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[What a Succulent Ass]

Element Engine wrote...

I like to think that the canon Shepard is dead. The story works so much better that way. The hero sacrifices himself to save the galaxy.

Lord, so trashy and played and bad. Early deaths are tragic, not inspiring.

[rohanks]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Yeah, "the hero sacrifices himself for some arbitrary reason" is an overdone and generally pretty poor way to end a story.

Agreed.

Especially if it's done "for the drama" instead of as a fitting end to a character arc (and I think we can all agree that Shepard had no kind of character arc whatsoever).

IMO if you want to see a successful translation of sacrifice in contemporary story-telling as part of a characters meaningful story arc, then watch Season 5 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. 

From the first few episodes, the sacrifice that the central character would have to make in the finale is foreshadowed consistently. It's understandable. You can literally watch the last episode "The Gift" and work backwards though the season identifying events that led to the central character's decision to sacrifice herself to save the world.

And we as the audience are attempting to understand, along with the central character, what is the 'key' as well as more importantly what is Buffy's relationship to it? Her sacrifice was meaningful and in context with the steadily building tension and narrative as the immovable object collided with the irresistible force. 

And unlike Bioware's Shepard in ME3. Not part of a some last-minute, nonsensical and jarring construct. 

Someone else at Bioware certainly thought so as each animation, to me, of Shepard shooting, grasping or diving with such wanton abandon to commune with that 'space magic'  echoes that leap Buffy made.  Poignant music notwithstanding in both cases.

However her sacrifice was meaningful. She was in the right place at the right time. Had to be her.

Any organic sentient lifeform could have ascended on that platform, had the same conversation with the Catalyst and been forced to make a decision. I am not sold on Shepard sacrificing his/herself because he/she is the only one alive and 'had what it takes'. There is nothing to suggest at any point in the trilogy that Shepard has this characteristic. He/She had everything to live for. At least my Shepard did.

Modifié par rohanks, 05 août 2013 - 05:26 .

[JamesFaith]

scyphozoa wrote...

I am happy that Shep is gone and the trilogy is over. I don't hate Shep, but the perspective of being Commander Shep has run its course. I've seen as much as I wanted to from that limited perspective. I would rather see the ME universe through a radically different perspective, like non-human or non-spectre.

Exactly.

I personaly don't want another story about Shepard, but rather another story about ME universe.

[Son of Shepherd]

scyphozoa wrote...

I am happy that Shep is gone and the trilogy is over. I don't hate Shep, but the perspective of being Commander Shep has run its course. I've seen as much as I wanted to from that limited perspective. I would rather see the ME universe through a radically different perspective, like non-human or non-spectre.

+1. Be much more interesting to view humanity as a different race, and play as a council detective or a mercenary. Shep's journey is over, and so it should remain.

[Display Name Owner]

Criiiinge.

Seriously though, if you ask me, no Shepard should not be back. I liked Shepard, I liked exploring the MEverse with him, but it's time to do so from a new perspective. I for one am keen to meet the new guy. A non-human could be cool, but most likely they will be human. Nonetheless, I hope they're as different from Shepard as possible.

[Seishoujyo]

Shepard is a legend, we all love him. But now is the time to have a new character and a new crew for a new adventure.

[The PC Patriot]

Ordinarily I would be completely behind Bioware moving on from Shepard. Unfortunately because of the cack handed ending they ended my Shepard's story on a cliff hanger. It seems I will never get resolution to the cliff hanger so if the next ME does not resolve this cliff hanger then there is little point in me bothering with the next ME.

[SiberianHusk]

I like Shepard, but I think his/her time is over. It would be cool if you could unlock Sheploo face for the main character though, once you finish your first playthrough in the next ME.

[HellbirdIV]

Shepard deserves to retire to her beach home on Intai'sei with Liara.

I think saving all life in the galaxy from total annihilation not once but twice warrants retirement with full honors, no?

[10K]

IMHO, I think the entire series should just die. No more ME for me. BW just keep focused on your new IP and DA. Anything ME related just forget about it. I'm done with ME and I hope BW will be too. ME just needs to be forgotten PERIOD.

[Daniel_N7]

Shepard will be back. It's like Kirk. The series can live without him but eventually, it all keeps coming back to the iconic hero that defined it. Mark my words. It may take years, but the Commander will return, someday.

[chidingewe8036]

MASS EFFECT 4 Teaser Trailer should be this..........

The screen is dark and all the viewer can hear is heavy breathing then all of a sudden two eyes open on screen hazy, foggy, as if in a daze. The eyes look around and the viewer sees that they are being held captive somewhere unknown. Then when everything seems quite we hear Harbinger's iconic voice say "Shepard" then the screen fades back to black and a lone title comes across our screens that says 4.

Don't know about u guys but I would pee in my pants and scream like a little b i a t c h if that happened lol.

[allsevens777]

NOOOOOO MORE SHEPARD!

[chidingewe8036]

allsevens777 wrote...

NOOOOOO MORE SHEPARD!

dem fightin words!

[What a Succulent Ass]

chidingewe8036 wrote...
Don't know about u guys but I would pee in my pants and scream like a little b i a t c h if that happened lol.

That sounds like a giant doo-doo pile filled with corn nuggets.

[chidingewe8036]

MASS EFFECT 4 without Shepard, his allies, his LIs, friends, and ship would be a flop for Bioware financially as a result ME5 production and ideas would be scrapped. I hope this happens if they try and go any other route other than bringing Shepard back, but to be honest after what happened with ME3 I think ME4 or whatever they decide to call it will inevitably have mediocre sales there for scrapping future projects and decisions for the franchise, its INEVITABLE really, but it would serve them right for screwing up the so called "grand finale" deep down I don't think anyone can deny this.

I personally liked the ending with the IT inclusion minus the crucible deus ex crap, what really pissed me off with ME3 was the way they treated Shepard's supporting cast, the linear story, and......well the crucible lol.

[chidingewe8036]

Random Jerkface wrote...

chidingewe8036 wrote...
Don't know about u guys but I would pee in my pants and scream like a little b i a t c h if that happened lol.

That sounds like a giant doo-doo pile filled with corn nuggets.

I prefer a good bowl movement myself

[Han Shot First]

The hero sacrificing himself is no more overdone than the hero getting to ride off into the sunset. There are a multitude of examples of both in fiction and neither is more cliché than the other.

[chidingewe8036]

Anything Bioware comes up with that is not Shepard related will pale in comparison to what we got and what we have now, story, characters, music, everything, there is no way they could trump the original trilogy NO WAY that's all i'm sayin. The magnitude and scale of the original trilogy cannot be copied. There is no enemy greater than what Shepard faced no new story idea can change that unless Shepard returned. Playing as another character against a lesser threat would be a major downer.

Now playing as your own custom Shepard u spent hours creating against a lesser threat might be a little underwhelming but totally acceptable to the audience especially if it brought back all of our favorite companions, allies, etc.

[chidingewe8036]

so I think Bioware is between a rock and a hard place either way but if it were me i would just bring Shepard back and role with it good or bad, then and only then would i consider a different take on things. But I don't feel as though it is time to let Shepard go after what happened with ME3. Of course we want something new but it just does not feel like the time.

Now if Shepard died undeniably at the end of ME3 then yeah, but there are still to many questions. No more Master Chief, no more Master Chief, oops look what happened.