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#251
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Human hookers?

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Sign me up!  Except fot the part about the hookers, this new council should be free of Asari.

Asari do seem to have a near-monopoly on the sex industry, but I think we'll be able to find enough humans to get by.

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Steelcan wrote...

Batarian attacks
Terminus systems uniting to drive them human colonies out
Not doing anything about Saren and the geth
Collector abductions ignored


All of those are internal Systems Alliance issues. You do realize this, yes?

If the Systems Alliance wanted the protection of the Citadel fleets they should have done what the volus did and voluntarily join the Turian Hierarchy.

Then they would be entitled to protection - as it stands, batarians are not a Citadel species and any conflict between the batarians and humanity is strictly a matter for those two species.

Are you seriously suggesting that the Citadel Council should directly interfere in everything that humanity does?

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"The cruel and unfortunate truth" speech from Tevos.


She's right. The truth hurts, but she's still right. There's **** all that the Council can do about the Reapers on Earth, so the best strategic move is to consolidate their own forces while the Reapers harvest Earth.

Garrus says it best; "Ten billion die over here, so twenty billion can live over there."

War is an economic struggle - Earth is a fairly low-population planet compared to other Citadel homeworlds, and it's already fallen by the time you reach the Citadel. Nothing would be gained from trying to retake it by force.

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The Batarians launcehed terrorist attacks on the Council races before humanity emerged, they shifted to humanity afterwards. The Council was simply looking out for themselves at the expense of humanity.

The Terminus systems do not border Asari or Salarian space, try again. And the Alliance has a history of leaving Traverse colonies, which are under their jurisdiction hanging as well, Feros ring a bell? They also refused any help to Shepard beyond symbolic offers, no real aid.

Funny, I think the same things could be applied to Thessia, but I doubt she would have been so happy about it. Easy to say when your world is not burning.

They let a synthetic army have free run, protected Saren until they faced with insurmountable evidence. They sent in STG teams without adequate means of communication.

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HellbirdIV wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Batarian attacks
Terminus systems uniting to drive them human colonies out
Not doing anything about Saren and the geth
Collector abductions ignored


All of those are internal Systems Alliance issues. You do realize this, yes?

If the Systems Alliance wanted the protection of the Citadel fleets they should have done what the volus did and voluntarily join the Turian Hierarchy.

Then they would be entitled to protection - as it stands, batarians are not a Citadel species and any conflict between the batarians and humanity is strictly a matter for those two species.

Are you seriously suggesting that the Citadel Council should directly interfere in everything that humanity does?

Steelcan wrote...

"The cruel and unfortunate truth" speech from Tevos.


She's right. The truth hurts, but she's still right. There's **** all that the Council can do about the Reapers on Earth, so the best strategic move is to consolidate their own forces while the Reapers harvest Earth.

Garrus says it best; "Ten billion die over here, so twenty billion can live over there."

War is an economic struggle - Earth is a fairly low-population planet compared to other Citadel homeworlds, and it's already fallen by the time you reach the Citadel. Nothing would be gained from trying to retake it by force.

Earth has a higher population than Thessia try again

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Steelcan wrote...
The Terminus systems do not border Asari or Salarian space


Yes they do. Ilium is in the Terminus Systems, just outside asari space.

The rest of your post is not worth addressing, it's the same prejudiced racist rhetoric repeated ad nauseum.

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HellbirdIV wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
The Terminus systems do not border Asari or Salarian space


Yes they do. Ilium is in the Terminus Systems, just outside asari space.

The rest of your post is not worth addressing, it's the same prejudiced racist rhetoric repeated ad nauseum.

No it's not, your just bias. He listed in-game proof. Not his fault you're trying to use headcanon.

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HellbirdIV wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
The Terminus systems do not border Asari or Salarian space


Yes they do. Ilium is in the Terminus Systems, just outside asari space.

The rest of your post is not worth addressing, it's the same prejudiced racist rhetoric repeated ad nauseum.

Do I need to show you a map of the galaxy?  The batarians are on the other side of the galaxy from Illium.

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Batarian space is not the Terminus Systems. Kar'shan is actually within the zone designated as "Systems Alliance Space".

Modifié par HellbirdIV, 05 août 2013 - 01:55 .


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Mr.House wrote...

HellbirdIV wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
The Terminus systems do not border Asari or Salarian space


Yes they do. Ilium is in the Terminus Systems, just outside asari space.

The rest of your post is not worth addressing, it's the same prejudiced racist rhetoric repeated ad nauseum.

No it's not, your just bias. He listed in-game proof. Not his fault you're trying to use headcanon.


What ingame proof? We know there are asari colonies in the terminus systems. Illium and Esan for example.

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HellbirdIV wrote...

Batarian space is not the Terminus Systems.

Batarian space is still a threat. Humanity has two threats they have to deal with.

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HellbirdIV wrote...

Batarian space is not the Terminus Systems.

ANd technically if you look at the ME3 MP map the area where Illium is classified as the Traverse.

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Barquiel wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

HellbirdIV wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
The Terminus systems do not border Asari or Salarian space


Yes they do. Ilium is in the Terminus Systems, just outside asari space.

The rest of your post is not worth addressing, it's the same prejudiced racist rhetoric repeated ad nauseum.

No it's not, your just bias. He listed in-game proof. Not his fault you're trying to use headcanon.


What ingame proof? We know there are asari colonies in the terminus systems. Illium and Esan for example.

The asari also have turian space near for help. Look at the map. Humanity is pretty much by themself between batarian and terminus space. They have more crap to deal with then any other council race.

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Barquiel wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

HellbirdIV wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
The Terminus systems do not border Asari or Salarian space


Yes they do. Ilium is in the Terminus Systems, just outside asari space.

The rest of your post is not worth addressing, it's the same prejudiced racist rhetoric repeated ad nauseum.

No it's not, your just bias. He listed in-game proof. Not his fault you're trying to use headcanon.


What ingame proof? We know there are asari colonies in the terminus systems. Illium and Esan for example.

Look at the map i posted, they technically fall into Traverse territory

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

in it for the lolz wrote...

Human hookers?

justafan wrote...

Sign me up!  Except fot the part about the hookers, this new council should be free of Asari.

Asari do seem to have a near-monopoly on the sex industry, but I think we'll be able to find enough humans to get by.


Well, once the Quarians get their immune system fixed....

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Necanor wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

in it for the lolz wrote...

Human hookers?

justafan wrote...

Sign me up!  Except fot the part about the hookers, this new council should be free of Asari.

Asari do seem to have a near-monopoly on the sex industry, but I think we'll be able to find enough humans to get by.


Well, once the Quarians get their immune system fixed....

Last thing we need is more tin cans running amok.

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Mr.House wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

HellbirdIV wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
The Terminus systems do not border Asari or Salarian space


Yes they do. Ilium is in the Terminus Systems, just outside asari space.

The rest of your post is not worth addressing, it's the same prejudiced racist rhetoric repeated ad nauseum.

No it's not, your just bias. He listed in-game proof. Not his fault you're trying to use headcanon.


What ingame proof? We know there are asari colonies in the terminus systems. Illium and Esan for example.

The asari also have turian space near for help. Look at the map. Humanity is pretty much by themself between batarian and terminus space. They have more crap to deal with then any other council race.


My point was that the council has never helped colonies that were not within council space. They're not biased against humans. The colonies in the Terminus systems are independant and not part of Council space, not even part of the Alliance. The Alliance/Council did not know what was going on and there was no target since nobody knew where the Collectors lived. So what should the council have done?

Modifié par Barquiel, 05 août 2013 - 02:07 .


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Barquiel wrote...

My point was that the council has never helped colonies that were not within council space. They're not biased against humans. The colonies in the Terminus systems are independant and not part of Council space, not even part of the Alliance. The Alliance did not know what was going on and there was no target since nobody knew where the Collectors lived. So what should the council have done?

They forced the Alliance to settle the area, and offer no help when trouble is encountered.  The Alliance obviously has interests there since they bothered to send guns to some colonies and soldiers as well, albiet very very few.  SO the Alliance does get involved in the Terminus, even if the colonists object.

Also you made a conjecture.  We don't know what the Council would do if an asari colony was attacked instead of Eden Prime (but I'm guessing a fleet would be involved)

Modifié par Steelcan, 05 août 2013 - 02:10 .


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in it for the lolz wrote...

Necanor wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

in it for the lolz wrote...
Human hookers?

justafan wrote...
Sign me up!  Except fot the part about the hookers, this new council should be free of Asari.

Asari do seem to have a near-monopoly on the sex industry, but I think we'll be able to find enough humans to get by.


Well, once the Quarians get their immune system fixed....

Last thing we need is more tin cans running amok.

Tincans? Quarians are just glowy eyed, bent legged, pretty humans.

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Necanor wrote...

in it for the lolz wrote...

Necanor wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

in it for the lolz wrote...
Human hookers?

justafan wrote...
Sign me up!  Except fot the part about the hookers, this new council should be free of Asari.

Asari do seem to have a near-monopoly on the sex industry, but I think we'll be able to find enough humans to get by.


Well, once the Quarians get their immune system fixed....

Last thing we need is more tin cans running amok.

Tincans? Quarians are just glowy eyed, bent legged, pretty humans.

Where ever Quarians go, you can bet they'll start making killer tin cans.

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in it for the lolz wrote...

Necanor wrote...

in it for the lolz wrote...

Necanor wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

in it for the lolz wrote...
Human hookers?

justafan wrote...
Sign me up!  Except fot the part about the hookers, this new council should be free of Asari.

Asari do seem to have a near-monopoly on the sex industry, but I think we'll be able to find enough humans to get by.

Well, once the Quarians get their immune system fixed....

Last thing we need is more tin cans running amok.

Tincans? Quarians are just glowy eyed, bent legged, pretty humans.

Where ever Quarians go, you can bet they'll start making killer tin cans.

I think they've learned their lesson, Xen will be dealt with...

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I think they've learned their lesson, Xen will be dealt with...

They better. I don't want no killer tin cans killing my hos!

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in it for the lolz wrote...

Necanor wrote...

I think they've learned their lesson, Xen will be dealt with...

They better. I don't want no killer tin cans killing my hos!


I agree. So Quarian hos? 

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Necanor wrote...

in it for the lolz wrote...

Necanor wrote...

I think they've learned their lesson, Xen will be dealt with...

They better. I don't want no killer tin cans killing my hos!


I agree. So Quarian hos? 

O.k. but they better behave themselfs.

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in it for the lolz wrote...

Necanor wrote...

in it for the lolz wrote...

Necanor wrote...

I think they've learned their lesson, Xen will be dealt with...

They better. I don't want no killer tin cans killing my hos!


I agree. So Quarian hos? 

O.k. but they better behave themselfs.


:lol:Nice

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Steelcan wrote...

We don't know what the Council would do if an asari colony was attacked instead of Eden Prime (but I'm guessing a fleet would be involved)


Y'know, the Alliance has a pretty decent sized fleet of its own. I imagine if an asari colony was attacked, the asari military would respond. Why should the asari send their fleets to do the Systems Alliance fleet's job?

As I said, if the Systems Alliance wanted the Council to protect them militarily they should have become a protectorate under the Turian Hierarchy.