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Legion presents: GI solo gold speedrun [14:44] (p.s. imma Geth)


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ISHYGDDT wrote...


There's no need to speculate.  There's a variable attached to each objective in coalesced which gives the weighting for that objective.  It's in biogame->sfxengagement  incidentally both devices and annex (hacks) are split in two: disable/enable and upload/search for reports and are weighted 0.5 each while targets is weighted at 1, so that overall devices/hack/targets are equally likely.  There's another objective which is weighted at 0 called retrieve which is the unimplemented i.e. collect the prothean artifacts objective.  I believe escort and pizza objectives are handled server side, at least their entries are not in the same place in coalesced.  If one were to want to get only 'good' objectives, they could set devices/hacks/targets to 0.  The temptation to do that back when I was still playing was incredible.  If I end up soloing again this is exactly what I'll do 'purity' be damned.


Me too, pretty much. I didn't do it for Glacier only because I'm not a programmer and couldn't be bothered to install a few programs.

Yes, I'm lazy like that. I instead made a ton of attempts which took more time. Logic :wizard:

And yes, sub 14 GI run /is/ possible with triple pizza. Or any combination of 20-second escorts and pizzas.

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

Deerber wrote...

wngmv wrote...

Heldarion wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Heldarion wrote...

wngmv wrote...

On topic, did anyone ever see if the objectives are equally likely? I wouldn't be surprised if device has a higher chance to spawn. But it might be just us.


What I've gathered is that the chance is evenly split across all 5 objectives (0.2 chance for each), but the devices are split further down for some reason, so you have 0.1 for one kind of devices and 0.1 for another kind of devices.


Uh? Which different kind of devices would they be?


I think it's basically the "enable 4" and "disable 4". No idea why.


They are two different things. If they don't separate them they have call RNG again. Makes sense to me. 

Is it a uniform distribution? i. e.1) generate a number between 0 and 1.
2) Disable device if said number is in (0,.1)
Enable device if number is in (.1, .2)
Escort if number is in (.2, .4) 

etc?


I'm pretty sure not even Bioware knows.


There's no need to speculate.  There's a variable attached to each objective in coalesced which gives the weighting for that objective.  It's in biogame->sfxengagement  incidentally both devices and annex (hacks) are split in two: disable/enable and upload/search for reports and are weighted 0.5 each while targets is weighted at 1, so that overall devices/hack/targets are equally likely.  There's another objective which is weighted at 0 called retrieve which is the unimplemented i.e. collect the prothean artifacts objective.  I believe escort and pizza objectives are handled server side, at least their entries are not in the same place in coalesced.  If one were to want to get only 'good' objectives, they could set devices/hacks/targets to 0.  The temptation to do that back when I was still playing was incredible.  If I end up soloing again this is exactly what I'll do 'purity' be damned.

Everything is handled server side, pizza and escort where added later, that's why they are specified in a different place. But who would want to remove pizza or escort anyway, it's those devices that need to go.

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

There's no need to speculate.  There's a variable attached to each objective in coalesced which gives the weighting for that objective.  It's in biogame->sfxengagement  incidentally both devices and annex (hacks) are split in two: disable/enable and upload/search for reports and are weighted 0.5 each while targets is weighted at 1, so that overall devices/hack/targets are equally likely.  There's another objective which is weighted at 0 called retrieve which is the unimplemented i.e. collect the prothean artifacts objective.  I believe escort and pizza objectives are handled server side, at least their entries are not in the same place in coalesced.  If one were to want to get only 'good' objectives, they could set devices/hacks/targets to 0.  The temptation to do that back when I was still playing was incredible.  If I end up soloing again this is exactly what I'll do 'purity' be damned.


Hm. Then all your guys who have devices for wave 10 are really "working as intended". At least this much we know.

Unless their RNG is screwed in some way. <.<

Caratinoid wrote...

Everything is handled server side, pizza and escort where added later, that's why they are specified in a different place. But who would want to remove pizza or escort anyway, it's those devices that need to go.


The probabilites are stored local though. I just want to know if all the obejectives are equally likely. Which seems to be the case.

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wngmv wrote...

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Caratinoid wrote...

Everything is handled server side, pizza and escort where added later, that's why they are specified in a different place. But who would want to remove pizza or escort anyway, it's those devices that need to go.


The probabilites are stored local though. I just want to know if all the obejectives are equally likely. Which seems to be the case.

By server I meant the host.

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Caratinoid wrote...
Everything is handled server side, pizza and escort where added later, that's why they are specified in a different place. But who would want to remove pizza or escort anyway, it's those devices that need to go.


Didn't know that, and you've obviously never tried to solo Rio. 

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Caratinoid wrote...

wngmv wrote...

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Caratinoid wrote...

Everything is handled server side, pizza and escort where added later, that's why they are specified in a different place. But who would want to remove pizza or escort anyway, it's those devices that need to go.


The probabilites are stored local though. I just want to know if all the obejectives are equally likely. Which seems to be the case.

By server I meant the host.


K. I'm computer noob.