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motomotogirl wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

He's referencing the trope, which refers to a tendency by fans to downplay the villainy of a certain character.


lol Wow! I'd heard of the TV tropes but can't say I memorized any of them :lol: You guys...!

Yeah, Cullen isn't a villain. The Arishok fits this description more... if people drew lots and lots of sexy Arishok fanart. (Hint: This is definitely the time for someone to prove me wrong by posting loads of sexy Arishok fanart.)


He wasn't Villain but he was right hand somone closest to being in mage-templar act and they share their views. What positive features he have problem with showing feelings even alistair deals with it better ,sure he was tortured but many characters had bad moments in their lifes or even whole life but deal with it much better for example silas only anders and fenris moaning more than him , even meredith refuse tranquil every mage and he seems in somehow sick way support that.If not being arlik is being positive feature that you have rly low requirements only positve about him i can give that he have some doubts in the end but still massacring and serving mad woman almost to the end.We don't see him long enough that we could see all his features.   

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motomotogirl wrote...

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So you'd actually be into Fat Bastard Cullen?


Who, me? No. Just Cullen who stopped working out and gained 20-30 lbs :lol:


I was actually addressing LolaLei, but thank you for you opinion.

LolaLei wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

So you'd actually be into Fat Bastard Cullen?


Sure, why not. I'm not gonna discriminate.


Ah, that's very kind of you. Motomotogirl doesn't seem to share your opinion.:devil:

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Ravensword wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

So you'd actually be into Fat Bastard Cullen?


Who, me? No. Just Cullen who stopped working out and gained 20-30 lbs :lol:


I was actually addressing LolaLei, but thank you for you opinion.

LolaLei wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

So you'd actually be into Fat Bastard Cullen?


Sure, why not. I'm not gonna discriminate.


Ah, that's very kind of you. Motomotogirl doesn't seem to share your opinion.:devil:


Different folks, different strokes! ;)

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If I get my way, he and all the other Templars will be toothless gutter-prostitutes, willing to degrade themselves in horrific ways for even a teaspoon of lyrium.


How dareeee youuuu *shakes fist at screen*

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I don't see the interest in Cullen as a LI, but I love his character. Also hoping his hair goes back to being on the darker-side. All these blondie guys..

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PlasmaCheese wrote...

I don't see the interest in Cullen as a LI, but I love his character. Also hoping his hair goes back to being on the darker-side. All these blondie guys..

I hope he grows out his hair, so he could whip his hair back and forth with sparkles appearing around him during his first appearance. 

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Battlebloodmage wrote...

PlasmaCheese wrote...

I don't see the interest in Cullen as a LI, but I love his character. Also hoping his hair goes back to being on the darker-side. All these blondie guys..

I hope he grows out his hair, so he could whip his hair back and forth with sparkles appearing around him during his first appearance. 


That would be quite fabulous! :lol:

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LOL.

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LolaLei wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

OLDIRTYBARON wrote...

I know this isn't exactly on topic, but if someone could answer me this I'd be a happy camper:

Why the hell is Cullen so interesting? Is it the voice? The character itself? I'm not hating. I honestly don't get the appeal.


I firmly believe that Cullen has many female Dragon age players as fans because of his apperence. Hes a pretty boy at best. He's got a baby "cute" face that women tend to adore.

If Cullen was a fat and obese and still had the same voice I don't think he would have as many fans as he does now in his current (Kirkwall version) apperence.

Pretty charecters tend to have more fans than the ugly.


And I'm sure that you'd be put off Cassandra or Morrigan if they packed on the pounds too. 


More cushing for the pushing. Thats all I gotta say ;)

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Lord Raijin wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

OLDIRTYBARON wrote...

I know this isn't exactly on topic, but if someone could answer me this I'd be a happy camper:

Why the hell is Cullen so interesting? Is it the voice? The character itself? I'm not hating. I honestly don't get the appeal.


I firmly believe that Cullen has many female Dragon age players as fans because of his apperence. Hes a pretty boy at best. He's got a baby "cute" face that women tend to adore.

If Cullen was a fat and obese and still had the same voice I don't think he would have as many fans as he does now in his current (Kirkwall version) apperence.

Pretty charecters tend to have more fans than the ugly.


And I'm sure that you'd be put off Cassandra or Morrigan if they packed on the pounds too. 


More cushing for the pushing. Thats all I gotta say ;)


LOL, nicely done.

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thats1evildude wrote...

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Me? Naw, I actually dig larger men so it wouldn't be a problem for me at all. ^_^


Oh really? <3

*Takes off shirt*

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Imma comin' a-courtin', mah sexy British rose-petal!


I want the Devs to make Cullen as fat if not fattier than Fat bastard. I wonder how many of his diehard love fans would abandon him because of his weight.

I can see it now... Cullen could no longer handle the stress of being in the Order and so he start porking out, and becoming morbidly obese.

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Like what happens to sports stars when they stop training. Tbh, I think there's a higher chance of him eventually becoming gaunt and weak, what with the lyrium addiction that Templars end up with.

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Lord Raijin wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

LolaLei wrote...
Me? Naw, I actually dig larger men so it wouldn't be a problem for me at all. ^_^


Oh really? <3

*Takes off shirt*

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Imma comin' a-courtin', mah sexy British rose-petal!


I want the Devs to make Cullen as fat if not fattier than Fat bastard. I wonder how many of his diehard love fans would abandon him because of his weight.

I can see it now... Cullen could no longer handle the stress of being in the Order and so he start porking out, and becoming morbidly obese.


Considering a lot of folks want to romance dwarves I don't think it's going to be a huge problem tbh lol. I know some people who want a krogan romance as wekl...so yeah.

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TheKomandorShepard wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

He's referencing the trope, which refers to a tendency by fans to downplay the villainy of a certain character.


lol Wow! I'd heard of the TV tropes but can't say I memorized any of them :lol: You guys...!

Yeah, Cullen isn't a villain. The Arishok fits this description more... if people drew lots and lots of sexy Arishok fanart. (Hint: This is definitely the time for someone to prove me wrong by posting loads of sexy Arishok fanart.)


He wasn't Villain but he was right hand somone closest to being in mage-templar act and they share their views. What positive features he have problem with showing feelings even alistair deals with it better ,sure he was tortured but many characters had bad moments in their lifes or even whole life but deal with it much better for example silas only anders and fenris moaning more than him , even meredith refuse tranquil every mage and he seems in somehow sick way support that.If not being arlik is being positive feature that you have rly low requirements only positve about him i can give that he have some doubts in the end but still massacring and serving mad woman almost to the end.We don't see him long enough that we could see all his features.   


So I'm gonna say this as....nicely as I can.....I can't understand a word your saying. I don't mean to be rude, but it's a bit hard to reply to you. :unsure:

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It isn't so hard...
First i mean that he isn't villain but he was right hand someone who was and they have very similar views simple?
Next is that he is emotionally weak and have problem with dealing with his feelings acting like ten years old simple?
Another is that he is weak character and that he was tortured isn't excuse many other characters suffered and deal with it much better than him like silas.
Ok we go for another sentence , many his fans use as argument that his positive trait is that he was better than some templars in kirkwall what isn't nothing difficult because templars in kirkwall were sadists.

I skip some parts if you have you have any objections read my previous comment.

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LolaLei wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

PlasmaCheese wrote...

I don't see the interest in Cullen as a LI, but I love his character. Also hoping his hair goes back to being on the darker-side. All these blondie guys..

I hope he grows out his hair, so he could whip his hair back and forth with sparkles appearing around him during his first appearance. 


That would be quite fabulous! :lol:


BBM You are golden :lol:

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motomotogirl wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

PlasmaCheese wrote...

I don't see the interest in Cullen as a LI, but I love his character. Also hoping his hair goes back to being on the darker-side. All these blondie guys..

I hope he grows out his hair, so he could whip his hair back and forth with sparkles appearing around him during his first appearance. 


That would be quite fabulous! :lol:


BBM You are golden :lol:

Anytime of the week, baby.

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Battlebloodmage wrote...

I hope he grows out his hair, so he could whip his hair back and forth with sparkles appearing around him during his first appearance. 


FFS, YES.:wub:

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I'm pretty sure class choice won't lock anyone out of a LI.

To be honest, I'm just not into him. First time I met him, he was calmly telling my Surana how he would have killed him in his Harrowing, and later when Cullen was begging him to slaughter all the mages left in the Tower--all the people my Warden grew up with, regardless of whether they were abominations or blood mages or not. Then in DA2, he was second in command of perhaps the most abusive templars in Thedas, turning a blind eye to how many rapes and beatings? And he gave my mage Hawke gems about how mages aren't people and how much he sympathized with Ser Alrik and his ideas. Yeaaahhh, no. Sure, he eventually turns on Meredith, but it took her reaching rock bottom to get there.

Maybe I'll like him better in DA:I, but as it stands right now, he's in danger of being used as dragon bait.

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I've laughed my way through the 3 pages of this. Some of your comments were hilarious, and that picture of the fat guy...(shudders), he was almost like a brood mother. Are there such things as brood fathers?

As far as Cullen's character, I disagreed with some of what he said about mages, but he did seem to feel that he and Meridith weren't on the same track either. Also in his comment about mages not being people, when my character said, "There's fault on both sides", he agreed, and said he'd look into the idea that mages could be taught not to go against the will of Andraste. I don't think he was neary as fanatic about mages as Meridith was.

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You know, I thought Cullen was already confirmed as a companion (as was Cassandra).

No companions have been confirmed by any Bioware developer or representative. All we know is that the list is fixed. That leaked survey may provide some evidence, but it's not a confirmation. 

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Cullen ... I really hope he is in DA:I, I want to know more about that guy.

I don't think he is a fanatic, ruthless Templar. He shows respect to Hawke for helping him, even is he/she is a mage and he even considers changes to the circle after you finish the "Enemies amongst us" quest. When you leave Bethany behind he is not turning your family in for harboring a mage (which I think is a hanging offence by act 2) He spares the mages in act3 and takes full responsibily for them, if they turn to blood magic later on.

When he says "Mages are not like us..." I think he means is literally. Mages are not like ordinary humans because they have magical powers! I'm not saying they are supposed to be caged and beaten/raped, but he is right in that sense. They can be dangerous and he is being vigilant.

When you side with the Templars, he makes it clear that his believes are to protect the mages and people alike, unlike Meredith that only cares for the people of Kirkwall and wants to kill all Mages in the Circle. Yes, he follows her because in the end she is his commanding officer and he believes she is doing the right thing, until he sees she doesn't and steps in.

So yeah, those are my 2 cents. :P

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TheKomandorShepard wrote...

It isn't so hard...
First i mean that he isn't villain but he was right hand someone who was and they have very similar views simple?
Next is that he is emotionally weak and have problem with dealing with his feelings acting like ten years old simple?
Another is that he is weak character and that he was tortured isn't excuse many other characters suffered and deal with it much better than him like silas.
Ok we go for another sentence , many his fans use as argument that his positive trait is that he was better than some templars in kirkwall what isn't nothing difficult because templars in kirkwall were sadists.

I skip some parts if you have you have any objections read my previous comment.


He's guilty by association,  okay I understood that part from before. Can't really dispute that. He does not however share the same views, similar but not the same. It's like saying every cop shares the same view on criminals. Meredith calls for the Rite of Annulment prior to the end of the game, but Cullen actually mentions how the circumstances in Kirkwall don't warrant it, unlike the Circle in Ferelden. Which is pretty different.

I'm unaware of how he acts like a ten year old though. Is it when he is talking to a female mage or after he's been tortured or during his first year in Kirkwall?

Silas was tortured, this is true, but Cullen wasn't just tortured physically, he watched as his friends were killed in front of him and as abominations toyed with his deepest secrets. Both are horrible events, but you can't say, "Other people deal with their problems better,  why are you being a baby?" Some people never get over that kind of torment. They go years and years with PTSD and die. That doesn't make them weak however, makes them really unlucky.

Still being surrounded by sadists for years and not becoming one via peer pressure and a dislike if not hatred of the people he is supposed to protect is pretty telling of how strong he is. One thing of note however is that it's not just his fan's beliefs that he's a good templar, but the devs themselves have labeled him as a moderate so...yeah.

On Cullen's opinion of the Tranquil Solution he actually does not say whether he supports it, but I'd be lying if I said he doesn't seem to lean in its direction.  He doesn't think it's necessary to make use of it more than they already do though. To him it appears that making a mage tranquil is a mercy, WE know it's not, but he doesn't because he didn't get to see Karl. I'm not saying that would change his mind though, I don't believe he'd support it, but I can't say definitely one way or the other because he's a moderate, he could go either way and that's why I find him interesting. 

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Hopefully he got kicked out so my Mage PC can point and laugh at him.

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Danny Boy 7 wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

It isn't so hard...
First i mean that he isn't villain but he was right hand someone who was and they have very similar views simple?
Next is that he is emotionally weak and have problem with dealing with his feelings acting like ten years old simple?
Another is that he is weak character and that he was tortured isn't excuse many other characters suffered and deal with it much better than him like silas.
Ok we go for another sentence , many his fans use as argument that his positive trait is that he was better than some templars in kirkwall what isn't nothing difficult because templars in kirkwall were sadists.

I skip some parts if you have you have any objections read my previous comment.


He's guilty by association,  okay I understood that part from before. Can't really dispute that. He does not however share the same views, similar but not the same. It's like saying every cop shares the same view on criminals. Meredith calls for the Rite of Annulment prior to the end of the game, but Cullen actually mentions how the circumstances in Kirkwall don't warrant it, unlike the Circle in Ferelden. Which is pretty different.

I'm unaware of how he acts like a ten year old though. Is it when he is talking to a female mage or after he's been tortured or during his first year in Kirkwall?

Silas was tortured, this is true, but Cullen wasn't just tortured physically, he watched as his friends were killed in front of him and as abominations toyed with his deepest secrets. Both are horrible events, but you can't say, "Other people deal with their problems better,  why are you being a baby?" Some people never get over that kind of torment. They go years and years with PTSD and die. That doesn't make them weak however, makes them really unlucky.

Still being surrounded by sadists for years and not becoming one via peer pressure and a dislike if not hatred of the people he is supposed to protect is pretty telling of how strong he is. One thing of note however is that it's not just his fan's beliefs that he's a good templar, but the devs themselves have labeled him as a moderate so...yeah.

On Cullen's opinion of the Tranquil Solution he actually does not say whether he supports it, but I'd be lying if I said he doesn't seem to lean in its direction.  He doesn't think it's necessary to make use of it more than they already do though. To him it appears that making a mage tranquil is a mercy, WE know it's not, but he doesn't because he didn't get to see Karl. I'm not saying that would change his mind though, I don't believe he'd support it, but I can't say definitely one way or the other because he's a moderate, he could go either way and that's why I find him interesting. 


He get his position by sharing her views it clear that meredith totally hate those who have something to say about her methods and even punish them for that.He had doubts somone who helping rapist in rape but still he choose help him in rape so hardly that makes that person better.About his behavior all this situations srly if woman ask you go to bed what mature person do if don't want to he refuse not runing like 10 year old baby what was kissed by girl and what in second meeting he doesn't act better please just don't use torture as excuse many characters acts more mature than him and suffer a lot and even suffer for entire life he is a tool to the templars.

Ohh wow so not becoming sadist mean that you are strong not he wasn't sadist but dictator that slowy reaching meredith level his hatred to mages was meredith like not like arlik.He is character type that say that mages push meredith into that because they dear oppose her duty to control them you can't push that character in other side because you will create different character and what this character represented it would be like meredith showing in inquisition and saying "oh sorry i got better but now we should help mages because they are innocent".    

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 30 juillet 2013 - 04:33 .