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[voice_of_darkness]

 My question is based on Bioware's track record. If DA: I has some controversy which the fans universally despise like a Starchild, would you still support Bioware? I already dropped this series after the failure that was DA2 but I was wondering what the rest of you that still stay with this series would think

Modifié par voice_of_darkness, 31 juillet 2013 - 10:12 .

[Face of Evil]

If you dropped the series, why do you care?

[Weskerr]

If something like that happened, it would be the last straw for me, so to speak. I wouldn't buy BioWare games at all after that. However, I have a good feeling about DA: I.

[voice_of_darkness]

Face of Evil wrote...

If you dropped the series, why do you care?

Curiosity. Is it a crime to wonder how loyal Bioware fans will be after two bombshells?

[Angrywolves]

DAf franchise would be over, Gaider would be gone, some Bioware employees would lose their jobs and the remaing ones in Edmonton would probably be assigned some star wars related ip to work on.

[voice_of_darkness]

I can only imagine the reaction if this was the ending to DA: I :

You find yourself in an underground cave when suddenly the Maker appears to you as a small child from the beginning of the game who got killed. He offers you a choice of destroy the mages, control the Templars, or turn everyone into a mage. Either way, the borders between countries are destroyed which plunges the world into a dark age.

[Secretlyapotato]

Yes, because I don't care about the Starchild, or whatever whiny fans are raging about.

Modifié par Secretlyapotato, 31 juillet 2013 - 10:29 .

[Cimeas]

It won't, because ME3 looked bad because it followed the incredibly awesome ME2, generally considered to be the best game in the series.

DA2 is far from better than DAO

Modifié par Cimeas, 31 juillet 2013 - 10:31 .

[franciscoamell]

I actually love DA2 and ME3 so I don't think I'll be disapointed in DAI. But who knows, anything is possible...

[Bionuts]

Starchild was not a bad idea. It's that the idea wasn't something founded in the prior games leading up to ME3.

So, people wonder why the reapers were mentally/physically torturing organic life, why they were taunting Shepard, etc.

Also, ME3 was just horrible done. Pride, as well as ego took over, so the writers wanted to take advantage that many people going to play the game. They had a large audience, and wanted to use it tell a story. In doing so, they forced a personality on Shepard, auto-dialogued most things, etc.

[Ziggeh]

So you're asking how I would react if a company that makes excellent but often flawed games made an excellent but flawed game?

I suspect, being a reasonable person, that having not had my unrealistic expectations met I would vow never to play anything they ever make again in an act of defiance that would undoubtably make them see the error of their ways.

[Leanansidhe]

If DA:I was like ME3, I would scream with pure, undiluted joy, since ME3 is the best game BioWare ever made. 

And I've been playing their games since Baldur's Gate was released lo, those many years ago.

[cjones91]

SKRemaks wrote...

If DA:I was like ME3, I would scream with pure, undiluted joy, since ME3 is the best game BioWare ever made. 

And I've been playing their games since Baldur's Gate was released lo, those many years ago.

Eh....I would'nt call ME3 the best game Bioware has made because that title goes to DAO in my opinion.

[RenegadeXV]

SKRemaks wrote...

If DA:I was like ME3, I would scream with pure, undiluted joy, since ME3 is the best game BioWare ever made. 

This, essentially. As much as I love BioWare's previous games, ME3 was the game that was able to consistently strike me emotionally. Sure, there were flaws, but I've yet to find anything in life without them.

Modifié par COGNiTiON 1, 31 juillet 2013 - 11:22 .

[EvilChani]

The chance that DA:I will be the same type of game as ME3 is precisely why I'm not pre-ordering it. Until the game has been out long enough for me to find out how it progresses and ends, I'm not buying it. If it is anything at all like ME3 (requiring MP to get the 'best' ending, using cutscenes to force my character to make choices she would never even consider, killing off a love interest because the devs "forgot about him until it was all done and didn't figure anyone would care anyway because they like another LI choice best", making some stupid god child to solve all the problems and have some retarded 'artsy' ending like ME3 had, and, finally, kill my damned character no matter what choices I make) then they can keep the damned game and I'll keep playing the first two and use headcanon for what follows.

They flat out ruined the ME series for me, to the point where I can't stomach even thinking about playing ME1 or ME2 because it's utterly pointless given how things turn out, and I will not let that happen with the DA series. If need be, I'll just pretend there were only two games rather than three. Wish I had done that with ME instead of giving them the benefit of the doubt and buying ME3. Never did finish that piece of crap. Got to the part right before the endgame and quit, and I never will finish it. I'd just as soon watch a bowl of ice cream melt. There's enough misery in real life...I don't need it or want it in my entertainment.

[wolfhowwl]

Maker noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[DarkKnightHolmes]

No man it's the other way around, ME3 was the DA2 of the Mass Effect series.

[Steppenwolf]

Weskerr wrote...

If something like that happened, it would be the last straw for me, so to speak. I wouldn't buy BioWare games at all after that. However, I have a good feeling about DA: I.

Exactly this. I've been playing BioWare's games for a very long time and for a long time their games were just getting better and better. Origins and ME1 are in my top 5 games of all time. But I was let down by ME2's lazy story and DA2's unfocused story and total lack of polish. Then ME3 broke my brain. I like almost nothing about ME3. The MP is the best part of ME3 to me and I don't even play competitive shooters. At all.
So yes, if Inquisition is a lousy game I very much doubt I will buy a BioWare game again.

[Maria Caliban]

voice_of_darkness wrote...

If DA: I has some controversy which the fans universally despise like a Starchild, would you still support Bioware?

Yes.

[Maria Caliban]

**double post**

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 01 août 2013 - 01:16 .

[Eternal Phoenix]

ME3's ending was bad but that's not what was the worst thing with it. Assassin's Creed 3 had a worst ending (hell it was actually rather similar to ME3's endings just go and watch them on YT) but it didn't generate the same out-roar. Why? Well it's not an RPG where your choices are supposed to have impact. For me that was the biggest problem with the ME series. The only real choices that lead to consequences and plot impacts are the deaths of characters.

Combine that with how much auto-dialogue there was in ME3 and it came out feeling like a shooter with lite-RPG elements.

I'd rather have an RPG heavy game with a bad ending than the opposite. So long as Inquisition has good gameplay, choices with consequences, as little auto-dialogue as possible, player control and medium RPG elements then I'm happy. Divinity II: DKS has a rather poor ending (well it's not particularly bad but it's hardly great) but I still played through the game again several times afterwards.

In fact Dragon Age 2 (with more time) would have been a good game in my eyes. Instead it's mediocre IMO due to combat being used to fill up content alongside choices that don't matter and fetch side quests plus the recycled areas. On re-evaluation of the combat the only real problem for me with that was the ridiculous animations and classes not being balanced. Now I'm not saying with these things fixed DA2 would have been better than Origins but it would have been a down-right good game.

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 01 août 2013 - 01:30 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

I'd laugh my ass off at whatever bullcrap excuse BW tries to use this time around.

[JCAP]

I have a good feeling about DA:I. They are taking their time and the story promise to be very interesting. I will not pre-purchase but it is definitely on my shop list.

But assuming it will be a fail... I think I would be done with Bioware, I would still pay attention to their next releases but I would not be a fan anymore. Failing 1 time is understandable (DA2, sorry to people who liked it, but for me and many others it was a fail), 2 times is bad luck (ME3), but 3 times is just stupid.

Modifié par JCAP, 01 août 2013 - 01:30 .

[Scarlet Rabbi]

Yes, I would still support Bioware; thought not out of blind love or loyalty to the the brand, I'd think of it more as a necessary move as an avid RPG player. Who else is pushing out half decent fantasy RPGs now days aside from Bioware and Bethesda? From Software, I suppose. The studio that made KoA: Amalur is gone...Yes, I'd still support Bioware; beggars can't be choosers.