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[KotorEffect3]

well they got stomped out of the gate, they are still millions left but it's going to be hard for them to rebuild their civilization.

[wolfhowwl]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I didn't like how they used the race most people already hated as the one to get decimated by the Reapers. Should've been the turians or something instead.

Of course they did. This game plays it very safe sometimes.

Modifié par wolfhowwl, 03 août 2013 - 10:29 .

[Arcian]

The asari should have died first.

[Triforce Hermit]

Enough for a population to be maintained. Oh,oh, wait! This might be in future Mass Effect titles. Help the Batarians rebuild and end the grudges between them and humanity or commit genocide.

[Jorji Costava]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I didn't like how they used the race most people already hated as the one to get decimated by the Reapers. Should've been the turians or something instead.

Gotta agree with this as well. Using the Batarians as the ones to take the fall both at the beginning of ME3 and in Arrival was convenient (also, the decimation of the Batarian homeworld made the 'consequences' of Arrival even more irrelevant than they had already been). I'm reminded of a Joss Whedon talk about The Avengers where he mentions that in previous iterations of the Hulk, Bruce Banner would always begin his terrible transformation while in the presence of really mean bullies who probably deserved to get their butts kicked anyway. That's the easy way out. Joss specifically made the decision to have Hulk's first transformation endanger characters we actually cared about, which is just the better way to go IMO.

[Han Shot First]

Arcian wrote...

The asari should have died first.

You're only saying the Asari because you don't like them. In other words they might as well be the Batarians in that case, and it wouldn't make a difference.

If Bioware was going to go for shock value and annihilate a faction most people liked, the route to go would be the Turians. While the Asari might be popular overall they've still got a vocal minority that hates them. Because of Garrus, everyone's favorite bro, the Turians are near universally liked.

Of course there are exceptions, but overall the Turians are probably the fan favorite species.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Hell, have them stomp humans out the gate. Humans are everyone's favorite. They could have just zipped right over to Earth. It wasn't that far. It wasn't like humanity was going to actually build anything like ships, or stuff like that anyway. So Shepard would have been in prison for 9 to a year instead of 6 months. Big deal.

I mean did it really matter who they stomped out of the gate? I mean wouldn't it have been fun for the Butcher of Torfan to go pleading to the Batarian Hegemony for help? Now that would have been funny. I'd have loved to have seen that mission.

[Element Engine]

"Human nobility... I didn't know such a thing existed."

The Batarians rule. I agree though that it was a cop-out to make Khar'Shan ground zero for the Reapers. The Asari or the Turian homeworld, or hell EARTH would have been more powerful.

Modifié par Element Engine, 04 août 2013 - 02:16 .

[Argolas]

Concerning the question "Why the Batarians?"

I think it's because they had terrorist tendencies to begin with, so put them into a desperate situation and they will get completely out of control. It's a great setup for a Batarian subplot that unfortunately never really happened except a little sidequest.

[Argolas]

Element Engine wrote...

"Human nobility... I didn't know such a thing existed."

The Batarians rule. I agree though that it was a cop-out to make Khar'Shan ground zero for the Reapers. The Asari or the Turian homeworld, or hell EARTH would have been more powerful.

That quote is racist btw. Just saying.

[LiL Reapur]

Well they have a fleet and there are many batarians outside of kite's nest so i estimate their numbers in between 10000 - 20000 again this is a educated guess given the lack of info in game.

[SilJeff]

Maybe even less than the Drell now

[Element Engine]

Argolas wrote...

Element Engine wrote...

"Human nobility... I didn't know such a thing existed."

The Batarians rule. I agree though that it was a cop-out to make Khar'Shan ground zero for the Reapers. The Asari or the Turian homeworld, or hell EARTH would have been more powerful.

That quote is racist btw. Just saying.

I know it is. I just enjoy their distrustful nature.

[Han Shot First]

LiL Reapur wrote...

Well they have a fleet and there are many batarians outside of kite's nest so i estimate their numbers in between 10000 - 20000 again this is a educated guess given the lack of info in game.

Way too low.

Khar'Shan alone had billions of people, and it wasn't the only world settled by the Batarians. A popular misconception is that the Reapers completely annihilated the Batarian worlds they conquered, but that isn't the case. The game notes that refuges from Khar'Shan have said that, "resistance has created a bond among commoners." So like Earth, there are still people resisting the Reapers and the entire world hasn't been annihilated/processed. Another one of the Batarian planet descriptions also mentions a resistance.

The game also doesn't say the Batarians are finished. It says that the Hegemony is finished.

[KaiserShep]

It would've been nice to get at least one slide of the Batarians rebuilding if you got their fleets to join you in the end. But really, both Earth and Palaven get hit hardest aside from them, so what's the difference at that point? 

Modifié par KaiserShep, 04 août 2013 - 11:44 .

[Display Name Owner]

There should still be a fair number of them. Many were fleeing Hegemony space since before Earth was hit IIRC. Some went to the Citadel, it's likely even more went to the Terminus Systems.

I'd say there would still be millions.

And yes, it is a pity they got cast aside like that. Wasted opportunity if you ask me. I hope they play a part in the future, since apparently it's the Hegemony that's destroyed, not the people. Still, I'd have liked to explore and resolve a story with the Hegemony in person.

[Arcian]

Han Shot First wrote...

Arcian wrote...

The asari should have died first.

You're only saying the Asari because you don't like them.

No, I'm saying asari because they've had it coming since they decided to hoard important prothean technology.

[KaiserShep]

Arcian wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Arcian wrote...

The asari should have died first.

You're only saying the Asari because you don't like them.

No, I'm saying asari because they've had it coming since they decided to hoard important prothean technology.

That's not a good reason. What the players think a character or entire fictional race deserves doesn't determine what makes sense in the story. Unlike the Asari, Turians, Humans, Elcor, Volus and Salarians, the Batarians' home world exists closest to the edge of the galaxy, and its as simple as that. The most sensible race to attack first would be the Turians, since they have the strongest military force. Whether they deserve it is irrelevant, but since the reapers don't bother accessing census records this time around, they're just going to have to wing it. 

Modifié par KaiserShep, 04 août 2013 - 06:37 .

[kathic]

In Exile wrote...

Too many #renegadeshep.

This.

[thehomeworld]

None. They all died fighting my war, they've done a great service to the galaxy.

Modifié par thehomeworld, 04 août 2013 - 06:42 .

[KaiserShep]

Bray is immortal. You should know this.

[dublin omega 223]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

I'd say a good few tens of millions. Small, but not a doomed population by any means.

Agreed certainly a species not on the edge of extinction but a population that is cut down severely.

[dublin omega 223]

Arcian wrote...

The asari should have died first.

100% agree.

[Argentoid]

Not much.

[BronzTrooper]

Well, let's do the math

The total Batarian population pre-war (unknown) - total amount of Batarian casualties when the Reapers hit (again, unknown) = the amount of surviving Batarians (unknown).

There's your answer. The amount of Batarians left is: unknown!