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Are there choices that should have been removed?

Débuté par Jorji Costava , juil. 31 2013 04:24

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AresKeith
Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:03

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David7204 wrote...

I'm having a hard time telling if you're serious or not.

So you're saying that you, personally, accomplished the feat of saving the galaxy because you received achievements for the Xbox 360 games Mass Effect 1, 2, and 3 on your 'Gamertag'? That you did it? That Shepard wouldn't have been able to do any of that without you personally sitting in front of the screen pressing buttons?


Yeah!

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Element Engine
Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:03

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This forum is weird.

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Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:05

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The story of Mass Effect exists whether you play it or not, just like every other story. The fact that Shepard does these things in his or her universe exists whether you play it or not.

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Cainhurst Crow
Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:06

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Element Engine wrote...

This forum is weird.


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#105
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Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:07

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David7204 wrote...

The story of Mass Effect exists whether you play it or not, just like every other story. The fact that Shepard does these things in his or her universe exists whether you play it or not.


Ok!

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Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:08

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David7204 wrote...

The story of Mass Effect exists whether you play it or not, just like every other story. The fact that Shepard does these things in his or her universe exists whether you play it or not.


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Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:08

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Photoshop ensures that the internet never runs out of lols.

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Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:09

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David7204 wrote...

The story of Mass Effect exists whether you play it or not, just like every other story. The fact that Shepard does these things in his or her universe exists whether you play it or not.

You do know that....
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Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:11

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I See David is still preacing out of the book of heroism, too bad, since most of use are degenerate heretics that rather prefer to use logic and reason.

Modifié par Fixers0, 31 juillet 2013 - 06:14 .

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Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:11

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It's really not that difficult a concept. This would certainly explain some of the reactions of people on this forum, if they honestly do think they are personally galactic saviors instead of players sitting on their butts pressing buttons.

Modifié par David7204, 31 juillet 2013 - 06:11 .

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Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:13

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Fixers0 wrote...

I See David is still preacing out of the book of heroism, too bad, since most of use are degenerate heretics that rather prefer use logic and reason.


I kind of find this new tactic entertaining though. Uphold heroism by negating players completely.

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Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:13

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David7204 wrote...

It's really not that difficult a concept. This would certainly explain some of the reactions of people on this forum, if they honestly do think they are personally galactic saviors instead of players sitting on their butts pressing buttons.


Wait are you saying that wasn't actually me rolling around in bed with Liara?

:crying:

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Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:15

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David7204 wrote...

I'm having a hard time telling if you're serious or not.

So you're saying that you, personally, accomplished the feat of saving the galaxy because you received achievements for the Xbox 360 games Mass Effect 1, 2, and 3 on your 'Gamertag'? That you did it? That Shepard wouldn't have been able to do any of that without you personally sitting in front of the screen pressing buttons?


That's exactly what I'm saying, using the stipulated logic that you yourself are using (and refusing to buck from).

I did everything. Not Shepard. He's just a man.

I have my gamertag to back me up as factual proof. 

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 31 juillet 2013 - 06:16 .

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Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:17

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David7204 wrote...

It's really not that difficult a concept. This would certainly explain some of the reactions of people on this forum, if they honestly do think they are personally galactic saviors instead of players sitting on their butts pressing buttons.


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Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:17

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Honest question. Why are people so defensive about this utterly simple concept and obvious concept? The player does not make Shepard great any more than the movie viewer makes Batman or James Bond great. Any more than the reader makes Harry Potter great.

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Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:18

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David7204 wrote...

Honest question. Why are people so defensive about this utterly simple concept and obvious concept? The player does not make Shepard great any more than the movie viewer makes Batman or James Bond great. Any more than the reader makes Harry Potter great.


All of those examples aren't even interactive fiction.

Modifié par StreetMagic, 31 juillet 2013 - 06:19 .

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Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:18

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David7204 wrote...

Honest question. Why are people so defensive about this utterly simple concept and obvious concept? The player does not make Shepard great any more than the movie viewer makes Batman or James Bond great. Any more than the reader makes Harry Potter great.


...people are acting defensive?

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Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:19

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David7204 wrote...

Honest question. Why are people so defensive about this utterly simple concept and obvious concept? The player does not make Shepard great any more than the movie viewer makes Batman or James Bond great. Any more than the reader makes Harry Potter great.


What are you talking about?

Modifié par AresKeith, 31 juillet 2013 - 06:19 .

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Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:19

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StreetMagic wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Honest question. Why are people so defensive about this utterly simple concept and obvious concept? The player does not make Shepard great any more than the movie viewer makes Batman or James Bond great. Any more than the reader makes Harry Potter great.


All of those examples aren't even interactive fiction.


Yep. That was kind of the point.

#120
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Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:34

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David7204 wrote...

Honest question. Why are people so defensive about this utterly simple concept and obvious concept? The player does not make Shepard great any more than the movie viewer makes Batman or James Bond great. Any more than the reader makes Harry Potter great.


Because Shepard is a video game character, an interactive medium that requires active audience participation within the plot via a Player character, in this case, one whom we can define down to Shepard's appearance, gender, background, capabilities, choices, philosophies, demeanor, behavior, attitudes, ideas, beliefs, relationships, etc.

You can't do that with 007. It's in a novel form by Ian Fleming, or a movie by Cubby Broccoli. Same with Batsy. Same with Harry Pothead. It's passive audience participation. We don't control the flow of the story. We don't control the outcomes of events. We're just passive observers.

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Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:34

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james bond is a movie and a separate character. of course i didn't do those things. but i am shepard cause i controlled his actions and saved the universe. i am shepard. you just don't understand the medium you are dumb probably.

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Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:35

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Element Engine wrote...

This forum is weird.


It could use an enema.

#123
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Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:37

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To be fair, Shepard is written to be "great" regardless of what we do in the game. No matter the background, no matter the choices you make, completing the game will automatically have other characters praise Shepard for a job well done, even when you betray friends and render whole species extinct in the process lol

Unless you refuse, then there's no one left to praise anything.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 31 juillet 2013 - 06:40 .

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Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:38

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shepard is us. we are shepard. he does not exist without us. cause we are him.

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Posté 31 juillet 2013 - 06:41

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KaiserShep wrote...

To be fair, Shepard is written to be "great" regardless of what we do in the game. No matter the background, no matter the choices you make, completing the game will automatically have other characters praise Shepard for a job well done, even when you betray friends and render whole species extinct in the process lol


Yeah, I can't even talk to those characters anymore. I prefer the ones who talk more smack (Jack) or admit praise begrudingly (say, like Grunt, Miranda, or Javik). The others remind me of kids who follow me around and look up to me a bit too much. Some people get off on that. I don't.

Modifié par StreetMagic, 31 juillet 2013 - 06:41 .

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