...

Dextro Milk wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

I dont actually hate Tali, thats the thing. its just her fans can really ****** me off 

To be honest, people that judge a character by their fanbase: They are ****ing idiots.

This goes for Necanor too...

Wtf, seriously guys.

Again I dont hate Tali. I actually really like her, but it pisses me off when her fans start praising her and bashing on every other character when she has flaws of her own. I prefer Ashley over tali, but i dont go and start bashing people that like Tali for fun (that is unless you start bashing). Every one has an opinion and there's no reason to attack people over it. 

To be fair, some of the flaws people say Tali has (her awkwardsness, nervousness, etc.) are the reasons why most Talimancers like her. It's why I like her. I guess it's just that the flaws that most people say other characters have are harder to see as a thing they like about them. I doubt there's many people that like Ashley just because of her xenophobic attitude, or Miranda with her big ego. 

[Dextro Milk]

wolfhowwl wrote...

Dextro Milk wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...

Oh yeah, the Qurians are victims alright.




Of their own stupidity.

Change your avie, you look like Auld Wulf.

Or do you like being seen as someone extremely... bleh?

But what else can be said about a species that lost a preemptive strike to revolting agricultural equipment and roombas?

Look up the codex, tools of labor and war. The geth were not little robot kittens.

[HellbirdIV]

wolfhowwl wrote...

But what else can be said about a species that lost a preemptive strike to revolting agricultural equipment and roombas?

The geth revolt begins;

[RZIBARA]

Dextro Milk wrote...

HellbirdIV wrote...

Dextro Milk wrote...

If you ask me, Ashley crying about aliens in every talk is 10x worse than anything Tali says.

Let me just stop you right there and tell you that you've gone straight to bashing, now.

Ashley does not **** about aliens constantly, she brings it up a few times along with poetry, religion and family.

Hell, if Tali is "worshiping" Shepard in every talk, then Ashley is "crying" about aliens in every talk... 

She questions Wrex and Garrus being allowed on the ship once, and then makes a very accurate prediction of the council. Big whoop.

[RZIBARA]

HellbirdIV wrote...

Dextro Milk wrote...

If you ask me, Ashley crying about aliens in every talk is 10x worse than anything Tali says.

Let me just stop you right there and tell you that you've gone straight to bashing, now.

Ashley does not **** about aliens constantly, she brings it up a few times along with poetry, religion and family.

agreed, you learn alot about ashley in ME1, but the only thing anyone seems to remember is the few things she says about aliens. its stupid

[SiniisteR]

Soldier096 wrote...

If we are talking about in game then the asari are overrated. The most advanced face in the galaxy and they barely accomplish anything without the help of other races. If we are talking about the fan base the Geth, Qurians, and Asari are all completely overrated.

I agree with that, if the Asari weren't the first race to discover the Citadel in the current cycle, they would probably be at worst on the same level as the elcor and volus.