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[Cyonan]

Not only was it never nerfed, it was actually buffed.

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Element 0 wrote...

So why the Talon is so good?

It's lighter than the Wraith or Paladin. It has more shots, it has decent range, it has good rate of fire, it has modifiers vs shields and barriers and it can put on a 40% damage mod over Wraith.

Why it was never nerfed?

You forgot to mention that it blows through shieldgate.

[d_nought]

Element 0 wrote...

So why the Talon is so good?

It's lighter than the Wraith or Paladin. It has more shots, it has decent range, it has good rate of fire, it has modifiers vs shields and barriers and it can put on a 40% damage mod over Wraith.

Why it was never nerfed?

It was never nerfed because it wasn't really very good from the start. But it got gradually buffed and went a little over. See also - Drell Vanguard, N7 Hurricane, etc.

Modifié par d_nought, 02 août 2013 - 08:22 .

[SiMpLyNoir]

Cyonan wrote...

Not only was it never nerfed, it was actually buffed.

And that wasn't the only good gun that got better. The BW, Javelin, etc. got final buffs before the balance changes ended which improved already great guns.

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Element 0 wrote...

d_nought wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

So why the Talon is so good?

It's lighter than the Wraith or Paladin. It has more shots, it has decent range, it has good rate of fire, it has modifiers vs shields and barriers and it can put on a 40% damage mod over Wraith.

Why it was never nerfed?

It was never nerfed because it wasn't really very good from the start. But it got gradually buffed and went a little over. See also - Drell Vanguard, N7 Hurricane, etc.

 

I don't think Drell Vanguard is OP without Grenade Capacity (that is OP). Hurricane is definetely over the top though. 

So the concesus is that Talon is the best shotgun and the best pistol in one? 

reegar

[landylan]

Element 0 wrote...

So why the Talon is so good?

It's lighter than the Wraith or Paladin. It has more shots, it has decent range, it has good rate of fire, it has modifiers vs shields and barriers and it can put on a 40% damage mod over Wraith.

Why it was never nerfed?

Because it's UR. Wraith gets the piercing+damage and accuracy mod though.

[d_nought]

Element 0 wrote...

d_nought wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

So why the Talon is so good?

It's lighter than the Wraith or Paladin. It has more shots, it has decent range, it has good rate of fire, it has modifiers vs shields and barriers and it can put on a 40% damage mod over Wraith.

Why it was never nerfed?

It was never nerfed because it wasn't really very good from the start. But it got gradually buffed and went a little over. See also - Drell Vanguard, N7 Hurricane, etc.

 

I don't think Drell Vanguard is OP without Grenade Capacity (that is OP). Hurricane is definetely over the top though. 

So the concesus is that Talon is the best shotgun and the best pistol in one? 

Well, GC V is pretty much a given. I don't care too much though, grenades aren't AS good on Platinum (inb4 Platinum and balance).

The Talon is to guns what the GI is to classes: it's not necessarily the best at everything, but it is good at anything. Incidentally, Talon GI is one of the top 5 class weapon combos in the game.

Modifié par d_nought, 02 août 2013 - 08:37 .

[ISHYGDDT]

Cyonan wrote...
Reegar Carbine

Maybe.  

[Kenadian]

Cyonan wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

I don't know if I consider the Talon the most OP weapon, but I literally can't think of another that's more OP at the moment.

Reegar Carbine

I nerfed the damage by 50% on my host and it still annihilates everything but armour. It's actually kind of balanced for me now(mostly because it does very little to armour even with Incendiary Rounds IV).

Figure out a way to remove those stupid negative modifiers on Bat and Krogan melee and you would be mah saviour.

[RedJohn]

Element 0 wrote...

OMG! I have to wait a week to create a poll? I already waited a day to be able to post.

Air Quotes pls

[Dunvi]

Kenadian wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

I don't know if I consider the Talon the most OP weapon, but I literally can't think of another that's more OP at the moment.

Reegar Carbine

I nerfed the damage by 50% on my host and it still annihilates everything but armour. It's actually kind of balanced for me now(mostly because it does very little to armour even with Incendiary Rounds IV).

Figure out a way to remove those stupid negative modifiers on Bat and Krogan melee and you would be mah saviour.

i can do it
but i hate hex editing

[Cyonan]

SiMpLyNoir wrote...

And that wasn't the only good gun that got better. The BW, Javelin, etc. got final buffs before the balance changes ended which improved already great guns.

Most of the Sniper Rifles were not really great guns for non Infiltrators.

Kenadian wrote...

Figure out a way to remove those stupid negative modifiers on Bat and Krogan melee and you would be mah saviour.

I was not aware of any negative modifiers on Batarian or Krogan Melee.

Though it does seem as though I improved the hit detection of Poison Strike a bit.

[Kenadian]

Cyonan wrote...

SiMpLyNoir wrote...

And that wasn't the only good gun that got better. The BW, Javelin, etc. got final buffs before the balance changes ended which improved already great guns.

Most of the Sniper Rifles were not really great guns for non Infiltrators.

Kenadian wrote...

Figure out a way to remove those stupid negative modifiers on Bat and Krogan melee and you would be mah saviour.

I was not aware of any negative modifiers on Batarian or Krogan Melee.

Though it does seem as though I improved the hit detection of Poison Strike a bit.

The 75% modifier (-25%) on armour for their heavy (maybe light as well?) melees.

Also, DUNVIIIII do iiiiit. Please? Many croissants can be had

[Dunvi]

Cyonan wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

Figure out a way to remove those stupid negative modifiers on Bat and Krogan melee and you would be mah saviour.

I was not aware of any negative modifiers on Batarian or Krogan Melee.

Though it does seem as though I improved the hit detection of Poison Strike a bit.

nah i know what he means, the 0.75 modifier on armor damage.

[Shampoohorn]

landylan wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

So why the Talon is so good?

It's lighter than the Wraith or Paladin. It has more shots, it has decent range, it has good rate of fire, it has modifiers vs shields and barriers and it can put on a 40% damage mod over Wraith.

Why it was never nerfed?

Because it's UR. Wraith gets the piercing+damage and accuracy mod though.

I believe the pistol scope gives the Talon an accuracy boost that's better than smart choke.  I could be wrong though, as those threads may have been based on wall shoot which apparently isn't reflective of in game mechanics.

I rarely use the scope but it seemed to reduce the pellet spread when I equipped it and aimed for head.  So that's one less thing that shotty's have as an advantage.

[TheNightSlasher]

Talon v Paladin - I would go with Talon.
Talon v Wraith - close but I would side with Talon again, that thing is a beast!

[Tokenusername]

Element 0 wrote...

OMG! I have to wait a week to create a poll? I already waited a day to be able to post.

Look at all these images i'm using that you can't post.
:innocent:<3:(:wizard::OB)

Modifié par Tokenusername, 02 août 2013 - 09:01 .

[Terrapin]

Talon pound for pound the best shotgun in the game. Plus you can put a power mag on it.