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[Sir DeLoria]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

No. The level of fail is just... no.

It wouldn't be called North Africa if it was part of the Middle East. Speaking as a geography expert, a political scientist, and as a veteran of OEF, no part of Africa is part of the Middle East or vice Versa.

These are two completely separate continents. The Middle East is in Asia. 

North Africa is in... Africa.

Egypt is officially part of the Middle East, while being on the continent of Africa.

[o Ventus]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

 no part of Africa is part of the Middle East or vice Versa.

... Except for Egypt.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Necanor wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Necanor wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Necanor wrote...
Humanity is way too mainstream and overrated in ME.

I always loved the Quarians, from their Middle Eastern nomad(Tuareg) theme to their awesome accents.

The Tuareg live in west Africa.  Try again

Yes, I know. They mainly live in North Africa between Algeria and Egypt(at least a part of the ethnic group). It's just simpler to call them Middle Eastern, since most people have never heard of them. Anyway, your point is rather irrelevant to my comment.

Are you familiar with the middle east?

Yes, I have spent quite some time in Egypt and Iran.

Funny, last time I was in Egypt, it was part of Africa. To the best of my very extensive knowledge, it still is in Africa.

And Iran is not in the Middle East. It's in Western Asia, or Persia as it used to be called. 

[Sir DeLoria]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...

And with good reason in some cases.

Very much so. I think the same applies to the Quarians. They go into settled star systems and strip mine planets that don't belong to them. I'm fine with helping them out, but they don't really get to just show up and take what they want or need. 

What else can they do? They have to survive somehow and no one wants to help them.

[What a Succulent Ass]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

No. The level of fail is just... no.

I don't even. 

- Kel Tamasheq are indigenous Africans
- Most are concentrated in West Africa, not Tamazgha (grey areas like Azawad notwithstanding)
- No part of Africa is in "the Middle East"
- Because Africa is Africa

I'm assuming what he's getting at is that North African states might as well be in the West Asia because the vast majority are a part of the Arab League (does this mean Somalia is also in West Asia?). Failing the geography check, though, it bears mentioning that not all West Asians are Arabic, not all Arab descendents are West Asian nationals, and Arab presence in Africa is the result of centuries of brutal colonisation. They are not indigenous.  

[o Ventus]

Wikipedia wrote...

The Middle East is a region that roughly encompasses a majority of Western Asia (excluding the Caucasus) and Egypt. The term is considered to be Eurocentric and used as a synonym for Near East, in opposition to Far East. The corresponding adjective is Middle-Eastern and the derived noun is Middle-Easterner. The largest ethnic group in the Middle East are Arabs, with Turks, Turkomans, Persians, Kurds, Azeris, Copts, Jews, Maronites, Assyro-Chaldeans, Circassians, Somalis, Armenians, Druze and numerous additional minor ethnic groups forming other significant populations.

Also, Cairo (Egypt) is listed as the 2nd largest city in the middle east.

Can we get back on topic, please?

[MassivelyEffective0730]

o Ventus wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

 no part of Africa is part of the Middle East or vice Versa.

... Except for Egypt.

Egypt is not in the Middle East beyond the Sinai landbridge. It's not politically considered to be a part of the Middle East however. It has power in the Middle East and it is a major Arab state, but it isn't defined as Middle Eastern, since only two of 27 governates in Egypt are a part of Asia.

[Zazzerka]

StreetMagic wrote...

Back to Liara bashing, I guess?

The topic was Liara bashing when I left the thread last night.

Have you people ever had enough?

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Necanor wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...

And with good reason in some cases.

Very much so. I think the same applies to the Quarians. They go into settled star systems and strip mine planets that don't belong to them. I'm fine with helping them out, but they don't really get to just show up and take what they want or need. 

What else can they do? They have to survive somehow and no one wants to help them.

They survive, or they die. If they try to take my resources, I will shoot at them. If they shoot back, the Council will come running. 

I don't care about their fate one way or another. I do think their ships are rather useful against the Reapers, but to be honest, that's about as far as my opinion of them goes. I'm rather apathetic to them.

[wolfhowwl]

StreetMagic wrote...

o Ventus wrote...
Can we get back on topic, please?

I don't know. It's kind of interesting. I don't know a lot about Africa.

Back to Liara bashing, I guess?

Do you think they were pushing a certain love interest in the Genesis comic?

[Steelcan]

Zazzerka wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Back to Liara bashing, I guess?

The topic was Liara bashing when I left the thread last night.

Have you people ever had enough?

Never:devil:

[o Ventus]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

They go into settled star systems and strip mine planets that don't belong to them.

Sounds like what Shepard does.

I don't think we're to take a gameplay mechanic as accurate to the lore.

Unless you also think that biotics work by tossing out a DBZ-esque ki blast.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

They go into settled star systems and strip mine planets that don't belong to them.

Sounds like what Shepard does.

One starship.

Versus 50,000 starships and an entire race.

I'll concede that point though.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 07 août 2013 - 05:50 .

[o Ventus]

StreetMagic wrote...

Yeah, seemed like it. Something about Shepard having an apprecitation for Asari and Kaidan/Ash getting jealous.

The other romances (besides the VS/Liara) really get the shaft though.

Shepard's voice-over also says something to the effect of "... as brilliant as she is beautiful", in context to Liara.

It isn't as bad as the Genesis 2 romances. As far as I can tell, you don't even get a full "choice" in those. The comic picks 2 romanceable characters and you choose between those 2, from what I can tell. The firs tYouTube video I saw had Miranda and Jack. The second one had Jack and Tali.

Modifié par o Ventus, 07 août 2013 - 05:53 .

[Mr.House]

wolfhowwl wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

o Ventus wrote...
Can we get back on topic, please?

I don't know. It's kind of interesting. I don't know a lot about Africa.

Back to Liara bashing, I guess?

Do you think they were pushing a certain love interest in the Genesis comic?

That comic was garbage that turns all the characters OOC, and has horrible art.

[Steelcan]

she doesn't

[wolfhowwl]

I'm glad newcomers were exposed to the Udina fist clench. This is an outrage!

[TheWerdna]

That comic raised a lot of questions...

Like, why does Tali appear wearing her ME2-ME3 suit when its supposed to be ME1

Or, when did Tali and Garrus ever dual wield pistols in ME1

Or why was Kaidan referred to as being younger than Shepard when hes actually a few years older.