Steelcan wrote...
MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...
Did I say the Geth ever outnumbered the Quarians at all?
You're making a definist fallacy: You're saying that since the Quarians did indeed attack the Geth first, it would be logical to assume that the Geth would counter-attack. It's heavily implied in the game that this is not the case.
The Geth took the Quarians completely by surprise. Why? Because the Quarians weren't expecting the Geth to actually stand up and take up arms against them. That's how they took the Quarians by surprise.
Surprise is the single most effective tactical advantage to war, and strategic if you can achieve it.
And I believe that the zerg rush tactic worked. Speaking from experience of military tactics, zerg-rushing the enemy is probably the single-most effective tactic to use when you take an enemy by surprise. Surprise by overwhelming assault works wonders. It worked at Pearl Harbor. It worked at the Philippines, and Singapore, and Guam, and the Mariana's, and dozens of other locales in the South Pacific when the Japanese started their fight. It had devastating effects during the Tet Offensive. It certainly worked during the Winter of 1950 when the Chinese zerg-rushed the U.N. Forces near the Chosin Reservoir in Korea. Networked attacks and counter-strikes by the Geth would be effective, but they wouldn't have the sudden, chaotic effect that a zerg-rush or blitzkrieg might.
1. yes, you said they had numbers on their side, implying a numbers advantage through outnumbering the quarians.
Irrelevant point. Let's put it this way. The numbers had to have been enough for the Geth to be able to have the effect that they did against the Geth, combined with the element of surprise.
2. You cannot be saying the geth did not counter attack? the geth counter attacked, and drove the quarians off of their worlds.
That's not what I'm saying at all.
What I'm saying is that the Quarians
did not expect the counter-attack to happen. They
did not expect the Geth to stand up against them.
3. the quarians knew some geth would resist, Tali talks about this in ME1, they hoped the majority would not be more than simple machines, implying they knew some would fight back.
That's not evidence. That's a contextomy and misinterpretation... Or you're grasping at straws by trying to get this argument past me, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
What Tali was saying was that the majority of the Geth at the time were simple machines. The minority were more complex machines with different capabilities and higher functions.
That does not imply that the Quarians were actually aware of the true intelligence of any of the Geth, much less aware of the possibility of the Geth retaliating for attacks against them.
4. No argument there, but I still don't see the feasibility of such tactics resulting in such massive casualties so quickly.
When such tactics are used against a heavily populated urban center for example, like in Manilla in 1941-42 or in Kiev, or Poland, or Leningrad, or Stalingrad, this is actually to be expected. It's also a testament to the strength of the Geth to be able to pull that off as fast as they did. And I'm not even delving into how synthetic nature would give them an advantage.
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