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[Steelcan]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Barquiel has a fair point. I've seen people complain about the length of those chats with Liara, citing video... where the player clicks the top of the wheel every single time. Those conversations can be cut short by picking the option at the bottom.

Paragon and renegade need to go, if only to encourage people to think for themselves again.

But that's like your opinion man

[MassivelyEffective0730]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Barquiel has a fair point. I've seen people complain about the length of those chats with Liara, citing video... where the player clicks the top of the wheel every single time. Those conversations can be cut short by picking the option at the bottom.

Paragon and renegade need to go, if only to encourage people to think for themselves again.

Indeed. I'm ok with the idea of a morality system, but really, it just means the 'good' decisions get off scot-free while the 'mean' decisions shoot yourself in the foot.

[Barquiel]

I think the only problem with the morality system is that it rewards/punishes players by affecting Shepard's persuasion ability (especially in ME2). Persuasion should be a skill that needs to be invested in like any other skill imo.

[rekn2]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

iakus wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Nobody here can tell you who your Shepard is.

Bioware can, or think they can

But for the purposes of OP's question, yeah, pick whatever feels right.  I have no problem romancing Ash even after Horizon and such.  TIM's manipulating events, trying to keep the two apart.  but the trth will come out!

Ditto to the first point.

Miranda is my one and only choice, for the reasons here.

Ashley turned her back on Shepard and everything he stood for simply because he wasn't wearing the same jersey of her beloved alliance. She's too narrow-minded to be suitable. Ashley in my opinion represents the worst of humanity.

I disagree completely with the OP's assertions on characters, but remind him that it's your Shepard. Do whatever you want with him.

cerberus is a terrorist orginaization...

[rekn2]

Barquiel wrote...

Necanor wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...

WittingEight65 wrote...

Aren't Liara and Garrus the most popular squadmates?

I'd too give more content to the most popular squadmates, is the most logical thing to do.

Yes.

Bioware released statistics in March:

Liara and Garrus came in at 24%

Tali was a lowly 7.8%

The official stats are a joke, they shouldn't be used for reference. They include 1 playthrough from player A and 10 playthroughs from player B. Check every poll, every survey from 3rd party sites and you'll find completely different results.

Not really. The Mass Effect universe survey (I linked) was the the most comprehensive and largest sample size we had before Bioware released the PAX statistics...and the result was very similar. Liara and Garrus were by far the most used/popular squadmates.

And most players do not join BSN or take part in forums. Most players just buy the game and play it. Bioware's statistics are definitely more accurate than some BSN poll (with 100-200 participants).

the pax stats are horrible and any statistic analyst would agree. theres way to many "default" options like being male, being soldier, different characters coming in at different times in the story...etc etc.

[DeinonSlayer]

StreetMagic wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Varric and Alistair sort of play the potential "bro" parts in DA, but you can easily relegate those relationships to something else. You're not forced into bro mode.

Sten, Zevran, and Loghain were all definitely better bros to my Warden than Alistair ever was.

Hooray for variety.

The DA writers are still steeped in the RPG tradition. That's why it's better. Walters thinks he's writing a movie script or a comic book.

Didn't he start out writing comic books?

[o Ventus]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Didn't he start out writing comic books?

That he did. He also writes the ME comics.

[o Ventus]

David7204 wrote...

Good writers don't take great characters and put them at the center of the story.

They put characters at the center of the story and make them great.

Hence Liara, Garrus, and Tali being overwhelmingly the most popular love interests.

In exactly what way are Garrus and Tali "at the center of the story"?

[MassivelyEffective0730]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Varric and Alistair sort of play the potential "bro" parts in DA, but you can easily relegate those relationships to something else. You're not forced into bro mode.

Sten, Zevran, and Loghain were all definitely better bros to my Warden than Alistair ever was.

Hooray for variety.

The DA writers are still steeped in the RPG tradition. That's why it's better. Walters thinks he's writing a movie script or a comic book.

Didn't he start out writing comic books?

Yeah. He was an out of work comic book writer when Casey got him a job at BW.

Personally, I think Mass Effect is my game, but as far as overall writing for the narrative goes, I'm going to have to say that Dragon Age wins. The narrative is much better written and the creators are much more open and varied with what they do.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

rekn2 wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

iakus wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Nobody here can tell you who your Shepard is.

Bioware can, or think they can

But for the purposes of OP's question, yeah, pick whatever feels right.  I have no problem romancing Ash even after Horizon and such.  TIM's manipulating events, trying to keep the two apart.  but the trth will come out!

Ditto to the first point.

Miranda is my one and only choice, for the reasons here.

Ashley turned her back on Shepard and everything he stood for simply because he wasn't wearing the same jersey of her beloved alliance. She's too narrow-minded to be suitable. Ashley in my opinion represents the worst of humanity.

I disagree completely with the OP's assertions on characters, but remind him that it's your Shepard. Do whatever you want with him.

cerberus is a terrorist orginaization...

Not this argument again... Here's my Pro-Cerberus argument for you to enjoy

They're classified as a terrorsist organization, though I personally think they're more of a shadow organization that takes care of humanities dirty laundry. They're also the only people in the galaxy smart enough to realize the threat and willing to stand up against the Reapers. That's why I and my Shepard support them far more than the incompetent and impotent alliance.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 07 août 2013 - 02:08 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

StreetMagic wrote...

Don't get me wrong. I think Walters has come up with great ideas (after all, his cinematic "sensibilities" if you will, largely came up with Illusive Man, Zaeed, Miranda, Aria). I just don't think he fits the RPG writer mold. I think it worked better with Drew and the other writers keeping everyone in check. Having a guy like that leading an RPG franchise sucks though. He tries to write it like any other game.

He doesn't fit the RPG mold. He's a character writer. He's pretty much stated that he wants games to be more cinematic - which basically means less player agency in the game (at least according to BW). It's a disappointing trend that BW is making to try and make games that are more 'their story' rather than providing the fans the ability to make their own variations of the story. 

If I remember right, Walters' first game was Jade Empire.

[wolfhowwl]

Is he the guy that is obsessed with Cerberus?

I heard the new ME comics have Cerberus help building Arcturus Station with child slaves.

Modifié par wolfhowwl, 07 août 2013 - 04:19 .

[Sir DeLoria]

wolfhowwl wrote...

Is he the guy that is obsessed with Cerberus?

I heard the new ME comics have Cerberus help building Arcturus Station with child slaves.

Cerberus tried to sabotage the Flotilla, so they're bad in my book. However, they do have Martin Sheen:huh:

[wolfhowwl]

Necanor wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...

Is he the guy that is obsessed with Cerberus?

I heard the new ME comics have Cerberus help building Arcturus Station with child slaves.

Cerberus tried to sabotage the Flotilla, so they're bad in my book. However, they do have Martin Sheen:huh:

He did it for humanity! Just where do your loyalties lie?

StreetMagic wrote...
Cerberus
is cool imo, but I think he's responsible for them being front and
center in the last games. Drew's original ME2 story had Shep getting
spaced, and waking up on a Geth ship. That's where Legion came in
originally. No Cerberus.

The Cerberus plot went badly off the rails in ME3. It was one thing that they became an enemy, it was another that they spawn armies and fleets (I think the Omega DLC even showed a Cerberus Dreadnought, LOL!) and just started causing senseless mayhem that didn't really further any agenda other than providing something other than reapers for us to shoot at.

Modifié par wolfhowwl, 07 août 2013 - 04:41 .

[Sir DeLoria]

wolfhowwl wrote...

Necanor wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...
Is he the guy that is obsessed with Cerberus?

I heard the new ME comics have Cerberus help building Arcturus Station with child slaves.

Cerberus tried to sabotage the Flotilla, so they're bad in my book. However, they do have Martin Sheen:huh:

He did it for humanity! Just where do your loyalties lie?

If you mean the humanity in ME, then not with them. I'd probably sacrifice the rest of the galaxy for the Quarians.