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#1
Gkonone

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 This video says it all. The epic journey shouldn't stop after just 3 games.
I hope you reconsider Bioware, I really do.



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The Soulforged

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My feels organ just fell apart. That video was... ugh. But in a good way.

Anyway, I love Shepard just as much as the next person, but his (or her) journey has ended. It's time to let a new hero shine, no? Just look at Dragon Age.

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[Shepard]

Let me die!

So I go, pressing on through the wind and the waves
If I drown, let me go, so that you can be safe...
It don't matter if people remember name
I have lived...I have lived...
so let me die.

[/Shepard]

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Secretlyapotato

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EDIT: Nvm no spoilers. >.<

Modifié par Secretlyapotato, 04 août 2013 - 12:40 .


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What a Succulent Ass

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...Definitely read this as "Why Shepard should be black."

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What a Succulent Ass

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What in diabetes hell did I just watch. That sh*t gave me ten cavities, heart disease, and a failing pancreas.

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I love tribute videos like that.

Yet at the same time, they make me so angry at what Bioware did to the story.

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Random Jerkface wrote...

What in diabetes hell did I just watch. That sh*t gave me ten cavities, heart disease, and a failing pancreas.


Damn. I wonder if I should click the link now. :?

Modifié par StreetMagic, 04 août 2013 - 02:11 .


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StreetMagic wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

What in diabetes hell did I just watch. That sh*t gave me ten cavities, heart disease, and a failing pancreas.


Damn. I wonder if I should click the link now. :?


Go ahead.  It's an incredible tribute of what was good about ME3.

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jadewolf21 wrote...

My feels organ just fell apart. That video was... ugh. But in a good way.

Anyway, I love Shepard just as much as the next person, but his (or her) journey has ended. It's time to let a new hero shine, no? Just look at Dragon Age.

That's the point, Mass Effect is not supposed to be another Dragon Age. Mass Effect is about Shepard on his/her journey. Dragon Age on the other hand is about the world. Not the warden not Hawke but the event's that are happening around them. I think that the upcoming Mass Effect game should bring Shepard back if not, don't make another Mass Effect game, leave it as it is. Shepard's story is done, so should the series. 

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Shepard was a cool character, but his or her story is done. Honestly if they brought the character back it would only diminish him/her. Having one character keep being the hero of the hour in every crisis, would quickly get stale. Its a big universe filled with trillions of people. Surely there is room in it for more than one hero? Let this one ride off into the sunset.

And there is nothing preventing Bioware from creating a new protagonist and supporting characters that are just as interesting as those in the first three games.

Back when it was first announced that Mass Effect 2 would have a new cast of squadmates, a lot of people were angry that their favorite characters weren't coming back. People complained how the new cast would be a pale imitation. Fast forward a couple years and some of those Mass Effect 2 squadmates have just as many (or more) fans that some of the original cast.

Star Trek went through a similar thing with The Next Generation. Old school fans complained that a new cast of characters that weren't Kirk and Spock and Scotty was a terrible idea, and predicted that the new series would be horrible. Now Captain Picard and Q and Worf and Riker are just as beloved by trekkies as the characters from the original series.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 04 août 2013 - 03:51 .


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Completely agree, HSF.

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Meh, I don't care that Shepard's story has ended. I can accept that.

It's that it ended so badly that bugs me.

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You'll get another character that is a massive mary sue to satisfy your power fantasies

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I believe Bioware could pull out another good character. Shepard's journey was undeniably epic and amazing. Shepard deserves his rest, perhaps in cameos or mentions should be his only return in future games, but I feel his journey is done. I don't think I could word it better than Han Shot First above, but If Shepard were to return in full then his believability as a human would lessen and I can't imagine any story that wouldn't feel forced or "pooped out".

In short, I doubt we'd get the same Mass Effect quality without a new story, I believe if Shepard were to return in full the the quality would be that of (In my opinion) the quality of the ending, but rather 15 minutes, it'd be 30+ hours of it.

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Much like my Warden, Shepard's time is over as far as I'm concerned. And at this point, I'm hoping that ME4 takes place in a post-Shepard, Shepard-free future.

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I have faith that the next Mass Effect's protagonist will be as good as Shepard, maybe even better. The same goes for the companions: yes they won't be Garrus or Liara, but as soon as we get used to them, we'll love them just as much.

Hopefully though it won't be a DA2 compared to DA:O (as much as I liked DA2 and the Hawke character, most of the companions were less interesting than the ones in Origins)...

I'm wondering if the next installment will be the first game in a new trilogy or just a standalone title. If it's going to be a trilogy I sincerely hope Bioware takes effort in creating a main plot/outline for the entire trilogy (and a better ending). No unbeatable alien menace which requires depending on 'gods out of the machine'.

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Cornughon wrote...

I have faith that the next Mass Effect's protagonist will be as good as Shepard, maybe even better. The same goes for the companions: yes they won't be Garrus or Liara, but as soon as we get used to them, we'll love them just as much.


I dislike Garrus and Liara anyways. It'd be a plus to not have anyone like them.

Modifié par StreetMagic, 04 août 2013 - 07:42 .


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iPoohCupCakes wrote...

[...] Mass Effect is about Shepard on his/her journey. Dragon Age on the other hand is about the world. Not the warden not Hawke but the event's that are happening around them. I think that the upcoming Mass Effect game should bring Shepard back if not, don't make another Mass Effect game, leave it as it is. Shepard's story is done, so should the series. 


I have to disagree on that. The MEU that has been established already has a shi*load of lore, characters, factions etc. It's more than just some sugar on top of the cake that is Shepard's story: It's a key component. The universe CAN do without Shepard (in terms of narrative etc.), but not the other way round.

Immediately after finishing ME3 I also thought that NME without Shepard would be pointless. But there's just so much more to explore.

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I'd rather them just end the franchise, period. Not because of the ending, but because ME was Shep's story and now that's over. Yeah, there's a bazillion other things, but it was always about Shep. I just hate how pretty much any good stand alone game (or a planned trilogy in this case) gets the "oh we made a game everyone liked, lets destroy it by turning it into a franchise" treatment. I'd so much rather ME be over and see BW move on and come out with something else.

Modifié par Asch Lavigne, 04 août 2013 - 08:15 .


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I like to think that the canon Shepard is dead. The story works so much better that way. The hero sacrifices himself to save the galaxy.

Modifié par Element Engine, 04 août 2013 - 08:38 .


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Denora wrote...

I believe Bioware could pull out another good character. Shepard's journey was undeniably epic and amazing. Shepard deserves his rest, perhaps in cameos or mentions should be his only return in future games, but I feel his journey is done. I don't think I could word it better than Han Shot First above, but If Shepard were to return in full then his believability as a human would lessen and I can't imagine any story that wouldn't feel forced or "pooped out".

In short, I doubt we'd get the same Mass Effect quality without a new story, I believe if Shepard were to return in full the the quality would be that of (In my opinion) the quality of the ending, but rather 15 minutes, it'd be 30+ hours of it.


Perhaps the more long lived members of the team make a cameo (liara, wrex) and mention shepard briefly.Maybe a memorial gets made in the future, shows the date of when shepard died so that if you picked destroy you can see he/she had a full life afterward. Something as simple as that would make me happy. 

Oh and that fan vid?  :crying: damn it, pretty much summed up why we cared about shepard.

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I'm not big on protagonists we've grown to love to disappear because the company is moving in a new direction. That should tell you where I stand.

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Shepard is a great character but I wouldn't want his/her story to be dragged on longer than it needs to be. I think a new character, maybe even a new trilogy on next-gen consoles would work better.

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Nah, I love Shepard and I'd love to see him back. Are you guys honestly telling me if they made a prequel or sequel involving Shep you would be anything less than happy?

I, for one, hate the route Dragon Age has taken. I was immensely attached to my mute Warden. Then poof! He's gone. Okay, so I get this 'Hawke' guy now. Right, well, I suppose I can get used to- Poof! Gone. Then the next game starts. And I have absolutely no attachment to the character. In fact, the best bits of Dragon Age 2 were the odd snippets where I met characters who interacted with, accompanied or spoke of -MY- Warden.

And while Mass Effect is rich enough to carry on without Shepard, it just wont be the same. I don't mind if they do a few standalone games where he plays a cameo role. Or you get no more interaction than meeting a few of his companions/people mentioning him. In fact, that could only serve the strengthen the universe and make it richer. But down the line, I would love to see Shep back at the helm of ME in a style much similar to Arthur Conan Doyles Sherlock Holmes.