Sacrifice implies real choice and a clearly defined good. HUGE emotional pay off, where? See we were set up to care primarily about Shepard, not the galaxy, and not anyone else. Without Shepard none of that mattered and we cared about it as an extension of Shepard. There is no emotional pay off unless you believe the cutscenes and slides are the pay off. The slides are well juvenile and meant to make you think you did a really good cool thing but those choices are not good.
Lol, so you speak for everybody when it comes to just how emotional the ending was? People feel different things, like if a baby dog would have gotten ran over in front of me I wouldnt' cry but maybe somebody else would. I felt like the ending was emotional because throughout this long journey of fighting the reapers Shepard has finally accomplished his goal and saved many species in the galaxy along with his crew and himself. That is, if you chose the Destroy Ending.
What gets wrapped up well? What will happen now? What kind of a galaxy did you leave behind? Nothing in the description of those choices rings as authentic or could lead one to conclude everything is just wonderful now or else there would be no supposed morally challening final decision as you put it. The decision would be easy if things worked out well and were wrapped up well. We have no idea just what Shepard did to the galaxy.
What will happen now? I don't know, what will happen in the galaxy after Luke kills Darth Vader? Will another Vader arise? Will everybody be peaceful? Who the hell knows. Almost all endings to great franchises have open-ended endings to allow speculation. Stop acting like Bioware should give you every little detail for every little species. The slidehow showed the Krogan giving birth to new life, the Asari's reforming, London rebuilt, etc.. If the reapers were destroyed what else do you think happened after that? Peace...for the moment.
I see nothing as morally challenging because I won't make one of those repugnant decisions. I won't fate the galaxy to live in what most likely will be a fate worse than death or that will be obtained over the corpses or cares of those who just are in the way. I won't force people to accept the reapers as overseers when they ate several worlds and trillions of people. I won't force people to be augmented by some tech from somewhere to do something first because I have no right to put foreign objects into their bodies and second because I have no freaking knowledge of what it will do or what it is.
Well it's YOUR CHOICE if you want to go down that route or just destroy the Reapers like Shepard intended do do. If you have no idea what will happen if you try to control the reapers or fure with synthesis then why choose those routes? The game gives you 4 choices, each with their on consequence.
And in doing that synthetics somehow get full knowledge of organics--from who? And of what type? Ridiculous. And oh what conflict did this stop anyway? It may have kept synthetics from killing organics but only because organics no longer exist, for now. But EDI's speech about transcending life. That's great with immortal Krogan and Rachni having lots of babies-no problem there, no conflict certainly. Except the galaxy will have to find a place to live due to over-population. But green eyes are cool and now EDI's alive. Only EDI already became alive before and thanked my Shepard for helping her to become so. Great to know that was not true.
Again, if you had no idea what the synthetic approach would do then why choose it? it'll just leave you dissapointed and craving for more. I guess maybe I was one of the few that didn't care about control or synthesizing myself with others, I just wanted to kill the damnr eapers and save my own ass. And the galaxy is infinite, don't say that the Krogan and Rachni will have have over-population because at the point in time they have the ability to build bases and homes on practically any planet with a small desnity of mass.
Revelations may alter the way the trilogy is perceived? This is otherwise known as retconning to make people think the ending written after ME1 and 2 sorta kinda fits with ME1 and 2 or the need to ignore those two minor games in favor of this awesome ending and its story that's disconnected from the prior story. I don't need my perceptions of the story altered at all and this ending certainly does not change anything in the rest of the story or how I perceive any of it. It seems to have been written by someone who had no idea what stories were in the previous games at all and it abandoned them. If the kid existed then ME1's events should never have happened as they did. If the kid existed then Sovereign and Harbinger were liars or idiots, but since the endings turned them into mindless drones I have no idea what they were at all. They clearly wanted us dead but the kid says "unh unh, no they didn't". Yes, they did.
Again, why so much thought into this ghost kid? Who cares what he intended and did not intended to do? I guess I'm hard headed as well, because when Sovereign was giving his speech I just didn't care what his intentions were I just wanted to destroy him for trying to destroy me. Ruthless, one might say.
I'm glad you are happy with what you got. It works for you. I don't think it does any of those things you think it does but if you do, oh well.
Well to each their own.
And I can't take away anything from the acting in the cutscene VOs, but the best was Shepard's in refuse. That was who Shepard was not this idiot that blindly agrees to moronic "logic" based upon the Leviathans and their baby boy.
Then choose the refusal ending. Simple as that.
Yeah uh JamesFaith said people shouldn't be calling others trolls because they like the endings.
But
again you are now saying killing Wrex would have no effect in a war
with gods. What gods? They're mindless drones that Shepard should have
told their daddy (the star kid) to turn the power off for.
Choosing
Wrex should have had more of an efffect on the Krogan support and
ability to rally together and help. People are more than mere cogs in a
wheel and it is often their determination to do smaller good things
that can lead to success at higher levels. The decision on the
Collector base should have mattered to how powerful Cerberus became but
it doesn't even matter at all.
And again, it wasn't fans that
said "hey, our choices will matter." Bioware said this repeatedly and
they used that as a way to claim replayability. If played again a
different way we'd get something else because we made different
choices. Bioware said this is what would happen. They said this
repeatedly. In fact it was used in trailers. Good luck with that.
What effect can Wrex have on the Krogan that a Krogan like Grunt won't have? I always preferred Grunt over Wrex which is why I did my best to keep Grunt alive. Not every little thing will have a big impact in the end. Maybe it will, but at the same time maybe it won't. Again, it all comes down to what you believe in and what you want. Some like Tali, others prefer Legion, some like Jack, others prefer Miranda. Some think Wrex is useless, others think he can have a huge purpose in this universe.
And I guess you guys really examined every little word Bioware said. I didn't to be honest. I just paid attention to the part where they said the game would have different endings depending on what you choose on the end. I can't really see a video game where every little choice you make has an effect on the end. That would mean that Bioware would have had to make about 10 different endings to satisfy everyone or just a plain old boring happy ending. Everybody has their own opinions though and I was satisfied with the EC Destroy ending.
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