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[Willowhugger]

I love Cerberus.  I really do.  Specifically, I love to hate these guys.  To me, they're the breakout villains of Mass Effect 1.  Despite having almost no character development in the first game, I came to hate them almost as much as Saren.  I certainly hated Cerberus more than I hated the Geth.  I don't know why I had such a visceral reaction to them but I'm glad they're back for the sequel and am interested in how exactly they're going to handle Shepard's relationship with them.

(I do like how the Illusive Man only meets with you via holograms.  He must understand my character would shoot him in the face)

Do you think they'll be wrapped up as a plotline in Mass Effect 2?  Or do you think they'll carry over as villains into part 3?

Will it be possible to join them sincerely or even take over?

How about killing IM?

Interesting thoughts I think.

[Stofsk]

I knew after playing ME1 that Cerberus would become a factor in the sequels. I don't think they'll be 'wrapped up' in ME2, as the third novel is about the Illusive Man and Cerberus still being active. They'll play a big part in ME3 is my prediction.

[Willowhugger]

I think they'll be an option to join Cerberus sincerely in the game. There's a racist bent to some of the Renegade options and it occurs to me that you could definitely play to Miranda's loyalty and eventually become the Illusive Man's 2nd in Command.



As long as he's spouting his Pro-Human gibberish.

[GrouchoMarxist]

Willowhugger wrote...

I think they'll be an option to join Cerberus sincerely in the game. There's a racist bent to some of the Renegade options and it occurs to me that you could definitely play to Miranda's loyalty and eventually become the Illusive Man's 2nd in Command.

As long as he's spouting his Pro-Human gibberish.

Or take his place, which would be awesome.

[DPSSOC]

Willowhugger wrote...

(I do like how the Illusive Man only meets with you via holograms.  He must understand my character would shoot him in the face)

That and he would be very Illusive if he met you face to face, he's got a name to uphold.

Willowhugger wrote...

Do you think they'll be wrapped up as a plotline in Mass Effect 2?  Or do you think they'll carry over as villains into part 3?

I doubt they'll be wrapped up and who says they're villains?  Looking at the track record there's a chance Shepard's far worse than these people.

Willowhugger wrote...

Will it be possible to join them sincerely or even take over?

Hope you can join, doubt you can take over.

Willowhugger wrote...

How about killing IM?

Doubt it.

[TwoStu]

I remember when i first heard of me2's story, it was talking about the mysterious organisation cerberus from teh first game, i was like : "Who? oh must be one of teh corps on noveria or something" Had to go through another playthrough to find out what part they played in me1



I dont see them disappearing at the end of me2, i can see me3 having them as a very minor part of the story, but alot more then in me1

[Zulu_DFA]

Want to kill TIM? Vote here!

[Stofsk]

I doubt they'll be wrapped up and who says they're villains?  Looking at the track record there's a chance Shepard's far worse than these people.

Their track record in ME1 shows they're not exactly on the side of the angels. They experimented with rachni, who ended up escaping and killed Alliance personnel on two listening posts (killing all the base personnel at one listening post and decimating the other one). They killed ADM Kohuku's team by baiting a trap for them, and murdered ADM Kohuku when he uncovered information about their organisation. They were also responsible for the akuze fiasco, which again had Alliance personnel die with one sole survivor (either your Shepard if you selected it in chargen, or Corporal Toombs if not). They also killed off a colonial pioneer team (NOT military personnel, but implied to be civilians) who ended up being turned into husks.

All in all, pretty damn villainous to me. For a pro-human organisation, they sure kill a lot of humans. While you could play Shepard as a super-renegade and perform some villainous actions yourself - killing the possessed on Feros and committing genocide against the rachni on Noveria being the two most blatantly obvious examples - Shepard is, after all, one man. There's a limit to how much damage one man can do. When you have an organisation behind you, the potential to do damage increases exponentially.

[Wolverfrog]

Cerberus isn't all the bad...



*Thinks back to out of control thread I spawned*

[DPSSOC]

stofsk wrote...

I doubt they'll be wrapped up and who says they're villains?  Looking at the track record there's a chance Shepard's far worse than these people.

Their track record in ME1 shows they're not exactly on the side of the angels. They experimented with rachni, who ended up escaping and killed Alliance personnel on two listening posts (killing all the base personnel at one listening post and decimating the other one). They killed ADM Kohuku's team by baiting a trap for them, and murdered ADM Kohuku when he uncovered information about their organisation. They were also responsible for the akuze fiasco, which again had Alliance personnel die with one sole survivor (either your Shepard if you selected it in chargen, or Corporal Toombs if not). They also killed off a colonial pioneer team (NOT military personnel, but implied to be civilians) who ended up being turned into husks.

Oh no arguments here they're horrible human beings, but if you play a Renegade Ruthless Shep he's not much better.

stofsk wrote...

All in all, pretty damn villainous to me. For a pro-human organisation, they sure kill a lot of humans.

 
Well you know what they say about making an omlette.

stofsk wrote...

Shepard is, after all, one man. There's a limit to how much damage one man can do. When you have an organisation behind you, the potential to do damage increases exponentially.

Making it all the more remarkable that they've done so little damage.  How many colonists were turned to husks by Cerberus 20, 30?  Insignificant even in regards to Terra Nova's population of 4 million.  Tragic yes but all for the cause.  They can't experiment on aliens to see how to improve humans they need to know how humans react and respond to treatments and trauma's in order to create their super-soldier, for humanity.  Their methods are questionable but it's all for the good of humanity.  A few humans die now to ensure that no human in the future will ever live under alien oppression.

[Marioninja1]

I hope you can go the 'blow-you-up' route if you're a Paragon, 'kill-your-leader-and-rule-with-Miranda-as-my-sexy-second-in-command-girl-friend' for Renegade. If that happens, I will become a Renegade.

[Willowhugger]

With the new trailer that reveals that Williams is taken by the Collectors on the colony that Shepard visits. Do you think that the Illusive Man arranged for her to be assigned to a colony posting (a dead end assignment) solely so the Collectors would take her?



Ditto, presumably Kaidan?



It seems like a good way to provide Shepard a personal incentive.

[DeathCultArm]

Cheap..but it will provide more determination. I'm stil not sold on the collectors being the "bad" guy though.

And I love, to love cerberus.

Modifié par DeathCultArm, 18 janvier 2010 - 08:24 .

[Decho the Dolphin]

I hated Cerberus in the first game and will be looking for any opportunity to stab them repeatedly in the back and then the face. Seriously, they made a mistake with Kahoku, that ticked me off.

[Zulu_DFA]

Decho the Dolphin wrote...

I hated Cerberus in the first game and will be looking for any opportunity to stab them repeatedly in the back and then the face. Seriously, they made a mistake with Kahoku, that ticked me off.

It was Kahoku who made a mistake. Stupid paragon.

Nobody's messing with TIM. Nobody!

[Peuhkis]

I am very interested in Cerberus. And i am pro-human, yes i dont want to have any galactic alien species ruling over us, humans, who should be running the galactic society. So my renegade pro-human shepard will see what TIM has to offer, and of course miranda intriques me to to the depths of the world. ps. if jacob gets between miranda and my shepard he's a goner.

Modifié par Peuhkis, 18 janvier 2010 - 09:31 .

[RiouHotaru]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Decho the Dolphin wrote...

I hated Cerberus in the first game and will be looking for any opportunity to stab them repeatedly in the back and then the face. Seriously, they made a mistake with Kahoku, that ticked me off.

It was Kahoku who made a mistake. Stupid paragon.

Nobody's messing with TIM. Nobody!

Mph.  We'll see.  His intentions do NOT justify the means.

[Birdman117]

I always liked Cerberus.



They shared a "means justify the ends" belief with my Shepard.

[Dzikv]

I like Cerberus. They don't bother with laws or morality to further their goals. Digging deep into scientific taboos. Experimenting with forbidden technology in the shadows.



Such organisations are needed. Even the Council knew that when they created the Spectres. People outside the boundaries of law.



I'm glad they play a big role in ME2. And i have allot of faith in Bioware to show all sides of such organisations actions and consequence.

[1Parmenides]

Anyone know if you Mass effect 1 dealings with Cerberus will affect ME2?

[Medhia Nox]

I like to blow up Cerberus labs. Blow away Cerberus scientists..



Can't wait to pluck out the Illusive Man's sparkling blue eyes.. and feed them to him.



Long Live Humanity - you psychopath.

[Vamp44]

I like Cerberus. That is all.

[Jimbe2693]

They killed Kahoku, the man who gave me a bromantic handshake and congratulated me on being a spectre.

and when I hear 'pro-human' I immediately think: Terra Firma. I don't like xenophobes.



I hope we get the option to put these guys out of business...

[Biotic_Warlock]

Message Deleted. Self Skeptical of spoilerness.
I like the logo.

Modifié par Biotic_Warlock, 20 février 2010 - 06:28 .

[Landline]

The Illusive Man is a business man, I don't see him as the type of person who would be evil just for evils sake.