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[snootz]

CrimsonN7 wrote...


I always thought the Claymore was over-rated myself.

 

Calling it **** is an extreme overexaggeration on my part but seriously its not THAT good even with reload cancelling i prefer wraith.. the damage isn't massively more either

[Dunvi]

CrimsonN7 wrote...

snootz wrote...

I do worry though people think Claymore is god.. but wraith and reegar take a dump on that peice of **** so who knows how honest BSN is when it comes to this stuff

I always thought the Claymore was over-rated myself.

claymoar is best
see?

[Dunvi]

snootz wrote...

bgsam1990 wrote...

Claymore is not a piece of ****. It is a godly weapon and deserves the respect it gets IMO. Wraith and reegar are good too but Claymore is Claymore!

 

Piranha is better then it too 

Insert deal with it gif here

by strict DPS? yes. by a more holistic analysis? not necessarily.

[Alijah Green]

Just goes to show why BSN member really suck ass. OP just needs a video destroying the scoreboard and everyone will praise your opinion

[Chealec]

UEG Donkey wrote...

Cons: Very Slow

The Batarian soldier is superior in every way. Prove me wrong

Where does this random myth come from?! He _might_ be a squidge slower than the Batarian but he's by no means slow... unless I always play with people who's connection is so bad it seems like they're running through treacle.

Ballistic Blades doesn't synergise as well with Inferno Grenades, or Incendiary ammo, as Carnage.

I've only done one ME3 video but it's a U/U/G PuG Kroldier and I feel like I'm pimping it posting a link in someone else's thread but I AM KROGAN!! (or something)

Modifié par Chealec, 02 août 2013 - 09:05 .

[TheNightSlasher]

snootz wrote...

bgsam1990 wrote...

Claymore is not a piece of ****. It is a godly weapon and deserves the respect it gets IMO. Wraith and reegar are good too but Claymore is Claymore!

 

Piranha is better then it too 

Insert deal with it gif here

Its all good, I don't care - different ppl have different opinions. But nevertheless, my response was to you calling Claymore a piece of ****. It is still a beast of a weapon and fits the bill perfectly for many characters.  

[Tokenusername]

Chealec wrote...

UEG Donkey wrote...

Cons: Very Slow

The Batarian soldier is superior in every way. Prove me wrong

Where does this random myth come from?! He _might_ be a squidge slower than the Batarian but he's by no means slow... unless I always play with people who's connection is so bad it seems like they're running through treacle.

Ballistic Blades doesn't synergise as well with Inferno Grenades, or Incendiary ammo, as Carnage.

I've only done one ME3 video but it's a U/U/G PuG Kroldier and I feel like I'm pimping it posting a link in someone else's thread but I AM KROGAN!! (or something)

Carnage relies on other powers to be effective. Ballistic Blades is a pretty cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything.

[Dunvi]

Chealec wrote...

Where does this random myth come from?! He _might_ be a squidge slower than the Batarian but he's by no means slow... unless I always play with people who's connection is so bad it seems like they're running through treacle.

Batarians have a boosted storm speed and acceleration rate.

Ballistic Blades doesn't synergise as well with Inferno Grenades, or Incendiary ammo, as Carnage.

On the contrary, since Carnage will detonate inferno grenades and incendiary ammo, it will cut the potential DPS of their DOT and potential ammo glitching. Also, BB has CC.

I've only done one ME3 video but it's a U/U/G PuG Kroldier and I feel like I'm pimping it posting a link in someone else's thread but I AM KROGAN!! (or something)

so you know how to play a kroldier really well. coolstorybro. now learn to do the same with the batarian, and you will realize he really is better in basically every way.

[Chealec]

Tokenusername wrote...

Chealec wrote...

UEG Donkey wrote...

Cons: Very Slow

The Batarian soldier is superior in every way. Prove me wrong

Where does this random myth come from?! He _might_ be a squidge slower than the Batarian but he's by no means slow... unless I always play with people who's connection is so bad it seems like they're running through treacle.

Ballistic Blades doesn't synergise as well with Inferno Grenades, or Incendiary ammo, as Carnage.

I've only done one ME3 video but it's a U/U/G PuG Kroldier and I feel like I'm pimping it posting a link in someone else's thread but I AM KROGAN!! (or something)

Carnage relies on other powers to be effective. Ballistic Blades is a pretty cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything.

Ye-es but the best power to put Carnage with is probably Inferno Grenades... so yeah, Ballistic Blades IS a better stand alone power, but I don't think it's as useful as Carnage when combined with Inferno Grenades. It's good on the Vorcha Soldier too with Flamer, as long as you remember to cancel the Flamer almost instantly so  you've got practically no CD for Carnage.

[didacuscarr]

This thread is making me want to kill more than reapers now... I don't even...

[Kalas Magnus]

hostaman wrote...

Nowhere near the top 3. Not even the top 10

LOL.You are doing it wrong.

[SilentStep79]

no.

[Miniditka77]

UEG Donkey wrote...

Cons: Very Slow

The Batarian soldier is superior in every way. Prove me wrong

I prefer the Batarian too, but he can't take as much abuse and can't do as much damage to armor as the Krogan.  Plus, Fortification >> Blade Armor.  I think the Batarian is better, but it's definitely not superior in every way.

Modifié par Miniditka77, 02 août 2013 - 09:19 .

[1badmage]

So why does the Batarian always yell out "Krogan!" when his health is low? I've always thought that was funny.

[MindAssassin]

I find he's one of my best anti-armor kits. I build him full power damage through passives and up to the power damage rank in fortification, max out inferno grenades for damage and then carnage as well. Whatever's left goes to boost shields. Using adrenaline mod is a must when the kit has no dodge. Acolyte the barriers off if fighting a banshee, throw a grenade, and carnage to detonate, immolating all the things in righteous fire. I wouldn't use it against anything except reapers though.

[RedJohn]

these people really don't know anything about this game, please people learn to play! :'(

[hostaman]

Kalas Magnus wrote...

hostaman wrote...

Nowhere near the top 3. Not even the top 10

LOL.You are doing it wrong.

LOL a pointless statement!

[Chealec]

Dunvi wrote...

Chealec wrote...

Where does this random myth come from?! He _might_ be a squidge slower than the Batarian but he's by no means slow... unless I always play with people who's connection is so bad it seems like they're running through treacle.

Batarians have a boosted storm speed and acceleration rate.

Ballistic Blades doesn't synergise as well with Inferno Grenades, or Incendiary ammo, as Carnage.

On the contrary, since Carnage will detonate inferno grenades and incendiary ammo, it will cut the potential DPS of their DOT and potential ammo glitching. Also, BB has CC.

I've only done one ME3 video but it's a U/U/G PuG Kroldier and I feel like I'm pimping it posting a link in someone else's thread but I AM KROGAN!! (or something)

so you know how to play a kroldier really well. coolstorybro. now learn to do the same with the batarian, and you will realize he really is better in basically every way.

You're making the assumption that I'm not at least as good with the BatSol... I've completed Bloodpack Mastery 5 times so I've played both a fair bit. I'd still argue that the Kroldier is better vs Reapers and the BatSol Cerberus, they're both pretty much equal against Collectors or Geth. Basically, specced right with the right guns/equipment the Kroldier is an armour destroying specialist, the BatSol is more versatile.

As for crowd control... I chuck a Striker + Incendiary rounds on the Krolder - the gun is really just for pasting fire effects, fire explosion all the things.

As for DoT - it's not that big a deal on gold level where I play mostly (the occassional Platinum game but I prefer gold, my manifest is maxed, I don't need the credits), there are very few things that it's worth whittling away with DoT on gold, mostly you just exploderise them and jobsagoodun. The exception really being wave 4 or 6 (and above) Reaper spawns where you can get a couple of Brutes and  a couple of Ravagers with 2 grenades and walk away hoping to find the next spawn at about the time that one dies.

I'm not going to argue that the Kroldier is in the top 3 because he's not (especially if you're hosting and can safely use more high risk/high reward characters) ... but he's not particularly slow, slower than Batarians and Drell definitely, but he'sstill sort of mid-range speed. And he's not particuarly worse than the BatSol - and if I remember correctly, Power Synergy on Fortification boosts Inferno Grenade damage as well as Carnage.

Modifié par Chealec, 02 août 2013 - 09:43 .

[IamZAE]

If you ARE using inciendiery ammo coupled with any high rate of fire weapon, then he is EASILY top 3 along with the batarian soldier, and GI.

so my top 3 would be Krogan Solder, Batarian Soldier, then GI.

The inferno grenade + inciendiaery ammo combo allows him to murder EVERYHING harder AND faster then a GI, (GI hunter mode makes it very very close however, especially speed and vision specced)

[SvM madman]

me0120 wrote...

Cons: It's Krogan.

This makes it one of the worst 5 im afriad

[me0120]

SvM madman wrote...

me0120 wrote...

Cons: It's Krogan.

This makes it one of the worst 5 im afriad

Agreed. The only worse character I can think is the Vorcha Hunter.

[ManRightChea]

Batarian Soldier is good, but I would rate the Krogan higher. With the proper build the KS is a total beast. The Bat Soldier is good too, but since he can't create fire explosions the way the KS can, he loses. KS is tankier, gets a power damage buff from Fortification and can create FE's. Batarian soldier pretty much just depends on nades alone for most of his damage, ballistics do damage too but do not create an FE with the nades.

[Chealec]

ManRightChea wrote...

Batarian Soldier is good, but I would rate the Krogan higher. With the proper build the KS is a total beast. The Bat Soldier is good too, but since he can't create fire explosions the way the KS can, he loses. KS is tankier, gets a power damage buff from Fortification and can create FE's. Batarian soldier pretty much just depends on nades alone for most of his damage, ballistics do damage too but do not create an FE with the nades.

You can quite easily make the BatSol tankier than the Kroldier - it comes down to the shield regen buffs in Blade Armour. If you put a shield booster on him rather than a cyclonic he might have less total shields than the Kroldier but you can get them regenerating in under a second. This means you very rarely have to take cover; Scions/Banshee warp balls or Atlas rockets, DoT attacks basically, are about the only things that can force a BatSol/BatSent to take cover to regen shields.

Nothing can force a BatGuard into cover... nothing.

[IamZAE]

Chealec wrote...

ManRightChea wrote...

Batarian Soldier is good, but I would rate the Krogan higher. With the proper build the KS is a total beast. The Bat Soldier is good too, but since he can't create fire explosions the way the KS can, he loses. KS is tankier, gets a power damage buff from Fortification and can create FE's. Batarian soldier pretty much just depends on nades alone for most of his damage, ballistics do damage too but do not create an FE with the nades.

You can quite easily make the BatSol tankier than the Kroldier - it comes down to the shield regen buffs in Blade Armour. If you put a shield booster on him rather than a cyclonic he might have less total shields than the Kroldier but you can get them regenerating in under a second. This means you very rarely have to take cover; Scions/Banshee warp balls or Atlas rockets, DoT attacks basically, are about the only things that can force a BatSol/BatSent to take cover to regen shields.

Nothing can force a BatGuard into cover... nothing.

LOL i want whatever ur smokin, batarian solider is easily just as good as the krogan soldier, but not because of tankiness comparissons, and shield regen is great dont get me wrong, but it still doesnt hold a candle to cyclonics on kits with high shields AND Damage Reduction Armor abilities.

edit: could you explain in detail please how a batarian can be tankier then a krogan, enlighten me please

Modifié par IamZAE, 02 août 2013 - 10:04 .

[ManRightChea]

Chealec wrote...

ManRightChea wrote...

Batarian Soldier is good, but I would rate the Krogan higher. With the proper build the KS is a total beast. The Bat Soldier is good too, but since he can't create fire explosions the way the KS can, he loses. KS is tankier, gets a power damage buff from Fortification and can create FE's. Batarian soldier pretty much just depends on nades alone for most of his damage, ballistics do damage too but do not create an FE with the nades.

You can quite easily make the BatSol tankier than the Kroldier - it comes down to the shield regen buffs in Blade Armour. If you put a shield booster on him rather than a cyclonic he might have less total shields than the Kroldier but you can get them regenerating in under a second. This means you very rarely have to take cover; Scions/Banshee warp balls or Atlas rockets, DoT attacks basically, are about the only things that can force a BatSol/BatSent to take cover to regen shields.

Nothing can force a BatGuard into cover... nothing.

Tankiness in that regard to survivability is irrelevant for a skilled player. Whether the Bat is in  cover or not still does not make up for the crowd killing ability of the Krogan. If BB's combined with his nades than I could see the argument, the fact that they do not makes the Krogan more lethal. Bat has more speed, that's mainly it. BB's may offer crowd control, but while the Bat is still fighting the group his has bladed, the Krogan has already killed the group with an FE and moved on.

Modifié par ManRightChea, 02 août 2013 - 10:04 .