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Please Copy Off Dragon's Dogma.

Débuté par Guest_Trista Hawke_* , juil. 30 2013 04:32

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Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 04:32

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 Before anyone thread-rages, I'm not referring to anything else in Dragon's Dogma but character creation. 

My Arisen - and her respective pawn - look so incredibly different from others' PC's and pawns. She actually feels like she's my role playing character, created by me. I'm not a modder, so folks like myself benefit from an array of physical feature options, right down to the way our PC stands/slouches. 

In DAO and DA2 the bodies were all stock female/stock male. I didn't like it. I don't understand why Dragon Age sells itself as being an immersive, customizable RPG when they shove default heroes with default bodies (bodies you can't change) down our collective throats.

If Bioware is trying to break through the mold and redeem themselves from DA2, I feel they should copycat - if not improve upon - Capcom's character creation system from Dragon's Dogma. In addition to that, they should copycat - if not improve upon - Capcom's weapon/armor/clothing selection from Dragon's Dogma as well. 

I'd gladly shave down/give up resources wasted on some of the more superfluous DA gimmicks to place more unique focus on the central figure of the entire game: YOU.

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Modifié par Trista Hawke, 30 juillet 2013 - 04:33 .

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Little Princess Peach
Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 04:34

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Trista I agree with you the CC in dragons dogma is amazing, I don't see someone else using my role playing character, what really bothers me about dragon age is even an npc could end up looking like the hero it's annoying.

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Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 04:34

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If we're going that far out, let's copy the sims 3 CC instead.

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Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 04:36

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Tharja wrote...

Trista I agree with you the CC in dragons dogma is amazing, I don't see someone else using my role playing character, what really bothers me about dragon age is even an npc could end up looking like the hero it's annoying.

 

Exactly! Lol. In DAO, when I played a rogue, my pc's body - and at times hair - looked like Leliana's! <_<

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Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 04:38

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Trista Hawke wrote...

Tharja wrote...

Trista I agree with you the CC in dragons dogma is amazing, I don't see someone else using my role playing character, what really bothers me about dragon age is even an npc could end up looking like the hero it's annoying.

 

Exactly! Lol. In DAO, when I played a rogue, my pc's body - and at times hair - looked like Leliana's! <_<

At least you did not look like morrigans twin XD

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Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 04:39

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ScarMK wrote...

If we're going that far out, let's copy the sims 3 CC instead.

 

I've never played that. Is the CC in Sims 3 pretty good? Hell, they're made by the same parent company, right? They should integrate it into DAI if it's a good CC system.

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Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 04:40

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I hope we get a dmo of this game so we can see what the CC looks like

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Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 04:41

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Trista Hawke wrote...

ScarMK wrote...

If we're going that far out, let's copy the sims 3 CC instead.

 

I've never played that. Is the CC in Sims 3 pretty good? Hell, they're made by the same parent company, right? They should integrate it into DAI if it's a good CC system.


While you can't alter height,  the amount of customization you get for the face is impressive.  The body isn't that bad either muscle size, muscle definition, fat, breast, and even..body hair sliders/options.  You'd probably be better off looking it up or youtubing it than having me try to describe it.

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Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 04:42

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Tharja wrote...

Trista Hawke wrote...

Tharja wrote...

Trista I agree with you the CC in dragons dogma is amazing, I don't see someone else using my role playing character, what really bothers me about dragon age is even an npc could end up looking like the hero it's annoying.

 

Exactly! Lol. In DAO, when I played a rogue, my pc's body - and at times hair - looked like Leliana's! <_<

At least you did not look like morrigans twin XD

 

Lol yeah. My PC might have had to invest in a shirt.

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Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 04:43

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Tharja wrote...

I hope we get a dmo of this game so we can see what the CC looks like

 

Does Bioware normally do that?

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Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 04:44

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ScarMK wrote...

Trista Hawke wrote...

ScarMK wrote...

If we're going that far out, let's copy the sims 3 CC instead.

 

I've never played that. Is the CC in Sims 3 pretty good? Hell, they're made by the same parent company, right? They should integrate it into DAI if it's a good CC system.


While you can't alter height,  the amount of customization you get for the face is impressive.  The body isn't that bad either muscle size, muscle definition, fat, breast, and even..body hair sliders/options.  You'd probably be better off looking it up or youtubing it than having me try to describe it.

 

Sounds interesting! I think I will.

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Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 04:48

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Trista Hawke wrote...

Tharja wrote...

I hope we get a dmo of this game so we can see what the CC looks like

 

Does Bioware normally do that?

They made a demo for DA2, and we had that CC thing from DA:O, and as for the sims3 cc I don't think it would fit in a DA game wrong sort of feeling.

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Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 04:49

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I fully support this idea the CC in DD is far more complex and wide then DA it would be nice to see something like that in DAI personally I like to spend hours on my character to get it to look the way I want it too , they have said something that they know how important CC is to us so I hope that they have implemented more features in that department.

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Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 04:52

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Tharja wrote...

Trista Hawke wrote...

Tharja wrote...

I hope we get a dmo of this game so we can see what the CC looks like

 

Does Bioware normally do that?

They made a demo for DA2, and we had that CC thing from DA:O, and as for the sims3 cc I don't think it would fit in a DA game wrong sort of feeling.


Out of curiosity, why do you not think it would fit?  If you're referring to the background,(The mirror, bedroom etc), that's easily changed.

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Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 04:52

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ag99 wrote...

I fully support this idea the CC in DD is far more complex and wide then DA it would be nice to see something like that in DAI personally I like to spend hours on my character to get it to look the way I want it too , they have said something that they know how important CC is to us so I hope that they have implemented more features in that department.

I hope so I don't want my hero to end up looking like someones mother.

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Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 04:53

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ScarMK wrote...

Tharja wrote...

Trista Hawke wrote...

Tharja wrote...

I hope we get a dmo of this game so we can see what the CC looks like

 

Does Bioware normally do that?

They made a demo for DA2, and we had that CC thing from DA:O, and as for the sims3 cc I don't think it would fit in a DA game wrong sort of feeling.


To me it feels to modern even with out the mirror and things, it just screams futureristic game to me.

Out of curiosity, why do you not think it would fit?  If you're referring to the background,(The mirror, bedroom etc), that's easily changed.


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Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 05:08

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If they've got folks sitting around with nothing better to do, sure, I've no problem with this. Given how unlikely that is, I'd rather the resources be allocated to other things.

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Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 05:13

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Personally, this falls under the notion of resource optimization. That is, while Dragon's Dogma does indeed have a pretty killer CC (including different heights!) and I like it a lot, character customization is secondary to additional story/quests/spells/skills/etc so I'd only want that sort of thing if it didn't take much in the way of resources to implement.

One of the best RPGs I ever played had no character customization at all...

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Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 05:23

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sunsphere5 wrote...

Personally, this falls under the notion of resource optimization. That is, while Dragon's Dogma does indeed have a pretty killer CC (including different heights!) and I like it a lot, character customization is secondary to additional story/quests/spells/skills/etc so I'd only want that sort of thing if it didn't take much in the way of resources to implement.

One of the best RPGs I ever played had no character customization at all...

 

Well, that's why I specified they should decrease/eliminate superfluous DA gimmicks. I bet if fans put their minds together, there would be significant overlap on what's considered the most superfluous aspects of the Dragon Age games.

I'd shave down some of the cut scenes' lengths. A little bit off each one would appear negligible per scene, but would add up to a good amount of extra resources. Eliminating those very brief/minor fetch quests would help too. Don't think I'd ever miss those. They weren't even that interactive.

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Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 05:31

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I keep hearing good things about Dragon's Dogma. Worth buying?

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Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 05:33

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I support this thread. I loved the CC in DD.

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Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 05:37

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Zazzerka wrote...

I keep hearing good things about Dragon's Dogma. Worth buying?

hell yes,

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Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 05:46

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Zazzerka wrote...

I keep hearing good things about Dragon's Dogma. Worth buying?


I will let you know in a few days when I finish!:D

Seriously, it seems like a fun RPG, open world and all that.  I also think it's come down in price, so I'd give it some thought for sure.


Well, that's why I specified they should decrease/eliminate superfluous
DA gimmicks. I bet if fans put their minds together, there would be
significant overlap on what's considered the most superfluous aspects of
the Dragon Age games.

I'd shave down some of the cut scenes'
lengths. A little bit off each one would appear negligible per scene,
but would add up to a good amount of extra resources. Eliminating those
very brief/minor fetch quests would help too. Don't think I'd ever miss
those. They weren't even that interactive.


Well, now we're in the realm of speculation and personal preference.  i have no idea how to weigh the resources for a simple fetch quest or two (and I don't recall there being many of those beyond the standard "tutorial" quests which are there for new players) compared to a CC like in Dragon's Dogma.  That's for the project managers and designers to determine.

I would object to the cutscene comment though, simply because those tend to be pretty integral to the quests/storylines.  I value those more than CC options. 

But again, personal preferences here.  And don't get me wrong, I really thought DD nailed customization, i spent way too much time playing around during character creation:lol:.

Planescape: Torment....

Modifié par sunsphere5, 30 juillet 2013 - 05:46 .

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Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 05:54

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Not happening, also they can't copycat something that runs on a totally different engine

Zazzerka wrote...

I keep hearing good things about Dragon's Dogma. Worth buying?


It HEAVILY depens of what you're excpecting

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Posté 30 juillet 2013 - 05:57

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Vapaä wrote...

Not happening, also they can't copycat something that runs on a totally different engine

Zazzerka wrote...

I keep hearing good things about Dragon's Dogma. Worth buying?


It HEAVILY depens of what you're excpecting


I'm pretty sure the OP doesn't mean to literally copy the CC from a different game, they are expressing a desire for a conceptually similar CC, i.e.  the # of customization and options available to the player...


Edit: Or maybe they do mean that, "copycat" is a strong word.  In which case, someone else can explain IP and engines and what not....

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