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[Hilarystamp]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Most fantasy setting give a in-lore reason for an inability to use weapons or armor. Usually because it interferes with movement or magical flow or you need a wand because reasons kinda thing. DA's reason was Circle mages weren't allowed to learn any kind of physical violence. Which made total sense. Now that the Circle's are a thing of the past I'd expect to see warrior mages.

and not just mages with changes........I'm sure there is magic out there that would give a warrior or rogue an advantage. In war time( it would make complete sense to see all this. 

[KiwiQuiche]

Hopefully mages will also stop wearing bathrobes and put on actual armour that, you know, has a chance of stopping swords.

[Hilarystamp]

KiwiQuiche wrote...

Hopefully mages will also stop wearing bathrobes and put on actual armour that, you know, has a chance of stopping swords.

     Couldn't agree more!

[TheKomandorShepard]

andy69156915 wrote...

Then let's just get rid of classes and just make you into a physical god who can do everything and anything. Much more hardcore and fun, right?

You don't have to be physical god you can choose become one of them you always can play as bard.

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 04 août 2013 - 07:22 .

[KiwiQuiche]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

andy69156915 wrote...

Then let's just get rid of classes and just make you into a physical god who can do everything and anything. Much more hardcore and fun, right?

You don't have to be physical god you can choose become one of them you always can play as bard.

The ansaam does not do battle with lutes.

[Fredward]

Hilarystamp wrote...
and not just mages with changes........I'm sure there is magic out there that would give a warrior or rogue an advantage. In war time( it would make complete sense to see all this.

I would offer up my first born if I could get a rogue with some magical tendencies.

[Hilarystamp]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Hilarystamp wrote...
and not just mages with changes........I'm sure there is magic out there that would give a warrior or rogue an advantage. In war time( it would make complete sense to see all this.

I would offer up my first born if I could get a rogue with some magical tendencies.

enough said! 

[Jackums]

Tevinter mages seem to don armor, and are depicted in The World of Thedas with a sword next to them, perhaps implying that some mages wield them.

[Shadow Fox]

KiwiQuiche wrote...

Bfler wrote...

andy69156915 wrote...

Then let's just get rid of classes and just make you into a physical god who can do everything and anything. Much more hardcore and fun, right?

Skyrim? 

Well, they added the Ebony Warrior for that.

And you're not a physical god, you're a mini dragon.

No but at max level you're pretty close to being one.

[IC-07]

I'd love to be a warlock as well.

[Chiantirose1982]

Hilarystamp wrote...

If they did I would be happier. Right now if an enemy get to close you have to run away like a coward I hate that. If there can be better training with the physical side of a staff it would make playing even more fun.

You don't have to run away, that's what your paralyze runes are for or the sleep spell, or mind blast etc.

No I don't need my Mage to have awesome melee attack, that's what my warriors/rogues are for.

[Ziggeh]

I think classes need distinction. That it's better for gameplay if you're combining extremes.

I'm quite happy to consider "mage" an abstraction (though I appreciate in this setting it does have a defined meaning), and for them to look and feel stereotypically magey. Indeed I find it strange that people would seek realism and naturalistic elements in a game where lobbing a fireball at someone involves a numerical value.

[Lord Raijin]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Mages really need to learn to use their staffs better, like gandalf does.

ROFL!

[Wulfram]

Why should the mage be assumed to possess significant athletic talents to go along with their magical ones?

Modifié par Wulfram, 04 août 2013 - 10:42 .

[Kalas Magnus]

I think leaning to use weapons would actually be a step down for mages. They have more potential than the regular citizen. They can command the elements by simply thinking about it. And they can create auras around themselves for self defense.
If anything the protagonist should be allowed to further develop their magic. Id prefer to summon demons at will or shapeshift into a dragon.
The gameplay holds back the mages too. In cut scenes we see jowan take down an experienced mage, another mage, and templars with one attack. C'mon, we should be able to do that too.

Modifié par Kalas Magnus, 04 août 2013 - 11:54 .

[iOnlySignIn]

Mages need knives. For eating. And other practical purposes. You can't cut the steak in your plate with chain lightning. You'd burn the table cloth.

Everyone should carry knives with them at all times. I for one keep razors and scalpels in my wallet and pockets.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 04 août 2013 - 12:08 .

[Asdrubael Vect]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Mages really need to learn to use their staffs better, like gandalf does.

Even Gendalf use sword or sword and stuff in the same time





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Modifié par Dark Korsar, 04 août 2013 - 12:26 .

[Magdalena11]

I love to play mages and use spells like mind blast and cone of cold if my mage is getting ganged up on and I need to buy time while my spells are in cool-down. One of the most difficult classes for me to get the hang of is the sword and board tank. It's so hard to get out of DPS mindset. I want to lay waste to all those around me and have a tough time doing a different job. My mages tend to be pretty in your face DPSers but I love the crowd control aspects of their AOE spells (not on nightmare.) I have to keep telling myself when I'm playing the tank that my job is to suck up damage that could have been going to the rest of the party, not deal it out. When I'm in healer mode, I need to remember to save my mana for pulling my mates from the brink of death. When I'm a rogue I need to remind myself that sneaking in from the back or sniping from the rear is my job.

DA2 has some great combat animation for mages with staffs flying. Much better than the poke and spurt animation from DAO. I still regard close-up physical combat as more of a last resort than a standard tactic.

[TobiTobsen]

Dark Korsar wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Mages really need to learn to use their staffs better, like gandalf does.

*gif-snip*

Even Gendalf use sword or sword and stuff in the same time

Of course the magical talented charaters in LotR use weapons. When was the last time you saw anybody in that franchise use magic in actual combat?

My Dragon Age mages can burn people with a fireball, crush them with their own bodyweight or pull their blood right out of them. To (mis)quote Obi-Wan Kenobi: "Swords are so uncivilized!"

[LOLandStuff]

Saying you want a sword is just a cover for evil blood magic rituals because staffs only bruise people and you have to hit several times to cause some bleeding while swords cut people easily and make them bleed faster.
I can see through your deception. I'm not easily fooled, you bunch of nasty demon worshipers.

[Boycott Bioware]

Mages are human (or Elf and Qunari) who born with magical ability, no reason why they can't be something like any other peoples with no magic. Having magic doesn't prevent you becoming what you wanted, in fact you can be more, you are the higher being, not like those underdeveloped evolution called human (or Elf and Qunari)

[Chiantirose1982]

Qistina wrote...

Mages are human (or Elf and Qunari) who born with magical ability, no reason why they can't be something like any other peoples with no magic. Having magic doesn't prevent you becoming what you wanted, in fact you can be more, you are the higher being, not like those underdeveloped evolution called human (or Elf and Qunari)

Then what's the point of having other classes if Mage can do it all? Why don't they throw in a unlock spell as well and no one needs to play rogue anymore either.

[LorDC]

I don't understand what the thread is about. Mages with blades? DAO had arcane warriors. Why don't we see many such mages? Because of the balancing issues. Lore reason is that templars prohibit mages to train in martial arts.